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<0> woo, 5pm
<1> ...
<1> 7777777zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
<2> hi
<3> Hi1
<3> s/1/!/
<2> does someone know a site where i can see what javascript features the mac IE has (and maybe the one for windows) ?
<2> so i can be shure my code runs there
<2> search goole: "javascript change css style"
<2> wrong channel ... sry
<4> "toFixed is not a function"
<4> what is this
<5> defbyte: www.quirksmode.org/ has nice charts of which browser supports which features; so does www.webdevout.com
<5> defbyte: btw, mac IE is dead anyway
<2> thank you!
<2> are there also tables for safari ?
<6> using one ssl cert, can i run more than 1 domain off the same server
<7> hi, you guys know of a good system for multi lingual input? i.e a good way to structure the form elements
<8> When you call a company and they put you on hold, they should play Dream Theater - Endless Sacrifice.
<1> Nanobot: genre?
<9> whats the "standard" width for a 800x600 fixed layout?
<10> ciaron, people stopped doing 800X600 layouts
<10> i personally use 750
<10> or 725
<10> there's a peekaboo bug that no one is willing to help me with
<1> majd: I'm not a one
<11> how do i check if a dom element exists, like if (exists(document.getElementById('test')) ... ?
<10> alert(document.getElementById('dddd'))
<10> if it doesn't exist, it'll give you something like 'undefined' or w/e
<11> majd: i'm trying to avoid errors if that element doesn't exists
<10> ah
<10> ummmm
<12> mandric
<11> because i'm doing <body onmousemove="function"
<10> i'm not sure
<12> the if statement is just what you want, without the exists( )
<10> i think it has something to do with typeof
<11> JibberJim: ok
<10> oh yeah
<12> no need for any function at all
<11> JibberJim: i figured that ... will try again
<13> how to make a scroller for layers in dhtml?
<1> ktabet_: layers?
<13> yes
<1> what's a layer?
<14> rofl
<14> its a tag from like 1999
<14> when netscape was like "ooh! new feature! <layer>!"
<1> I know what a layer is
<1> I was wondering if ktabet_ knew
<14> then why'd you ask?
<14> oh
<14> then you should have asked 'do you know what a layer is?' ;)
<14> reisio: note, i think it's also what dreamweaver calls a div
<13> no
<15> lol
<3> `layers
<1> I'm trying to imagine something you know that I don't know, but I just can't
<3> Darn. I keep forgetting what channel I'm in.
<15> hax: good job dreamweaver got there before the rest of the HTML world
<14> GarethAdams: heh
<13> what I want is a custom scroll bar for a div
<14> reisio: should you take this or should i? ;)
<1> ktabet_: oooh :)
<1> ktabet_: http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/slider/slider.html
<1> and you can see kind of a crappy one in action at http://ozones.com/
<14> lol
<14> gj reisio :P
<1> ?
<5> gah
<14> lol
<13> I want the scrollbar to have a custom look, different from the usual
<5> might as well give them a steering wheel instead of a mouse
<1> ...what, am I speaking Greek?
<5> if you can cross post so can I
<14> reisio: nevermind
<5> while you're at it, start showing them videos instead of web pages
<14> ktabet_: maybe just take their information and mail them a brochure
<14> paper's a better medium anyway
<1> bewest: are you talking to anyone in particular? :p
<14> send a dvd with it too
<5> reisio: yes; I was addressing ktabet_
<5> and "them" is users
<1> k...
<1> personally I think scrollbars should be stylable
<1> (easily, via standard CSS)
<5> I'm glad they aren't!
<5> much better usability affordance by having them as monotonous as possible
<1> that's bull**** propaganda you read off someone's website
<5> monotonous meaning always the same, not boring
<1> grow an opinion of your own
<5> certainly not
<5> heh
<5> that's hilarious
<1> or are we being sarcastic?
<5> you mean the royal "we"?
<5> by which you mean you?
<5> I'm perfectly serious
<1> you've never wanted to style a scrollbar?
<5> not after I wised up
<1> after, okay :p
<13> http://www.ghtml.com/showoff/scrollbar/index.html
<13> thats what I want
<1> after you read someone's website :p
<5> no
<1> someone you think is a gebus or something :p
<5> after reading lots of books on usability having nothing to do with websites or scrollbars
<16> How do I get two divs next to each other? One is a fixed width one and the other one is suppose to be "the rest", a google maps-thingy.
<1> my *** :p
<14> and after making lots of mistakes, i agree with bewest
<1> if you really believed that, you wouldn't bother with CSS at all
<1> you'd just use black text on white background
<1> ****ing sheep
<16> I tried makeing them both inline, but that screwd up the googlemaps-div totally :-/
<3> plundra: float the first one left, then margin-left the second one with the width of the first.
<5> reisio: that doesn't make any sense at all
<1> bewest: it makes perfect sense
<1> you can make a website thoroughly unusable by styling things other than scrollbars
<16> riczho: Ah, smart :-) Thanks.
<5> ok
<1> not to mention it will be different even if it is usable
<1> different from other websites
<1> but you want the scrollbars to be the same on all websites?
<1> that's idiotic
<1> it's beside the point, also
<5> doesn't even make any logical sense
<17> well the window scrollbars are a chrome widget that shouldn't be any more stylable than the location toolbar
<1> scrollbars should be easily stylable for the simple reason that people like ktabet_ will do it regardless if the W3C wants you to
<1> Zeros: and what about scrollbars inside the page?
<17> I was about to say that :P
<1> :)
<3> Hmm.. I like the way my scrollbars look enough-- don't want websites to control them, really.
<1> riczho: that's what user CSS is for
<17> I can see a benefit to styling those, especially since you can't color...
<1> or prefs, in normal browsers
<17> control*
<3> Taking it to the other extreme, why not let single websites control the entire screen, then?
<17> what happens when you have a grey website and the person is using a grey theme in the OS
<17> same issue with text color and background color
<16> riczho: Hmm, setting a margin-left resulted in it being the same width, only a bit further out of the screen.
<3> Or the entire browser screen, at least.
<16> (100% as width)
<1> riczho: I'm sure there are people that wouldn't mind that
<3> plundra: Well, why did you set that?
<1> (if only their ****ing scrollbars weren't styled)
<3> reisio: Does that include you?
<16> riczho: I was using it to begin with? (I tried without now and I see that it's totally useless :P)
<1> do I want a website to control my screen? :p no
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