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<0> WebDragon|away: taxonomy via tags
<1> I read the letters, no idea what it means
<2> ie flickr/del.icio.us
<1> sh1mmer: oh, markup
<3> Windrose, Well mainly the ML creator.
<4> sh1mmer: using tags to cl***ify things?
<2> WebDragon|away: not markup
<2> tagging
<0> apparently people aren't using it in enough of a structured way.
<2> ie tagging a picture 'dog'
<1> using tags to cl***ify things = markup
<3> Windrose, One would have to have sandbox it to some degree for security.
<2> because it has a dog in it
<4> webben: mm. That scares me a little.
<0> I hate people who try to reinvent the wheel, but square.
<5> dude, the wheel started square
<0> (n.b I don't hate the people, just their annoying bleeting)
<5> didn't you see that cartoon? :p
<3> Windrose, That's okay. You could use a browser which doesn't download ML definitions.
<3> You might be missing out though :)
<0> omg omg omg omg!
<4> webben: no ... I think I'd miss out if I let a ML designer decide what my physical reality looked like ...
<0> upgrading to FF 2.0 was worth it!
<4> sh1mmer: please ... you are too smart for 'omgs'
<1> hahaha
<0> cmd+sft+s turns style on and off again
<0> Windrose: yeah but I'm in big kid mode I'm so happy
<4> sh1mmer: couldn't you just ... define a key binding for that? ;)
<0> Windrose: I broke firefox somehow and it stopped working
<0> Windrose: i just upgraded and it works again
<4> sh1mmer: opera.com - there's the cure ;)
<0> hehe
<2> i ran opera for about two months and gave up
<2> it crashed more than firefox, its only redeeming quality was being able to recover from said crashes
<5> sh1mmer: was probably an extension incompatibility
<5> sh1mmer: between two extensions
<2> now that firefox 2 is out, even that is lost
<0> reisio: probably
<5> (y'know, two or more)
<1> you might try 9.10, gxti
<2> firefox suits my needs
<5> I used to get that sometimes with web developer and menu editor
<2> i have no complaints
<5> since they had matching shortcuts
<0> i waited a while to upgrade to FF2.0 until 90% of my extensions worked
<2> i have two extensions
<0> I like Opera, i just like FF extensions more
<2> i don't really care if either of htem stop working
<1> firefox used to suit my needs until I saw just exactly how much less ram opera uses for the same # of pages and tabs as firefox
<5> all my main extensions worked right off
<2> i don't know about you people, but i visit web pages, not live in them :|
<4> sh1mmer: damn. All of my extensions worked right away.
<4> ... damn, forgot, I don't need any extensions ;)
<1> and how much bloody faster it launches and quits with all the tabs it still remembers for me
<2> Windrose: exactly
<1> EVEN with all those tabs
<2> they're just usability things
<6> how do you group items in html again?
<2> lol what?
<6> i mean a line around items, with a name
<4> dssd: what sort of items?
<3> sh1mmer, http://www.bloglines.com/public/benjaminhawkeslewis
<6> fields etc.
<2> fieldset?
<6> yea thanks
<2> `html fieldset
<7> Found for HTML 4.01 - fieldset - http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET
<8> sh1mmer: probably some web development extensions
<1> gxti: I got tired of waiting for firefox to open and quit let alone the speed of reloading pages, redraw, and ram usage. Opera blew it out of the water in sheer speed and was way less memory hungry
<2> hm
<0> webben: you have some I don't got
<3> sh1mmer, the Web accessibility category also includes a few random blogs by people with various disabilities, because they oc***ionally mention web accessibility issues
<0> I have some you don't got
<2> i never close firefox, so there's the first condition
<0> we should dance happly in the middle
<0> :D
<2> and i never notice any of hte other problems
<2> plus it's only 10 seconds to start up
<1> dssd: don't forget about the fakeset: http://www.webdragon.net/htmlcss.php#fakeset
<2> it's not like i ever have emergency situations in which i must start the browser now!
<1> dssd: don't use fieldset for grouping things unless you're in an actual <form></form>
<0> when I closed FF 1.5 it was using 1.5gb of virtual memory and 800mb of ram
<3> sh1mmer, That would be cool ... where's your OPML at?
<0> webben: I was going to see if I can get it from newsgator live updated onto my site
<0> sec
<2> currently using... 415 of virtual, 131 resident
<2> and i've had it open all day
<2> ironically, you've spent more time partaking in this discussion than you saved using opera :p
<9> I always find "blogroll" sounds too similar to "bogroll" for comfort
<9> unless the blogroll is two ply
<3> gxti, that's right.
<2> silly brits
<3> gxti, and hence "gossip rag"
<10> what's silly about it?
<10> it's a Roll that's in the Bog?
<2> yeah, but it's not a 'bog' in the US :p
<10> sure it is, I've been in one
<10> :-)
<10> you do **** over in the US to
<10> Even George W.
<2> it's not *called* a bog though
<2> at least i've never heard it called that
<3> hmm bloglines export subscriptions doesn't work in konqueror
<1> gxti: " spent more time partaking in this discussion than you saved using opera" -- I doubt that, considering.
<1> it's been a while since I switched :)
<2> to claim otherwise would be grossly exaggerating any speed differences.
<2> seriously ;p
<1> seriously
<1> it's productivity
<2> ANYWAY
<2> you are all very boring people and i am leaving now *cough*
<1> pages reloaded from cache are faster in opera, even
<1> ;p
<1> it all adds up when it's your job to develop and test this stuff
<2> to be honest, i don't really care what browser i use
<2> if it works, i use it
<1> neither do I.
<2> firefox stopped working, i switched to opera
<11> also you can use the gotflash addon for firefox
<2> opera worked even less, i switched back
<1> I was a very happy firefox user til I found out how much faster opera was
<1> if firefox improves to where it's faster than Opera, I'd switch back happily
<12> Opera... faster? Lies.
<1> not lies
<2> also, opera's bittorrent client is *terrible*
<1> provable fact, at least on my desktop
<4> gxti: ... why not use a standalone one?
<2> i do
<2> happily
<1> I use a standalone bittorrent client
<2> even if it is a bloated piece of ****
<4> gxti: so .... ? ;)
<2> it's still the best one out there ;p
<12> Even if there was a difference in speed (which there isn't, I've tried), opera could never make up for the extensions I use.
<4> ZombieLoffe: there /is/ a difference in speed. On many systems.
<3> ZombieLoffe, What platform? What processor?
<1> ZombieLoffe: there's a palpable difference in speed overall
<12> Not on mine, was my point :P
<4> ZombieLoffe: that does not mean there is a difference for YOU.
<1> gxti: ROFL!!
<4> ZombieLoffe: ah. So you are calling statements lies because they are not about you?
<3> ZombieLoffe, But I agree. Fx extensions rock.
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