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<0> rapidshare.de
<1> nice
<1> ok, sec
<1> hmm
<1> I uploaded it
<1> how do I tell you where to get it?
<0> rapidshare.de
<0> oops
<1> ah I see it
<0> theres a link
<0> yep
<1> http://rapidshare.de/files/29685079/whisper-core-01e.zip.html
<0> oh noes its a virus
<0> lol
<1> Kitar|st: then, put this file in the "plugins" directory: http://rapidshare.de/files/29685115/cl***Textile.php.html
<0> are you giving me wordpress plugins
<0> i an handle that
<0> lol
<0> can
<1> nope
<1> it's a plugin for Whisper, one of my CMSes
<0> it can be any diretory then
<0> lol
<0> do you have any demo lying around
<1> no :(
<0> would have to set up web server again and its 4am
<0> lol
<1> ah
<1> sorry :/ well, it's a decent CMS, so hopefully you'll find it worth the time to try it out :)
<0> is it easy customizable with css templates
<0> or you could customize it :P
<0> does it require sql base
<0> just asking
<1> highly customizable
<1> it's all template-driven
<1> the textile plugin handles html for you, so you can just use simple textile markup
<1> no sql needed
<1> I hate sql
<0> why
<0> you could make way better cms with sql
<0> ehe
<1> see, I think it's way better if it *doesn't* use a DB
<1> it's easier to setup and move around if it's not tied to a DB
<0> well k
<2> there's nothing that says SQL is required to make a CMS :/
<1> coders generally tend to feel that their CMS isn't "real" if it doesn't use a DB, though
<1> I can't explain it
<1> it's some kind of weird mentality
<1> from which I'm happy to abstain
<0> lol
<2> ajnewbold, how does it store content?
<0> and security
<0> ehe
<1> Zeros: files
<2> ah
<2> see there's a big shortcoming to that, you can't query the files (at least not without tons of work)
<1> I wrote one CMS that stored content in the script file itself :)
<1> Zeros: meh, I've written little search engine things that zip through the files looking for content
<1> it's not really tons of work
<1> actually it's like 6 lines of code
<2> I need all users who have a first name that start with 'p' and have the word "foo" in their profile and who visited in the last 2 weeks
<1> and 10 lines if you want nice output with context and everything :)
<2> that's a simple SQL query and its going to be much faster than yours which requires files ;)
<1> well, i won't disagree there
<1> I've just never had a site with more than a few bits of content on it that had more than a couple visitors :)
<2> thats why people use a database, its more flexible, scalable and faster. You are right though, a file is portable anywhere. :)
<1> so I never bothered to learn how to write stuff that scales well, heh
<1> I finally gave up on coding entirely
<1> and gave up on paid webhosting
<0> there are some good cheap webhostings around
<1> http://newbold.googlepages.com/ <-- now I let Google do it
<2> XPath, XML and mapping the files into objects you store in memcache would give you a file based CMS you could query and still scale :)
<2> I agree with you on part of that ajnewbold, I think its a common misconception people have that an application isn't a "real application" unless it uses a database :P
<1> yeah
<1> it's all about the e-penis
<1> "My CMS uses a DB, so my e-penis is larger than yours."
<1> "Oh yeah? Well my CMS uses a more obscrue DB than yours, so MY e-penis is even LARGER."
<3> For a m*** emailing, when I need to have image src linked on my site, I just use a href="http://www.mysite.com/myimag.png"; instead of a href="myimage.png" | is this the 'accepted method'?
<1> Servo888: yep
<3> ok =-)
<2> Servo888, in an email?
<2> most sane email clients won't load images off remote servers
<1> mine won't :)
<1> but I didn't bother to address that issue, since he's obviously already decided to send a m*** email with an img
<3> Zeros, yes email.
<3> Well the folks who did the last m*** email sent the email by attaching all the images to the email.
<3> But that seems like a dumb thing to do...
<1> well, it has its pros and its cons
<1> but really, HTML in an email is a "con" in general :/
<1> I think the most considerate thing to do is to send a plan text message with the relevant message, with a URL to the fancier picture-laden version on your web server
<1> especially since 80% of the time the recipients will only see the text anyway
<0> hey ajne
<0> are you good at driving traffic to the site
<0> :o
<0> ehe
<1> Kitar|st: no
<1> I've never had a popular site
<1> but I'll tell you exactly how to do it
<1> provide unique, engaging content
<1> and do it regularly
<1> give people something that interests them and keeps them wanting more
<1> give people a reason to come back
<1> then they'll link to you, and your popularity will grow
<2> that or give away free money
<2> I hear that works well :)
<4> hah
<5> currently my 'gray is: #868686
<5> i'm looking for a little darker gray
<5> what should i use?
<5> or is there a place i can test this as well
<6> arooni: play with colors at http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex11/yuicolorpicker/index.htm
<7> How exactly would you define a web page?
<7> Does it have to be (x)html?
<6> whatsound: echo '<html><head><title>My Page</title></head><body><h1>This is a web page</h1></body></html>' > index.html
<6> that is in its simplest form
<2> yeah mean whoopsbob
<2> whoopsbob, academically you mean?
<7> Zeros: yeah
<7> I imagine that being served over HTTP is a requirement, but I'm not sure what else
<6> whoopsbob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_page
<2> html is the most common language used for creating websites, but its certainly not the only one. For example flash can be used too
<7> skwashd: Yeah, I looked at that, but that's meant more for casual readers
<6> Zeros: flash is embeeded in a page
<6> he asked about pages ... not sites
<2> there is nothing that says flash must be embedded in a page
<2> www.foobar.com/myWebsite/index.swf ;)
<2> html is the most common language, but its not a requirement. :)
<6> whoopsbob: in 1 line ... a web page is text based document which contains [x]html "tags" which markup the text to allow it to be read by various user agents
<6> that is kinda lame ... but i i got bored thinking about it
<6> i don't have ADH ... **** check that out
<6> :)
<8> is there a way to make an unordered list, that doesn't have the dots in front of each element? <ul> <li> ... <li> ... <li> .... </ul> makes lots of dots
<9> MartianLobster: use CSS styling on your list to make it look as you want.
<10> `css list-style-type
<11> Found for CSS 2 - list-style-type - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html#propdef-list-style-type
<8> ok thanks
<12> you are welcome, sir
<12> YOU ARE WELCOME!
<9> MartianLobster: another handy one: http://alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/
<8> :)
<13> I'm having some problems with some vertical spacing in my css. I've set all the margins to 0px, yet the gap still exists. page is up at www.epigonecomics.com/nsh/index.html
<13> i've set padding to 0, top to 0... i don't know why the gap is there
<6> nater: get it to validate first ... http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epigonecomics.com%2Fnsh%2Findex.html ... http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epigonecomics.com%2Fnsh%2Findex.html
<0> hey nate go to CSS channel
<0> they can also help there
<0> ehe
<13> you're kidding right? those lines it's complaining about is nothing but the filler text
<6> nater: no i am serious ... i treat validator errors as compiler errors ... if it don't compile it don't run
<6> nater: if you are too lazy to validate ... i am too lazy to help
<13> it validates
<6> nater: the CSS doesn't
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