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<0> majd: i don't get it
<0> majd: and why not use a dl?
<1> so <li><div cl***="left"></div><div cl***="middle"></div><div cl***="right"></div></li>
<0> majd: and float them all left?
<1> hax, just set it up like a 3 column layout
<1> the same css
<1> the only difference is that you'r container is an <li> instead of <body>
<0> majd: i know how to do the 3 column with them all floated left, or with the left two floated and margined
<0> majd: are you talking about the floatutorial style?
<0> majd: where you set a width and margins?
<0> majd: you know the one i mean?
<0> where you float left .left, and set width
<0> then float right .right and set width
<1> hax, make one float:left
<0> then set margin-left and margin-right in the middle?
<1> one float:right
<1> one with margins
<1> yeah
<1> see if that works
<0> okay
<0> majd: and wtf am i supposed to do when i have less control buttons
<0> majd: like my top doesnt have a 'move up' button
<0> and my bottom doesnt have a 'move down'
<0> so how am i supposed to keep them aligned?
<2> hmm
<1> hax, huh? give them widths
<1> hax, i'd suggest taking your problem to #css
<1> i am in no way a css guru
<1> i hack my way through life
<1> as a css developer
<3> heh most people done
<3> there arn't many css only jobs out there
<3> done/do*
<1> yeah, browser incompatibilities make it a really really big challenge
<0> majd: hah, ok
<1> hax, another possibility if that doesn't work
<1> make you'r <li> position:relative
<1> and aboslutely position the divs inside it
<0> aren't they already?
<1> hax, no?
<0> majd: what are they then?
<0> oh wait
<0> nevermind
<0> heh
<1> lol
<3> bbl take care all
<0> peace Element43
<4> i've met css consultants before btw.. people that just go around earning money fixing stuff, would drive me mental ^
<1> lol
<0> majd: how do i do that thing where i vetically align something
<0> i think i have to set it to display:table-cell or something/
<1> hax, ****, that's a biggie
<1> let me break out my css hacks book
<5> streaky: Oooooh. that job sounds fun.
<5> streaky: Maybe because I'd probably annoy clients to death.
<0> majd: heh, ok
<4> no it doesn't.. unless ie 6 suddenly didn't exist, disappeared in a puff off smoke - but then there'd be no point having a consulatant.. :p
<4> next time somebody writes an evil winodws worm it should replace ie6 with ie7.. :p
<5> Oh.. I thought you meant a consultant to insult their CSS/improve markup and stuff..
<4> some of that yeah, but it's mainly fixing problems caused by browser inconsistancies, i'd say that's most of the job
<0> streaky: heh
<4> i've spent the last 4 days trying to get a site working in ie 6.. ended up with a big stylesheet just for ie 6 :/
<1> hax, damn...i have to scan it
<1> brb
<0> majd: rofl?
<4> lol
<4> google?
<6> streaky: let's see it
<0> majd: yeah, you don't have to scan, i'll just google harder
<4> somebody at pastebin needs to learn what transactional databases are for
<0> streaky: pastie.caboo.se
<0> much better
<4> thx
<1> hax www.jtaby.com/Untitled.tif
<7> heh, caboo.se
<7> the art of making words out of domains
<0> majd: it opens in quicktime? confusing
<1> hax, i dunno
<1> it opened in preview for me
<0> lol
<0> k, wgetting
<0> then i'll open in preview
<0> heh
<4> http://pastie.caboo.se/4840 - still got some stuff to do yet
<0> streaky: sure it's all clean at first...
<8> could 'templates' also be called 'views'?
<0> majd: lol @ 12mb
<0> seb-: umm, sure
<1> hax, it's 12mb big?
<4> seb-, at a strech?
<0> majd: yeah, you're supposed to save as a jpeg
<0> lol
<9> seb-, sure
<1> oh damn
<0> or even a pdf
<1> my bad
<0> or something
<0> majd: i'm getting it anyway, i don't care
<9> or rather, templates can SERVE as views
<0> just gonna take a minute
<9> but isn't automatically
<2> ooh
<2> ipv6
<8> hax, streaky, _W_: good...people talk about model-view-controller....hence not sure why they call 'em templates instead of views! ;)
<9> because MVC applies to things like GUI apps as well
<9> where you don't have a template, but a window
<9> or control
<0> seb-: also a template is not necessarily a view
<0> although it likely is if you're usinv mc
<0> using mvc
<4> lol, 'people' are obsessed with making up silly terms for simple stuff.. plus model-view-controller sounds more like a template parsing egnine rather than the template itself, imo
<0> mvc isnt silly
<0> or people
<0> or new
<0> its from like the 70s and smalltalk
<2> my legs hurt
<4> i never said it was silly, i said it was a silly term :)
<2> just thought I'd share
<4> lol - http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2006/06/25/fjax
<0> streaky: well, its not really... because there's models... views... and controllers...
<4> just admit that it's a silly term ;)
<9> MVC is a way to organize your code
<9> and as a term, it's no more silly than most TLA
<4> i agree, but doesn't stop it being 'one of many' :)
<0> majd: do you know how to run things like Preview from the cli?
<1> cli?
<0> command line interface
<0> the shell
<0> bash
<0> you knwo
<0> :)
<1> terminal
<1> oh
<1> umm no
<1> why?
<0> just wondering
<0> majd: oh man, this is complicated
<0> heh
<0> talk about a hack
<1> lol
<0> oh wait
<0> i know why
<0> this isnt the one i meant
<0> i know this one too
<0> damn, this is a mess
<0> majd: http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html
<0> i think thats the one i meant
<0> but... this is still a mess
<1> haha
<0> i'm going to see if i can find another way to express this
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