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<0> webben: it's not explicitly addressed, because no one would know how to *not* serve it as text/html
<0> reisio: i mean, do you think what i wrote is okay?
<1> hax: What do you mean no one would know?
<1> hax: Does the book ever give the XHTML samples a file extension?
<0> webben: he saves the files as .html, and if you put foo.html on any web server, it's serving it up as text/html
<0> ^^
<1> hax: ah, that's *normally* true yes; although you can configure it otherwise
<2> What to say, hax. Some servers are broken.
<0> webben: well, obviously
<0> Windrose: ?
<3> hello, i have a iframe that has the navicationg bar in it, question is.. how can i display a page from a link, on the main page under the iframe ?
<0> alpha: have you recently authored a textbook by any chance?
<0> webben: so... you see what i wrote... what should i do?
<3> hax: err, no, why ?
<0> webben: i mean, the other approach would be to incorrectly summarize everything, which I did before, but it's so awkward
<0> alpha: heh, nevermind :P
<1> hax: what do you mean "incorrectly"?
<1> hax: if your ***ignment is to summarize
<0> webben: well, to summarize things correctly, but have the facts in the summary be incorrect
<1> i think you should summarize
<1> and correct
<0> webben: maybe you're right
<0> webben: here's what i wrote for the last one (already posted):
<1> hax: also, i think you should back up your thing about mime types
<1> with reference to the relevant RFC
<1> and perhaps a quick reference to the apache documentation
<0> webben: http://pastie.caboo.se/13284
<3> so anyone has any ideea ?
<0> webben: i tried this for the last one, and to summarize and correct... but it was a much much shorter chapter, where i could do that
<1> hax: with this ***ignment, is there a word limit or minimum?
<0> webben: it's very non-descript, it's an online cl***, and she's trying to promote 'discussion'
<0> webben: like in paragraph 3 there, i could go off on a 10 page rant about the ideals of a semantic web
<1> hax: here's what i'd do for what it's worth
<0> but that's totally inappropriate, so i just made a note of it and moved on
<1> hax: 1) decide how much to write
<4> hax: yeah it's fine
<4> in cases such as this they don't care so much how you do it as much as that you do it
<4> is this high school or college?
<1> 2) structure your corrections to summarize as you go
<0> reisio: college
<4> and it's like a trivial factor in your final grade, right?
<4> it's fine
<0> reisio: it's a whole online cl***, and i've got like probably 20 more of these ***ignments until the book is finished
<4> online cl***es :/
<1> do the ***ignments contribute to the grade?
<4> harder to effectively yell at people
<0> reisio: it's a real cl***,t his one just happens to be online
<0> reisio: like i'm not getting an 'online deree'
<0> *degree
<0> its from a real university with a real campus :P
<0> webben: yes
<1> hax: yeah, in that case make sure you summarize
<1> hax: but you don't have to do so at length
<0> webben: hmm, ok
<4> yeah I know
<1> you sometimes see academic reviews like that
<1> that will go through an argument and explain why it's bunk
<4> but you can't walk up to the instructor's face and say "you're a ****ing idiot" and have him take it seriously
<0> webben: this isn't really due until monday, maybe i should post this... and see if i get replies?
<0> reisio: she didn't write the book
<0> reisio: the dude who wrote the book doesn't have a clue
<4> so?
<0> reisio: i have no idea if she has a clue or not
<0> but i'm guessing not
<4> she's apparently "teaching" a cl*** that uses this book as an authority?
<0> indeed
<1> hax: I don't know. I've never been involved in this sort of cl***; and i imagine the group dynamics and conventions differ from cl*** to cl*** anyway.
<4> that's pretty shameful imo
<0> webben: yeah
<4> but everybody else does it
<4> so :/
<0> webben: well, maybe i'll post this, and then see if i get any reply... and if i don't... i'll just post a brief summary?
<1> It's very difficult for me to say. My background was a humanities degree, where you're *expected* to criticize the text - even if it is by your teacher.
<5> hax, php is embedded in XHTML, but interpretted before it's output to the
<5> browser. it's similar to javascript.
<0> yeah
<5> I think thats a weird ***ertion
<0> Zeros: yeah, i know
<1> hax: I would probably tone it down a little to be on the safe side.
<1> hax: sound a little bit less bewildered/outraged; and be more matter-of-fact
<0> webben: yeah, I'm trying to figure out a way to do that
<0> webben: you hit the nail on the head with 'bewlidered' and 'outraged' though
<0> heh
<0> how about that, i must be an effective writer :)
<5> hax, the book really relates php to JS?
<0> Zeros: yup
<1> hax: I know. But you only need one understated sentence to express that.
<5> hax, wow, thats um... yeah :)
<1> (for diplomacy's sake)
<1> It says "online discussions" ... presumably that does involve some element of criticism?
<0> "PHP code is embedded in XHTML documents, as is the case with JavaScript."
<0> Zeros: ^^
<1> What else do you guys "discuss"?
<0> Zeros: "PHP is similar to JavaScript, both in terms of syntatic appearance in terms of the dynamic nature of its strings an d arrays."
<0> webben: the taped lecture
<1> hold on guys
<0> webben: and presumably projects at some point
<0> webben: i haven't listened to the lecture yet
<0> Zeros: *and
<0> Zeros: i'm *so* frustrated, and i'm supposed to summarize this stuff
<1> in fairness to the author
<1> "PHP is a widely-used general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for Web development and can be embedded into HTML."
<1> that's from the PHP site
<1> http://www.php.net/
<0> i know
<2> hax: PHP isn't similar to Javascript?
<1> "What is PHP".
<0> Windrose: very no
<2> hax: both belong, syntactically, to the C family. So what exactly is your objection?
<6> Hi Windrose, webben, hax
<2> One have, the other haven't, dynamic strings and arrays?
<0> Windrose: ECMAscript is distinctly different from a hack on C
<0> Windrose: it's just not a good comparison
<1> Windrose: the problem is that the "embedding" is radically different in the case of PHP and JavaScript
<2> hax: not syntactically, no.
<0> Windrose: well, that's what it says
<0> Windrose: it's just fluff the author wrote cause he doesn't know what he's talking about
<0> no one with a point to make would express that
<2> hax: so what's the problem? They ARE syntactically alike.
<5> hax, in the embedding sense I can see the relation, your statement however mixes two ideas.
<0> Windrose: well, then so is perl and ruby and python and and and
<5> "interpretted before it's output to the
<5> browser. it's similar to javascript."
<1> Windrose: That's not what the author expresses anyhow.
<7> a language is a big more than syntax these days
<2> hax: yes. So WHAT are you critizing?
<1> Windrose: The author is talking about the embedding.
<0> Windrose: if i say "i'm just like windrose"... yes we're both people
<0> Windrose: but i don't think it's a comparison that helps anything
<2> hax: ah, you think the actual /writing/ is poor -tho technically correct?
<5> hax, correctly it'd be: "php is embedded in (X)HTML, similar to Javascript. However php is interpreted before its sent to the browser"
<0> Windrose: yes
<0> Windrose: although the writing is often technically wrong, like saying we should use the XHTML1.1 doctype
<8> I have created a page that is contained in a 750px div. All other elements are contained within that div. I want to take the whole div and center align it without all the text/images of each child element being center aligned. How would I achieve this? I am ***uming some auto margins of sorts am I on the right track?
<0> Windrose: which contributes to a larger, more incorrect work
<0> Zeros: indeed
<5> MasterABD, mydiv { margin: 0 auto; }
<1> The problem is that "embedded" needs clarification.
<5> s/mydiv/#mydiv/
<5> webben, in the sense of programming languages, its using one language within another. Seems perfectly valid. If they were talking about hardware and then went into a rant about embedding php that'd be a different matter.
<1> Zeros: That's not right either.
<5> how so?
<0> webben: http://pastie.caboo.se/13287
<0> webben: better?
<0> webben: really, what i need help with is just being tactful and acceptable... because i know i'm supposed to summarize something and give my opinions on it, and generally 'contribute'... but the information is totally wrong, and i've never physically met any of the involved parties
<0> webben: s/but maybe it doesnt matter to anyone else//
<0> webben: other than that... okay?
<5> webben, Merriam Webster: "to make something an integral part of <the prejudices embedded in our language> "
<8> ty for that
<1> Zeros: A PHP file does not use PHP "within" (X)HTML, whereas JavaScript can be used with (X)HTML in a <script>.
<1> Zeros: A PHP file is not conformant XHTML.
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