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<0> Not really.
<0> planning my 18th is like a nightmare :P
<1> Dorward: Of course. It just makes sense that way
<1> The next version of Windows will have little handles in the bottom left and bottom right where you can grab with your mouse and manually turn over the page to go back and forth. That way they can get rid of the back/forward buttons and save space for another big clock
<2> _hp_: around?
<3> _hp_: around?!
<2> reisio:
<3> Dr-Linux:
<2> reisio: i'm looking for hosting
<3> neat
<2> my hosting is going to end this month for www.networks.pk
<3> bummer
<2> bummber?
<3> bummer
<3> it means "awe, that ****s"
<2> i see
<2> i learnt new eng word
<4> anyone got I.E. 5.5 or lower?
<3> kostodo_: annoying...
<5> does microsoft smarttags still exist or its killed? just curious re seeing it on one html faq site
<3> good question
<3> I used to know :/
<3> I think they killed it
<3> doesn't really matter either way
<3> if people want their GUI to be infested with evil, it's their GUI, let them have it how they like
<2> who's selling cheap hosting here?
<6> Dr-Linux: Nobody. Advertising isn't allowed in channel. :)
<2> Dorward: ohh ok
<5> reisio..hm ok because I noted this from the faq somewhere: <meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="TRUE">
<5> kinda makes me wonder how many things are in IE thats really useless :p
<7> can anyone check tvrock.com.au and tell me how there managine to integreate flash and php so nicely?
<3> loki11: brainpowah!
<7> thats not an answer at all :(
<3> sure it is :p
<3> what's the mystery?
<7> well
<7> you click a flash link, and it changes a php page without visibly changing
<7> i dont know how to make my flash naviagtion do that
<3> javascript
<7> could you clarify more?
<3> loki11: javascript! :p
<3> client-side scripting to dynamically alter content
<7> i know what javascript is
<7> but how is it being used to change a php page without any noticable reloading
<6> "without any noticable reloading" is code for "making things overly complex while breaking the back button"
<5> hmm reisio good question for you but .. why the HELL do some sites have to keep opening external links into their own frame? you know the one where the site has its own small banner near top of page (and usually with a "close frame" link or the so) then displays the supposed linked site below?
<5> whats the point of them at all? >:-|
<7> maybe, some people believe the back button should never be used, i dont actually care, i just want to know how it is managed
<6> ... the back button should never be used?! What sort of insane idea is that?!
<7> its not insane...
<8> It is indeed.
<5> I agree with dorward&windrose
<7> Not at all.
<7> a good site would have an easy naviagtion that you could reach a page in one click instead of several clicks back
<5> loki11 thats like saying "ok you went to a deeper page on our site, you can NOT go back to the main page now"
<7> its not like saying that at all
<5> better to leave the navigation (AND mouse menu) alone to the user to use whenever they want
<8> loki11: that is /quite/ different from "should never"
<7> reisio, any idea, more specifically, how that site does what it does..what would the code be doing?
<7> Windrose, by should never i mean ideally never
<8> loki11: ideally a user navigate back WITH the back button.
<7> no, saying that shows a lack of understanding of good design
<3> loki11: you can view the code yourself and see
<8> loki11: oddly enough, I quite agree, tho in reverse.
<9> http://www.canadiantire.ca/backincl***/
<9> check out this taht site
<9> that*
<10> how do I find out the size of the document part of the browser in JS?
<11> Hello
<3> 'lo sun
<11> Excuse me for the silly problem but i fail to submit a form to an iframe
<3> canadiantire is a strange name
<11> strange indeed
<3> I thought it would be a tire company
<3> but apparently it's like a Canadialand amazon.com
<9> i don't know is the site of the week of a flash site
<3> according to?
<11> reisio - can you help me with my frames problem please?
<6> SunShineLady: All you've said is that you failed. You didn't show us what you tried.
<6> SunShineLady: So its rather difficult to see where you went wrong. (Beyond using frames in the first place, of course)
<11> <form target="moo" action="www.google.com" method="post"> <iframe name="moo"></iframe>
<6> SunShineLady: Yes, that should work.
<11> I know it should :\
<5> hm..is this valid? <link rel="shortcut icon" href="myicon.ico">
<5> not sure since it doesn't seem to be in html 3.2 but some sites mention it
<3> black_Nightmare: http://validator.w3.org/
<6> black_Nightmare: Umm. Don't use HTML 3.2 then! Its obsolete.
<3> black_Nightmare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon#Standardization
<3> swimrr: damn, that's a good idea...
<3> I might have to drive down to starbuckaroos
<5> ah...thanks a lot reisio...fixed
<12> can you get me one and send it via the holodeck?
<3> swimrr: sure
<3> gonna be a while before I go, though
<3> I'm such a consumer whore lately :)
<3> it feels good
<5> hm damn..I never thought to check html tags right on wikipedia..meh....brb for reading
<12> whores rule
<13> I'd like to be able to move a <li> from one list to another via JS -- Is this possible?
<6> frankg: removeChild, appendChild
<14> just appendChild - that will remove it if it already exists in the dom tree
<13> good stuff !
<12> my laptop fan keeps cycling on and off every 10 seconds - does anyone have any thoughts?
<9> where I can find information about budgets
<9> for a big website
<3> ...
<3> where's that 'help vampire' link :p
<9> ?
<15> AHHH VAMPIRES!
<9> where I can find information about budgets?
<9> please help :s
<3> here it is :) http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires
<7> reisio, i cant read the code, it leads no where
<3> loki11: nonsense
<7> have you had a look at the code?
<3> no
<7> well you cant
<7> that site isnt as simple as you think it is
<3> of course you can
<7> or i wouldnt be asking about it
<16> I see microsoft have copied google in making their search page source horrible
<16> at least they don't use tables
<3> really?
<3> I thought search.msn.com had perfectly clean source
<16> www.live.com
<3> never heard of it
<16> it's all new
<3> http://search.msn.com/'s is nice, iirc
<3> the code, I mean
<3> (compared to google's / not saying much)
<16> search.msn.com actually validates!
<3> yeah go figure why they have one that is good and one that is crap
<3> head's not talking to the tail
<7> reisio, please try and look at the code if you have time, you will see it is obfuscated
<3> I didn't say it'd be easy
<12> what is ICQ?
<6> swimrr: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ICQ
<12> Dorward: I konw where it is on the web - is it a chat client like irc?
<6> swimrr: More like MSN
<12> ah
<12> so it had cam technology, etc
<6> No idea, I gave up on it about five years ago. Try its website, it will probably have a features list.
<12> I come here because all the smart people are here, but why do you all use irc instead of icq, msn, etc?
<14> legacy reasons ;)
<6> swimrr: Because IRC is about communities, while MSN et al are about indivduals
<14> and who's to say we're using IRC *instead* of the others?
<12> LOL
<12> ahah
<6> Indeed. I use MSN to chat with mates. I use IRC to chat about #topics.
<6> And on the subject of mates ...
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