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<0> reisio, www.0xDEAD.com/0xDEAD/Special:Tag:view
<1> 1min browser just crashed :/ :p
<1> element43: okay, you?
<2> i'm doing good.
<1> Noia: for the text map thing?
<0> reisio, the tagsoup :)
<1> yeah :)
<0> I'd like it to space out so that it triest to take up as much space as possible
<0> but...its not co-operating
<2> rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVMf41A6WW8&eurl=
<0> element43, yea, I got that on my blog :PO
<1> Noia: I think all you need is a width
<0> reisio, what do you mean?
<1> a width, for .tagBox
<3> Guys, I have a question. Look at http://www.3dn.nl/tt/test.php. Links in the top flash are linked to a PHP script that generates output in the middle column. If you click on the links several times, the middle column shifts over to the left. You couldn't make that effect if you tried to but I want it GONE. Please help coz I've been staring at this for a while now.
<0> reisio, I added the width (688px) and its not made a difference =\
<1> fredl: neato :p
<1> fredl: while we're at it, '<!-- test.php: Some javascript plus inclusion of top.html -->' will cause problems in IE
<1> fredl: don't misuse tables for layout http://hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html
<1> fredl: how to properly embed Flash: http://reisio.com/examples/flash/
<3> reisio - yeah I know about the tables, I got these tables as legacy
<3> you mean the HTML comments cause probs in IE? no prob, I'll just take them out then
<2> so yeah Day 4 of my php job... php is pretty neat
<1> fredl: just having anything before the doctype
<3> oh okay, that makes sense.
<3> tnx
<1> fredl: see if using that Flash code helps
<3> hang on, trying somebody else's suggestion first.
<1> element43: nice :p
<1> hrmm, YouTube changed their player appearance
<2> yeah i work from home too =D
<4> is there anyway w/ javascript to access styles in my stylesheets? to get colors, etc?
<2> yes
<1> looks really goofy now, actually :p
<1> big silly circle
<2> jonas22 yes it is possible, but a better solution would be to access the dom instead
<4> the style i want to access isn't guaranteed to be in use by anything in the dom, though
<4> by 'better' do you mean 'will work on more than 1 browser at a time'? :)
<4> hiding elements in my page to get the style seems dirty
<0> reisio, heeelp
<1> I know I know, chill :)
<0> why is it not justifyinating!
<0> :'(
<3> reisio - with the flash remark, are you referring to the layout I'm using?
<1> fredl: no
<1> fredl: the code you're using to embed the flash is bad, try with http://reisio.com/temp/flash/
<3> ok, looking at it now
<5> how do i do target="_blank" on 4.01 strict?
<1> you don't
<2> you don't.
<5> how do i get the effect of it
<2> hehe
<5> obviously
<1> hax: you don't
<2> javascript
<5> but popup blockers stop that javascript from running
<2> well that isn't your problem ;)
<5> sure it is
<5> heh
<2> heh
<6> hax: Just leave it up to the user when they want a new window.
<2> exactly
<5> Dorward: but they'll confuse themselves
<2> or use javascript and tell them to turn off popup blocker for 5 sec
<6> hax: Unexpected new windows confuse users.
<2> FF and IE both let you open blocked popups real easy
<2> Click Me (Opens in new window)
<5> Dorward: maybe
<6> hax: New windows break the back button.
<5> Dorward: yeah, but thats why they 'close' it
<6> hax: If they figure out what happened, and not until getting pissed at the author.
<3> reisio - I formatted it the way you put it on your example anyway, just to see if I see the difference, but except some other parameters for embedding the flash objects I don't understand....
<5> Dorward: maybe
<1> fredl: that's all there is to it
<1> fredl: imaginary elements like 'embed' have odd bugs ***ociated with them
<3> oh okay :P
<1> either it helps or it doesn't, but it should be an improvement either way
<3> oh yeah it's more readable now, that's for sure.
<5> Dorward: i think my users will get more confused by not having it pop up
<3> and I'm a source indentation Nazi myself anyway, so I don't mind :)
<5> Dorward: i guess i don't really have any way to know though
<3> reisio - I still am at a loss why the middle column moves over to the left however. Have you seen the 'effect'/'feature' ?
<6> hax: Do user testing then. I don't have any to hand, but I'm pretty sure that in general such tests come down against new windows.
<5> Dorward: k
<1> fredl: yes I saw it
<3> I also don't understand why the page seems to have border margins on the top and the left
<1> fredl: there are some serious syntax errors here you should fix: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.3dn.nl/tt/test.php
<1> fredl: body { margin: 0; padding: 0; }
<3> alright lemme work on getting those validation fixed first then
<3> is a background image for a td element not valid?
<1> Noia: the code you have now
<1> Noia: add .tagBox ul li { display: inline; } and hopefully it'll justify
<0> yea, I'v got some errors in my id nameing >.<
<0> fixing it now...
<0> hmmm
<0> ok...half there
<0> gaagh!
<1> spade, nice
<7> http://studioeec.com/sites/reich&tang/ I can't get the positioned transparent gif to overlay the striped background of the div below it
<7> any suggestions?
<7> tried adding z-index to the image, to the div containing it, to the striped bar below it, all with no result
<7> `validate css http://studioeec.com/sites/reich&tang/
<8> The stylesheet at http://studioeec.com/sites/reich&tang/ contains 0 errors and 70 warnings. Please see http://tinyurl.com/jsvqv
<7> 70 warnings! sheez
<7> all about color/background and redefinition of borders
<7> so that's not it
<1> hrmmm, new quirksmode looks weird
<0> reisio...
<0> :'(
<0> fix it!!!
<1> I did
<5> i can't believe this
<5> **** actually disappears in IE
<5> like it doesn't just break
<5> **** randomly disappears
<1> hax: position: relative;
<5> reisio: ?>
<5> reisio: where?
<1> to whatever is disappearing
<5> everything is disappearing :(
<1> ah, okay :p
<7> hax: quit using white-out on the monitor
<5> WebDragon: that's not even the problem this time
<5> it's not fair
<7> why is the css background-image overlaying a floated transparent gif in the div above it, is my question
<7> floated/positioned
<7> this makes NO sense
<7> hmm. maybe if I float it
<7> no wait that won't work either, the div below it has clear:both on it
<7> crappus
<7> that was why I positioned it to begin with, now I remember
<1> WebDragon: what's the problem?
<7> reisio: http://studioeec.com/sites/reich&tang/
<1> yeah?
<7> the image should overlay slightly on the green striped bar below it, but intstead it's cut off
<7> the green stripes are a background image on the div below it
<7> the image in the div above is positioned
<7> it should be completely out of the document flow
<7> (hence why I had to add height to the div)
<1> k 1min
<7> maybe it's the height cutting it off? that wouldn't make any sense
<1> shhh
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