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<0> sparrwork: are you on a domain?
<0> its pretty common for people to use domain names that they dont own or they thought didnt exist, then a company like dotster or seeq buy the domain and park it. Then, when dns cant find a domain, they are fwded to the dns servers of that particular domain
<0> lol, i know that sounds confusing, but i just had it happen to a client recently
<1> Okay, I've just lost a little bit of respect for Google. :/
<1> They give great searches. They respond quickly when someone steals your credit card to pay for their ads.
<1> But ... they use tag soup. :/
<2> hey TheWarder
<2> TheWarden
<2> your first name wouldn't happen to be michael would it?
<3> nombrecinq: no it's not actually... I'm the only TheWarden on here.
<2> hey Ocoth'
<2> so where would i put style='white-space: nowrap;' so that the form doesn't create a break?
<2> i mean Ocoth`
<3> nombrecinq: apply the style directly onto the <form> element tag.
<2> hrmm
<2> i tried that...
<3> nombrecinq: well did you set margin: 0; If I remember correctly I think the space is created by the margin. but also look at the border...
<2> TheWarden, inside the FORM tag I have this: style='white-space: nowrap; margin:0; border:0;'
<2> that doesn't seem to fix it
<3> nombrecinq: you are trying to remove the space created above the tag?
<2> i think so
<1> And always validate your HTML afterwards. Tag soup is bad. :)
<1> Heh
<1> Now I keep thinking of the idea of opening a geek-oriented restaurant with dishes named "tag soup" and such LOL
<0> it would have to be delivery if you were marketing to geeks =P
<4> hey all if I want the ip address of the client, is it $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}
<2> i thought it was $_SERVER{REMOTE_ADDR}
<5> <td cl***="a"><p> .... </td><td cl***="a><ul cl***="b">.. how do I make ul.b to be aligned with td.a p ?
<5> margin-left?
<6> Does ie has a Javascript console?
<1> In IE, you might as well consider Javascript direct commands to your administrator console anyway :P
<6> i have a web page that uses javascript that doesn't work on ie but works flawlessly on firefox
<6> how can i use the console
<0> anyone here use trillian for their irc?
<6> how can i use the console
<7> how do i say the equivalent of css: display:none; in javascript?
<8> .display = 'none'
<9> .style.display = 'none'
<10> im a little confused, i have bought a domain, and i cant seem to set it up so that kay-lync.com is translated to my IP and nothing more. I want the servers that are here to do any processing after that like www.kay-lync.com or anything else like that.
<10> on the place i have my domain registered all I can seem to figure out is to get a whatever.kay-lync.com working
<7> mattmcc: thanks... got it already
<7> mattmcc: duh
<11> Hi All :)
<12> Is it possible to float an element over a UL in the same way you can float over a DIV?
<8> Xen0n: Yes ... although I don't think the term you want is "float".
<12> oooooooh
<12> i managed it :/
<12> kinda
<12> http://c3x.net/design2/
<12> now how do i get my nav back down to the bottom of my header?
<12> it should line up with the bottom border of the header area
<13> where can i get a pastebin script like the one at pastebin.com?
<14> I'm trying to use a <div></div> with width and height attributes to use as a <hr>. It works fine in firefox, but in IE the height never gets lower than 10px's or so.
<15> perhaps you could use border-bottom: 1px on another div to get the effect
<14> hmm I could try
<12> http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdotphporgdesignattem.png
<12> thats the "outline block level elements" thing :/
<14> Provito, nope - not the effect I expect since the height of the div still ends up 10px's in IE - it makes it look weird.
<14> I guess I'll try to use the <hr> again - just always ends up with render problems.
<1> Servo888: This is a problem with IE, not your design.
<16> Servo888: Why are you using a div to replace an <hr>
<16> ^?
<16> `html hr
<17> Found for HTML 4.01 - hr - http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/graphics.html#edef-HR
<18> there should be a minimum requirement of having decent color sense to have a website :/
<19> Morning
<18> morning :) (well evening for me)
<11> Zeros, if that was the case the web would be a very empty place ;)
<1> Zeros: And tag soup should be against webhost TOS.
<18> Amarande, damn straight
<20> Zeros: you'd make a awsome internet dictator
<20> *awesome
<18> :P
<18> nmatrix9, this comes from the conversation in the cube next to me about how the client wants to be able to use any color for links, (red, blue, neon green, white) and then they complained about the background color of the page conflicting
<18> so we have to have a color chooser for every link to choose its background color and its foreground color :/
<18> I can smell the bright red and dark green color they will use from here
<11> My eyes.... They BLEED!
<21> you can't say no?
<11> Isn't the client always right?
<18> bewest, its not a project I'm on, I would have given a different response to the marketing person when they came and asked about implementing the client's request :)
<18> Wyld_Devil, they may always be right, but that doesn't mean they're not stupid. Its your job as the developer to educate them, even if in the end you have to implement their bad idea anyway :P
<11> Education is a three edge sword ;)
<21> Zeros: yeah, they should have asked /why/ they want it, and then have the designer come up with cl***es to that mesh with the overall theme to fit the need, and then have a much simpler interface to choose the purpose of the link
<18> bewest, definitely :) I've got several projects I'm already on though, and a deadline for all three at the end of august; I don't really have time to get too involved in this one
<18> bewest, have you ever heard of calling a database abstraction layer/CRUD interface a "gateway"?
<21> a gateway?
<21> guess not
<21> I haven't heard of a good many things though
<18> Neither have I, and neither wikipedia or google shed much light on it. The other day in a meeting someone called it that and the other developers made comments about it, and looked at me like I was nuts for not knowing what it was...
<18> must be a term specific to that group of people :P
<1> Dammit, I just dropped a big dollop of ketchup on my keyboard
<1> Oh well, it was only the Windows key anyway :P
<22> Hi, I'm following this tutorial here: http://tinyurl.com/jzqtt and this is what I have so far: http://tinyurl.com/g8d3h , but for some reason it doesnt look right in firefox... any idea why?
<23> can i have multiline entries in a <select> ?
<23> doens't seem to work
<9> Nope.
<14> damn this <hr>... I set border:none; for my hr - in Firefox it works, but in IE it doesn't...
<24> border: 0;
<9> The line drawn by an <hr> isn't necessarily a border, it's pretty browser subjective.
<14> mattmcc, ah ok... hmm
<14> jonas21, border:0; is not working
<14> mattmcc, so what are you suggestions?
<14> your*
<9> I just don't use 'em. :P
<14> mattmcc, lol - it's suppose to be to make the design... I don't want to just make a stupid picture - seems like a waste - but it's possible I guess.
<9> Is there another element you could put a border on?
<22> Hi, I'm following this tutorial here: http://tinyurl.com/jzqtt and this is what I have so far: http://tinyurl.com/g8d3h , but for some reason it doesnt look right in firefox... any idea why?
<14> mattmcc, you knwo what that might work. I'll add a div and insert my text into it - then add a border to that.
<4> is there any way to cost out input boxs
<4> say for instance on a sign up form they make a mistake I want it so that it brings it back with all the fields ghosted out except the one they got wrong
<4> is it possible to do that?
<11> Java Script?
<10> i hear your not supposed to use <br> anymore, if not then what are you supposed to use?
<11> <p> </p>
<11> Thats what they are for... Paragraphs
<25> Why souldn we use <br> anymore?
<10> *shrugs* thats what i was wondering, a friend told me theres a new standard of things your not supposed to use and such.
<25> That's wrong!
<10> yeah, i told him he was an ***hat
<25> Even XHTML 2.0 still supports <br />.
<26> Wyld_Devil: but it's sometimes useful to use a <br> within a <p>...
<11> Absolutly :)
<9> prism: I'd say it's easier on the user to highlight the area around the invalid fields, rather than trying to fade out actual fields.
<27> hi
<11> I think its more a comment aimed at those people who don't use paragraph tags and instead use <br> in its place normally double <br><br>
<4> mattmcc, yeah I would to, but well i fancied messing around (personal site) :)
<27> hehe
<27> I remember trying that, my first attempt at a web page
<27> but after a few hours on this channel, my page structure was whipped into shape!
<4> I was never to bad at design except that I did everything in tablers
<27> so, what are people using to track thier site stats?
<4> until getting shouted at in here for 3 days solid :)
<27> hehe
<27> tough love
<4> yah not got a bad design now though
<4> http://88-109-254-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com:8080/
<4> ignore the splash >.<
<4> me just venting a little
<10> any version of internet explorer is cl***ed as antique,
<10> rofl
<27> I like that
<27> good stuff
<27> so, what are you using as a site framework? or is that search box a plugin?
<4> eh
<4> err
<4> well
<4> i just sorta typed 'vi' in terminal
<4> and started writing :o
<27> ah
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