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<0> a huge comet just flew over my house
<0> wtf is that about
<1> ooo, I wonder if I can see it
<1> nope, too early I guess
<0> i've never seen anything so bright in the skey
<0> *sky
<1> I don't think they were expecting it to be visible to the naked eye
<0> i wonder why they never hit us
<1> because the earth is tiny, and space is really really big
<0> oh
<0> whats at the end of space?
<1> a 7 eleven
<0> predictable
<2> hax: silly cerebrum has to put a limit on the perception of all perceivable concepts
<0> iratik: so... 42?
<2> that doesn't mean there is a limit for any given unknown concept
<0> iratik: tbh, i dont know why we can't just keep sending satellites out until we hit the end... or whatever
<2> i don't think there is an end
<0> iratik: you think it pulls a pacman?
<2> i think like a limit in calculus --- as the satelite gets farther and farther out -- matter is spread farther and farther apart and is less and less dense ... until its virutally nothing .. getting less and less dense but never becoming empty
<0> oh
<2> so .. there may be no end
<0> that probably makes more sense than hitting the end and wrapping around to the other side
<2> i believe it does
<3> iratik No that doesn't make sense
<2> why nott?
<3> it would rely on us being a special place in the universe (otherwise matter would be more spread out here as we are from other parts of the universe)
<0> iratik: but why dont we just send a bunch of little satellites out? and have them line up like a big chain? and eventually see whats out there?
<2> Jibber: i wasn't speaking strictly relative to earth... you would have to analyze the red shift among all points in the sky to even approximate where everything is expanding from
<3> iratik, but the fact it's expanding would make it not unreasonable for a newtonian person such as hax to wonder about what it's expanding into
<0> mmm, newton
<3> i.e. how can there be not be something else that the universe is expanding into
<2> hax: its not so much that... i think its our ability to accept silly guesses that gives us so much cognitive insight as compared to sequential processing archetectures that make attempts at emulating biological cognition
<2> mmm.. figs
<0> iratik: i just dont see why you cant keep sending things farther and farther out
<3> and the surface of a balloon is the cl***ic example of a geometry which expands without needing to have something to expand into
<0> iratik: and at some point, you know whats out there
<2> but its the part of your brain hax that's leading your line of questioning thats more important than what your asking about
<0> iratik: do what now?
<0> iratik: all i'm saying is that we should devise a way to figure out whats out there
<0> i dont really care in a daily-life sense... but i'd like to know
<2> what is your brain expanding into ... if the process that creates the planets among the forces of chaos and energy in the universe mimics natural selection ... and so does the process that creates thought patterns in your brain amidst the conflict of morals and past experiences ... what is you brain expanding into -- then you will answer what the universe is expanding into
<0> umm
<0> forget i asked
<3> hax - the universe may be infinite in scope
<3> or it may be like a balloon or doughnut or some other shape.
<0> JibberJim: well if its infinite, we're either a huge statistical improbability, or there's a lot more people/things like us out there than us
<2> evolution has produced a sufficient adaptive mechanism .. not necessarily a mechanism that is coherent in its adherence to the idea that limits apply to all objects
<3> if it had some shape then if you kept going you could end up back somewhere you'd already been
<3> like again on a surface of a balloon
<2> hax: were nmot improbably ... were a mathematical inevitability
<0> i'm confused
<2> just like you hold a lighter up to a hydrogen balloon and it pops .. in the same inevitable fashion .. we exist
<0> so... do other things exist?
<2> they exist because they are able to persist due to an accumulation of adaptations from previous states of time
<3> iratik, no there's no mathematical inevitability that we exist
<2> i think there is ...
<2> just like breaking on a pool table ... its inevitable that the balls will return to some holes given that force is applied to the balls
<0> sure did
<0> i dont know, forget i asked
<0> when aliens or a comet or something hit earth
<0> then i'll be like "oh, i guess thats whats out there"
<2> you should ... read my blog if ur bored http://xanga.com/iratik
<0> until then, i wont worry about it
<0> iratik: tl;dr ... thats a lot of ramblings :P
<2> yeppp..... you could guess i like to ramble alot
<0> word
<0> iratik: lol at the bible link though
<0> iratik: "pi does not = 3"
<0> i lol'd
<2> nope... i just hate how bible beaters stick to that stuff...
<0> heh
<0> http://bible.cc/1_kings/7-23.htm
<0> heh, thats so funny
<4> goodnight
<5> You know that weird email I got yesterday that was semi-spam but no links/HTML etc? I got another one from another address responding to the first one.. but forwarded to all the forwards on the first one.. it's like they're forwarding normal conversation to random addresses..
<3> seems possible
<3> who cares what junk means
<5> I'm thinking it's some bug in gmail's filters.. if you get a conversation going after a while they can send you blatent spam but not have it flagged
<5> Well, I care because there's no motive to this spam.. so I'm thinking my account was hijacked somehow
<5> so I just changed my p*** to a strong randomly generated one
<5> just to be sure
<6> sipher, I suppose the idea is that if you responded and it started a Thread then a response that's spam shouldn't be placed in spam?
<6> odd though since you didn't respond, it was from someone else
<7> Anyone here know how good/bad NameCheap is at processing outbound transfers? (I'm transferring from them to my web host.)
<5> Zeros: Yeah.. the only thing that makes me think it's spam is the guys name.. like chengeh ksudghiausfh. :p
<7> sipher: I have a good cousin named asdflkj!
<6> sipher, I've seen weirder emails :p that does look spamish though
<5> ironicaly yesterday I just read a AskMe post asking how to tell if someone hijacked your gmail account.. which you can't
<5> Nothing is in my sent mail but that doesn't mean anything. They could just delete it from sent and then from trash
<6> I found a rather nasty security hole in gmail :/
<6> The URL it redirects on when you login has a hash in the query string, which is what it uses to authenticate you, so even if you delete your cookies, and someone else goes to that same url they get instantly logged in
<5> You should be able to lock sent mail with a different p***.. so you'd know if someone was sending mail at least
<6> They should really make those onetime authtokens
<8> yo
<5> I wish there was a filter to ban all nigerians
<8> sipher: that seems a little racist
<8> although I'm guessing you mean something slightly different
<5> sh1mmer: Maybe.. but the only time I've seen anything written on the web by Nigerians was spam
<8> well I imagine Africa's richest country does do other things on the internet, even if they aren't with you
<9> Nigeria is richer than South Africa ?
<8> Oil
<5> sh1mmer: There's tons of sites that ban all Nigerian IP ranges because the rate of fraud is like > 80%
<8> sipher: I think that's a terrible idea
<8> technically I can understand
<8> but it stops that country's development by blacklisting them because of the current situation
<8> it's not like it's not possible to trap spam based on the mail
<10> and it's not like the country can't focus more on stopping the fraud
<3> oh yeah _W, 'cos tha tis obviously what's important to the country
<3> I mean the millions in poverty without adequate food water or medical attention aren't worth worrying about compared to combating a few email scams
<11> I saw a BBC documentary slot about Nigerian spamming a few months ago
<5> I saw one on MSNBC
<11> The reporter accompanied the police on a raid of an internet cafe
<11> He ended up being hustled into a car and driven off pronto when the locals starting throwing stuff and pulling guns on the cops.
<10> JibberJim, it sounds like you're saying it's ok for the starving to steal; it's valid opinion, but not everyone agree
<3> No I'm not at all _W
<11> So I don't think closing down spamming operations is a cup of tea for the local authorities there.
<3> I'm saying that it should not be a priority for Nigerian government resources to be combatting a problem that is little but a nuisance to the vast majority of people
<3> and the few cases where it's not, the people are really very gullible. Nigerian government should be spending its resources more appropriate to its own people
<11> Indeed, fighting poverty should reduce spam by providing people with better ways to make a buck.
<11> (in theory anyhow)
<10> JibberJim, and server admins should be spending their time on more productive means for their users, and banning nigerian ip's is very productive in many cases
<10> much easier than almost all the alternatives
<3> I didn't argue it was a bad idea
<3> however I understood such spam tended to come from botnets - not from nigeria itself
<3> I'd be shocked nigeria had enough external bandwidth
<5> They should just isolate the whole country.. refusing them access to the web. Yeah, they're poor, but it's not like the scammers are sharing the wealth either. Think of all the tax money that would come from the hundreds of billions being lost to fraud.. that could be used to help the poor.
<10> JibberJim, not everyone have access to their own botnet heh
<5> If you're so concerned, cut them off from the web and use the extra taxes to send aid
<3> _W - if you've access to the ability to launder thousands of pounds, you certainly have access to an awful lot of stuff
<11> sipher, Like I said, it looks like the spammers were part of a black market that helped sustain the local community (or at least powerful figures therein capable of mobilizing anti-police riots. So it's not that simple.
<3> botnets can easily be rented
<10> or you're just doing a job for a minimal percentage
<5> JibberJim: but nigerians have to be able to access the botnets.. they couldn't if they couldn't reach outside the country
<10> now THAT'S drastic
<3> sipher - you realise not all nigerian scammers are in nigeria don't you?
<5> yes
<5> many are even in the US
<5> but cutting off Nigeria would have a huge impact
<5> perfect arguement for genocide then. :p
<9> that's what I'd say about dubya :)
<12> I've been thinking. Which is worse. An iframe, or using ajax to call a page and holding it in a <div> with overflow:auto;
<5> What bothers me is most of the Nigerian scammers in the US have been caught more than once.. and they're still here. I'm sick of people coming here to live, badmouthing our country and commiting crime. I have no problem with people coming here, even illegaly, as long as they pay taxes and follow our laws.. but there shouldn't be any second chances.. if you **** up you should instantly be deported. You'd think the Nigerians would be greatful to escape thei
<5> </racist rant>
<11> PseudoPlacebo, How about an object?
<12> Not sure what you're talking about.
<5> sit around*
<11> PseudoPlacebo, It rather depends on what you're trying to do.
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