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<0> Its a Futurama quote
<1> I thought that was kind of a cute insult, personally
<1> better than "die in a fire." Wtf was that?
<0> ^Migs^: just wishful thinking I guess
<1> my insults are never bad.
<1> I think it's important you realize that.
<0> "**** a 10-pound lemon", thats pretty pathetic, some might consider it 'bad'
<2> not sure '**** a 10-pound lemon' qualifies as 'insult'
<2> some people like lemons, y'know
<3> Oooh! Me!!!
<0> reisio: not sure I'd pay 10 pounds for a lemon either :P
<2> hahah
<4> Noia yea but reisio said that some people like them... maybe they REALLY like them
<5> does anyone know why safari expands divs that are just designed to clear? http://ivankozik.com/misc/ for example
<2> there's this guy that has a restaurant called 'Falafel King'
<5> there's a black box in the nav bar at the top
<2> and he likes to use limes instead of lemons for his lemonade
<2> because they're cheaper :p
<4> damn you people! all this talk of lemons and falafels is making me hungry
<2> me, too :)
<2> I have pizza
<0> reisio: Im scared of black-boxes
<6> i recall that char such as ~ in url needs to be encoded as hex i.e. %7E, but apparently the validator says ampersand should be encoded as &
<4> Noia im scared of black holes more
<7> >:)
<7> points to anyone who groks the (rather obvious) reference
<4> WebDragon feel free to hit me with the gold brick... as long as i get to keep it afterwards
<0> WebDragon: haha
<3> What is it?
<4> either do i :(
<7> Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
<4> i feel so unedumacated
<7> douglas adams
<4> oh
<3> Oh.. I should read that sometime.
<4> dunno how i missed that
<7> which, if you haven't read it, you must
<0> I agree!
<0> although, don't read the last book
<0> it ****s
<1> no u usk
<0> ...
<1> http://noia.justgotowned.com
<0> lemme guess
<0> it puts "Noia" into some image ?
<8> I just got a big red square
<8> with a snake with a stop sign over it
<1> this one's cool: http://noia.youaremighty.com
<2> ha
<1> major confidence booster
<0> no flash
<8> same red frame I'm afraid
<1> that's not my problem
<0> you make it sound like I wanted to see the links anyhow
<1> if I tell you that you want to see the links, you will want to see the links
<1> do not contradict me
<0> dont you mean, disobey ?
<1> I suggest you watch it, Noia. You do NOT want to make me angry.
<0> haha, or what ?
<9> howdy
<9> hey, to have javascript submit a specific form button... is the following correct? document.myButtonName.submit();
<9> how do I specify that I want it to submit using the button with value="foo" instead of value="bar"?
<0> ^__^
<0> We were just talking about you
<9> who?
<0> you
<0> or rather "Kaylee:
<9> oh?
<9> firefly?
<0> and by just, I mean 20 minutes ago
<0> yuh
<9> or a different user?
<0> <3
<0> Firefly
<8> http://www.wilsonweb.com/design/js-off.htm What do you do with people like this?
<9> so... anyone have pointer on the question?
<0> kaylee: no
<9> oh
<9> boo
<0> you want document.getElementById('id_of_my_form').submit();
<8> kaylee, I don't think you can do it
<8> and multiple form buttons on a form is a bad idea anyway
<9> yeah... I didn't make it that way
<9> but I can't change it (it will break other things)
<8> a form should do one thing, and multiple choices should be made with appropriate controls like radio buttons or select dropdowns
<9> indeed
<8> can't you make multiple forms?
<9> no
<8> that wouldn't break any backend scripts
<0> kaylee: just use a hidden field and then make the button do something like prepost($val) { document.getElementById('My_hidden_field').value = $val; document.getElementById('id_of_my_form').submit(); }
<8> at worst case, if you HAVE to leave the visual form intact, you can have multiple hidden forms that you can copy values to and submit with javascript
<0> nice and not-quite-as-simple-as-one-would-have-liked
<9> that won't work either
<8> hmm yes that's a better idea
<0> kaylee: how about you show us the problem :P
<9> humm... wish I could... this thing is such a mess I'm not sure how to pull out a test case
<8> at least you only need one hidden form, with hidden inputs to copy the submit values
<9> this one page, the form consists of a couple hidden fields and two submit buttons
<0> two submit buttons ?
<9> one button is the "continue and start my session" (which the user then starts getting charged) and the other is "cancel" (in which case they don't get access)
<9> the back end jsp is a total mess
<0> kaylee: just make the cancle button do this.window.location = "not here!"
<8> but the html is independant of the front end
<8> s/front/back/
<8> all that the backend cares about is what data gets submitted, not which form it came from, or if that form was visible
<0> a cancle button dosn't really _need_ to post, just redirect the user somewhere else
<9> _W_: true... but the way it's looking at the form submittion is funky
<8> so?
<9> actually, in this case the cancel button DOES need to post... on cancel it removes the record from the database so the user doesn't get charged
<0> kaylee: why not just make the cancle button redirect, I don't see the problem..
<10> hi all
<8> kaylee, what if the user just close his browser when prompted with the form?
<0> kaylee: erm, why not just have a "confirmed" flag ?
<10> !seen Joji_
<10> !seen _hp_
<0> and then confirmed flag should be set to 1 IFF the user has confirmed the settings and wants to be charged
<9> honestly, I've never actually tracked what happens if the user just closes their browser
<0> then just run a cron job every 24h and clean the db
<9> but I have no options regarding changing the back end.
<0> kaylee: you should, you could be liable for fraud otherwise =\
<9> hell... I haven't even been able to get the servlets to build again
<8> kaylee, perhaps you do not understand "independant", or perhaps you did not really think it was true
<8> but really, honestly, the back end is independant of the html
<9> Noia: I'm fairly confident that it does not start chargin the user if they close the browser... but it doesn't clean up the database
<8> 100% independant, no entanglement; it can't tell what html was used to submit it
<0> kaylee: how come you can't change the backend ?
<9> Noia: haven't been able to rebuild it
<0> kaylee: what do you mean ?
<9> I can update the jsp... but not the servlet
<0> kaylee: O_o
<9> Noia: it's using ant to build... and something's not set right
<8> I love those systems; so old noone even knows how to start them again if the server should boot
<0> kaylee: I think that should be your main priority....if you can't build it, how can you maintain it ?
<9> this HUGE system was purchased from some other comapny several years ago... and it's a big ugly ****ing mess
<9> rushed patch work atm
<0> kaylee: rewrite ?
<0> >.<
<9> WAY too big
<0> what exactly is this app for ?
<9> I don't even have all the pieces open in eclipse... and to search all the files at the moment is over 27k
<11> Maybe it's so big, you don't need everything it does, and a rewrite would save space.. :)
<9> wifi management...
<9> perhaps
<0> kaylee: wifi...as in 802.11 wifi ?
<9> but I'm sure you know how anal upper management can be with time
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