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<0> prism: Personally, I'd forget about it and accept whatever the browser default style is.
<1> Dorward, but its all purty and gl*** like 8)
<1> Dorward, point taken though, what should I do about the gap, set a line-height: 5px; and a br before the form?
<1> Wyld_Devil, bad errors? :| you got the validator link handy
<0> prism: A margin-top sounds more like it.
<2> I've fixed it all now ;)
<1> Dorward, ah cool :)
<1> Wyld_Devil, neat hmm how to get the files across here though, if you can zip or tar or something www.alchemy-networks.co.uk/utils/upload.html should do the trick
<1> weird it 404's for me
<1> ahtypo
<2> http://www.nightmares.co.uk/oo/
<1> oh god I even missed the end of head
<1> I seem to be getting worse
<2> prism, that what you were trying to do?
<1> Wyld_Devil, why is it all red and mis aligned
<1> oh I see
<1> no images :)
<2> There was a limit to the images I could get ;)
<1> hmm
<3> Hi. [http]: can I use "Transfer-Encoding: chunked" in POST request?
<1> Wyld_Devil, ok dokey
<1> Wyld_Devil, http://88.109.254.165:8080/oo/ :-) works great
<1> ooh hold on
<1> Wyld_Devil, was a bad thing to space with?
<0> prism: Yes. Use margins and padding if you want to seperate things.
<1> Dorward, ok dokey
<1> Wyld_Devil, thank you so much for the help ill write a note to send you some cash via paypal for the help (after getting paid)
<2> The validator didn't like it ;)
<2> Hold on I can add the spaces back in now i've put a p tag there
<2> handy *grins*
<2> If there are errors in the code it makes it harder for the browser to display the page
<2> Your text is still black ;)
<1> hehe
<1> Wyld_Devil, one thing that seems to be missing sorry for pestering is the center element is not 800px
<1> shall I just replicate the cl*** button and call it 'center' or something and set width: 800px;
<2> I thought the idea was to have a pixel independant lay out? ;)
<4> specifying anything in pixels is a bad idea, akin to having a fixed number of digits for specifying a timestamp
<4> some day it will be too small
<4> (or in the case of the web; today, for some user)
<1> Wyld_Devil, I want it like this: www.opera.com
<1> with set margins each side
<1> thought it looked kinda cool
<2> hmm...
<1> is that difficult to do :o
<1> hmm i wonder
<1> what id I do something lik
<1> e
<1> <span cl***=margins><div id=cmargin></div</span>
<1> and set xmargin width:800px;
<0> prism: Invalid HTML
<1> err cmargin*
<1> how about if i make the centarl div a span
<0> prism: span elements are display: inline by default so the width property would not apply
<1> ah
<1> what if I display:block
<0> Then you'd have something display: block inside something display: inline and things could get messy.
<1> hmm
<1> Dorward, how would you suggest acheiving that effect
<0> I don't know what the effect is, and don't really have time to go poking at Opera's website to work out what you mean.
<1> hmmm
<1> right they have three coloums
<1> the buttons are all in the central at the top
<1> the content is below it
<1> on the left and right is a expandable margin
<1> but the central content is fixed width
<1> `css em
<5> Found for CSS 2 - em - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#em-width
<1> Wyld_Devil, sorry to ask, can you help
<6> is there any way in javascript to delete all the cookies I've set all at one go -- without knowing the names of those cookies?
<7> CucumberCurry: not that I know of
<8> is there something like <overbar>x</overbar>?
<9> xahlee: no. That'd be presentational. Perhaps you are thinking 'overline' in CSS?
<8> Windrose: let me try...
<10> `css text-decoration
<5> Found for CSS 2 - text-decoration - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/text.html#propdef-text-decoration
<10> Specifically.
<8> Windrose: egad, it's so verbose: <span style="text-decoration:overline">vA</span>
<8> i wonder if i just make it a unicode char
<10> xahlee: <span cl***="foo">vA</span>?
<10> xahlee: besides, are you sure span is appropriate? Looks like an abbreviation of sorts.
<8> done with unicode combining chars. But the prob with this is that, perhaps it's less compatible
<8> Windrose: it's for a vector in math.
<10> xahlee: not one of my topics. However, if the line is /decorative only/, then the CSS method is correct. If it is a part of the character, then a character it should be made.
<8> i'm not sure there is a browser that does MathML...
<4> indeed
<4> it's not very useful if that's your goal
<0> xahlee: Firefox
<0> xahlee: IE with a plugin
<4> and Windrose is right, I'd say unicode is the way, it's part of the meaning of what you write
<4> Firefox does MathML?
<4> interesting
<10> xahlee: Dadzilla.
<10> I'd test Opera if W3C's test suite worked.
<0> xahlee: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/
<4> firefox complains about missing fonts, but other than that it seems to work
<11> what's the alternative to saying <a href="#" onClick="dosomejs()"> where # is not appended the url ?
<11> javascript: ?
<10> alphablue: the alternative? I don't quite understand the question ... ?
<0> alphablue: <a href="serversideFallback.cgi" onclick="return dosomejs()"> (and have your function return a true or false value depending on its success or otherwise
<4> alphablue, the alternative is to write in an actual working link that does the same as the javascript, but server side
<11> dorward: got it
<8> i decided just to use capital letters for vectors, instead of a char with overbar
<12> Does anybody know the largest width, in "ex", that I can apply to a <div> so it still fits inside the browser window? I am interested in 800x600+ displays and default settings for common browsers.
<4> hmm?
<12> I mean, my page is a 100ex-wide <div>
<4> a user can resize his browser viewport in almost unlimited ways
<12> W_work: yes, I know
<4> why?
<4> why not have it expand to the viewport
<10> ctgPi: it doesn't work that way. It depends on available canvas, font size, and a number of other things.
<12> I'm worried mostly about users that don't know how to change the default font size
<12> Those that can probably can resize their window and/or change their font size if the page comes up too wide
<12> *Those that know probably...
<12> I'm just asking for a general guideline -- is 100ex too wide?
<10> ctgPi: probably very narrow.
<0> ctgPi: General guideline: Set a max-width and not a width - then pick something that is comfortable to read with your font size preferences.
<12> Dorward: You are suggesting I should write something like {width: 100ex; max-width: 100%;}?
<0> ctgPi: No. { width: auto; ma-width: 100ex; }
<12> Dorward: or that I drop using "ex" at all?
<0> max*
<12> Dorward: does that work in IE too, or I'll have to write a hack so it doesn't expand all the way? (AFAIK, IE doesn't support max-width)
<4> ctgPi, are you *sure* you don't want to let the user deside characters per column on his own?
<0> ctgPi: There are JavaScript hacks to add support for max-width to IE ... I generally let the user reduce the width of their window if its uncomfortably wide.
<12> W_work: You mean, using percentage widths?
<4> I mean letting the site use the full width of the viewport, independant of font size
<12> Dorward: I'll change my CSS; just a sec
<4> that way, if I like really long lines, I can maximise my browser window and set the font size down, or if I like really short lines I can do the opposite
<12> W_work: OK, seems reasonable enough
<12> W_work, Windrose, Dorward: thanks for the input
<2> prism you asked for my help? :)
<1> Wyld_Devil, yeah lol I cant figure this thing out :) its driving me nuts wondered if you had any ideas
<2> which thing? :)
<1> Wyld_Devil, my site, im trying to get it so the central element is a fixed width :)
<8> it's july 4th, can people do me a fav?
<2> Tried width: x; on the encapsulating DIV?
<1> yes
<1> well its not a div really
<1> its <div><span><span><span><div>
<1> and span is inline not block
<1> so it wont use width:
<13> then you might need to re-evalutate your use of the span element there :-p
<2> You want the individual span elements to be a fixed width?
<2> hmm...
<1> Wyld_Devil, just the middle one
<13> just make it display:block;
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