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<0> i'm watching the england match online
<1> black_Nightmare: I'm confused
<1> btw, Happy Canada Day everyone! :D
<2> never mind it then crimson
<1> black_Nightmare: they all sent me stuff first, btw
<1> well, Ocoth didn't send me anything, but he's been hosting my site for free for almost a year now
<3> crimson_penguin: hell, no. I /could/ balance with insulin, but ... *shrugs*
<1> Windrose: may as well make it last anyway ;)
<2> I see
<3> crimson_penguin: true :)
<1> could someone test in IE6 whether the left thumbnails are aligned right on this page? www.happyspork.com/all19
<1> and, if anything is messed up about it
<2> I'm sure someone would tho
<4> it's messed up...
<1> that's not good



<1> crap! that is definitely messed up
<2> well I'm going off anyhow so bye
<4> crimson_penguin: the new additions are as nice as ever :)
<1> deadroot: thanks :)
<1> why doesn't IE respect my margin-bottom: 4px; ? :-/
<4> hmm.. it looks okay in IE now...
<1> yeah, I reverted it on the site, but I still wanna make it work
<1> see how the vertical ones on the left are aligned left? that looks kinda silly
<4> oh. it's not that bad
<1> but it's be nicer if it weren't like that
<4> it is centered in IE, and not in Fx
<1> now that I look at it, I'm actually not sure why it would work in anything..
<4> margin: 0 auto;? your <a> is display: block
<1> yeah, that's on purpose
<4> .thumbds img {margin: 0 auto; ...} works in fx
<1> but wouldn't that center it? that's an idea though, I could probably right-align it like that
<4> i thought that centering it would look better
<1> you don't think it's better to have them aligned with the center div?
<4> you mean having the vertical images on the right to be aligned to the right and the vertical images on the left pushed to the left?
<1> other way around
<1> left ones aligned right, right ones aligned left
<4> oh
<4> centering is less complex. more focus towards the image in the center
<1> but then you don't have a straight line of thumbs
<4> you won't have a straight line of thumbs when you have the vertical images
<1> well, you can have one straight line at least
<4> true
<1> one that lines up with the other straight line of the border
<4> yes
<4> "Kitten" does not look like a kitten :) http://www.happyspork.com/all12_picture1811
<1> that's her name ;)
<4> :)
<1> I can't figure out why this is working at all though; I haven't set the width of two of the floating divs, shouldn't they not be next to eachother?
<5> `css float
<6> Found for CSS 2 - float - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#propdef-float
<1> and it stops working in IE when I set #thumbs_left {margin-left: auto;}
<5> "A floated box must have an explicit width (***igned via the 'width' property, or its intrinsic width in the case of replaced elements)."
<1> Dorward: but 2 of mine don't, and they're still floating next to each other
<5> crimson_penguin: The murkey land of browser error handling
<7> hey Dorward .. what was it you were saying yesterday about Appendix C recursively pointing elsewhere and wherever that was pointing back to App. C ?
<1> Dorward: are you sure they're doing something wrong though? it seems to work in most everything
<5> WebDragon|away: Not appendix C. Section 5.1.
<1> Dorward: the page in question is this one, btw: www.happyspork.com/all19
<5> WebDragon|away: Well, actually, looks like it is Appendix C. Sorry.
<5> WebDragon|away: "Note that this recommendation does not ... define the meaning of the Internet Media Type text/html."
<7> yeah but I forgot the exact details of where it was pointing that you had referred to
<5> WebDragon|away: And RFC 2854 says that XHTML 1.0 defines a profile of XHTML that may be served as text/html.
<5> WebDragon|away: So its not very clear. And one reading is that nothing actually authorises any version of XHTML 1.0 to be served as text/html.
<1> I fixed it :)
<1> deadroot: now I've got straight lines of thumbs on both sides
<4> crimson_penguin: i see it
<8> rofl
<1> s/organic/unsprayed/
<0> Ocoth thought you were going to sleep :p
<0> here's a good question for you guyys
<8> krisp i had to get motivated
<8> krisp going in like, ....minus sixty minutes
<0> just moved a pc with a wireless keyboard and mouse



<0> move it
<4> you need motivation to go to sleep?
<0> keyboard still works
<8> my bed needed making
<8> and things
<0> can't get mouse to work for love no moeny...
<4> oh yes
<0> can't explain it...!!!!
<8> krisp you checked the things?
<8> krisp buttons to ***ociate them on the mouse/basestation?
<0> pressed them
<0> 100 times at least
<0> I'm pissed of
<8> did the PC respond?
<0> yuh huh
<8> is it on USB or PS/2?
<0> but the mouse pointer ain't movin
<0> PS/2
<0> have reset the box a few thousand times too...
<8> so the PC told you that it had connected the mouse?
<0> in a round about way - as best as it could
<0> yes
<7> Windrose: wax? :)
<8> krisp brand?
<0> logitech
<8> sam
<8> e*
<0> why ralph can't put up with a usb one I don#t know
<8> changed the batteries?
<0> hmmm yes
<0> might try doing that again though...
<0> one sec
<8> I had mine on USB
<8> but then it had OS issues, so I moved over to PS/2
<8> and the BSoDs went away
<0> it's NOT working :(
<8> okay
<8> well goodnight
<8> have fun with it :P
<0> night dude
<0> :P
<9> hi... i would need to p*** a multi-line string in a hidden <input>'s value field... is this possible? Can I just do value="blabla <new line> foo" ?
<9> hrm. seems to work.
<9> thanks :)
<10> My Opera SSR is broke :(
<11> *scnr* ;-)
<10> I think its going to take more than ducktape ;)
<3> crimson_penguin: SO says thanks for the chocolate; liked it more than I :)
<12> mmm chocolate
<1> Windrose: you're very welcome :) (and so is she, I guess ;)
<10> OK any idea on why SSR isn't working in Opera?
<13> is escaping < and > to &lt;&gt; enough to prevent XSS?
<4> typically, but not a 100% certainty
<4> otherwise XSS would have been buried a long time ago, as a curiosity
<13> deadroot look , heres test prog of me: http://www.allesvandrenthe.nl/cgi-bin/search?q=te*&start=0
<13> everything inserted into the <input type> is directly put in the value
<13> so im not sure what to escape to make it 'secure'
<4> you'll need to escape the <,>, and "
<4> as well as '
<4> you could write a function that does the replacements. in php, we would use www.php.net/htmlspecialchars
<13> ok so <>,"'
<13> i know..
<13> why the ','
<4> the comma isn't necessary
<13> ok
<4> if you want to be complete, you should also replace the &
<4> those 5 entities are the most important
<13> its a little stupid i have to do this, because the browser sends it like this:
<13> http://www.allesvandrenthe.nl/cgi-bin/search?q=test%3C%3E%26%27%22&start=0
<13> already encoded
<13> or is that a different encoding
<5> HS^: URL encoded
<13> ok


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