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<0> you would hzave thought blogger.com would disallow people starting a viagra spam blog :(
<1> konstandinos: uhm. "rw- --- ---" ought mean that you, the owner, can read them.
<2> this is annoying because ive use what are considered "best practises" in my php upload scripts
<0> http://order-viagra-ins.blogspot.com
<2> Windrose: yeah, but just the owner
<0> konrads you can always use your php script to set the ownership after an upload...
<2> ie: i cannot download the images in ftp - i get FAILED: permission denied
<2> krisp: yeah ive just realised that - a bit of a mission though
<0> no - not really
<2> im surprised noone cared to mention this in the file upload tutorials
<0> you just do chmod("/somedir/somefile", 0644);
<2> krisp: is it just a one-liner/
<2> ah ok
<2> thanks for that
<0> don't thank me - thank http://uk.php.net/chmod
<2> busy looking at that :)
<2> ok but now should i set the uploaded files to rw- rw- ---
<2> or rw- rw- rw-
<2> what the heck does group imply
<2> ?
<1> konstandinos: a 'group' of users - it's a way to allow a resource (file, directory) to be access by a group of people, but not everyone.
<2> and these groups are stipulated in etc/groups?
<2> cause i feel very ignorant in just setting a directory's group permissions to rw- when i dont even know what groups im referring to
<1> konstandinos: depends on your OS. /etc/group on Linux, usually.
<1> konstandinos: then set "r--" for group; problem solved - or even "---"
<2> yeah but then for i cannot download the files via ftp
<3> any one know a chat room where I can get help useing GIMP?
<2> *but then i cannot
<2> yeah, #gimp
<4> that's a no brainer :)
<1> konstandinos: the problem here is that the FTP server likely run as another user (not yourself); prolly 'nobody'.
<3> yeah my mid night no brainer
<2> ah ok
<2> its 3:20pm here in south africa :)
<2> and im also experiencing some no-brainer moments with this permissions thing
<1> konstandinos: it's ... something which isn't that hard, but it does require some basic knowledge of how user/group file/directory management work ... :)
<1> That might have come out wrong. It's the glue. Gets to my mind.
<2> lol
<5> Is there a good channel to discuss low-level PDF creation?
<5> (I'm trying to work out from the PDF reference how one labels form fields in an accessible manner.)
<2> yeah, #low-level-pdf-creation
<2> no just kidding :p
<1> webben: for starters I think they call it "tagging"; but no; sorry. Never run across one.
<5> The spec's confusing because they mention form controls, but not form labels.
<5> I can't believe the correct way to do is just stick text next to a control.
<1> It'd better not be, but ...
<6> My eyes are horizontal slits...
<6> I got about two hours of sleep. I know I was still awake looking at the clock at 2:30, and I woke up from the alarm at 5:00
<7> whats a good site for hosting reviews / comparisons ?
<5> Hmm ... that's good. The Adobe PDF Reference crashes Adobe Acrobat.
<5> *Adobe Reader.
<8> How do you form a proper irc:// url?
<8> one that embeds a channel to join
<8> ah, nvm
<8> Just found something helpful on it :)
<9> how can i makea background image stay even if i scroll the page?
<8> js_: background-repeat:
<8> no-repeat;
<8> er, sorry, that's meant to be on one line
<8> horrible paste accident there
<9> yes, but if i have no-repeat and scroll the page, the image will dissappear
<9> i want it to stay in the same positiona ll the time
<8> js_: Try this then: http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-attachment
<9> great, thanks
<8> js_: Oh, you might want position: absolute; top: 10; left: 10; then or something like that
<8> no-repeat only works for the parent container within which the image exists
<10> 10 what?
<8> Dorward: 10 it's-early-and-i-forgot-about-units
<9> background-attachment is what i wanted, thanks
<8> Dorward: they were just placeholders for demonstration :P
<11> I'm building a JS object to handle all of the DOM manipulation. I was wondering what's better when changing an elements cl***, elm.cl***Name || elm.setAttribute
<10> scoy: Since MSIE has a very broken implementation of setAttribute - the cl***Name property.
<11> Dorward: even the new IE 7.0 ?
<10> scoy: Yes
<11> hmm, thanks
<11> Dorward: do you know what's so broken about IE's setAttribute?
<10> scoy: setAttribute('cl***', 'foo') won't work, for a start.
<11> oh wow
<10> scoy: setAttribute('cl***Name', 'foo') will, but shouldn't.
<11> oj
<11> oh
<10> (Of course it won't work in any other browser)
<11> friggin IE
<11> I'm flirting around with namespacing my javascript but I've ran into an issue
<11> http://pastebin.com/872810
<11> when I call myJs.dom.getElm(someId) i get 'function not defined'
<11> I even wait for the window to load before I call it
<10> I don't know my way around JS prototypes ... but do you really need to support IE 4?
<11> probably not, but it was just a few more lines
<11> like i said, im just messing around
<11> well, i removed the prototype and it fixed it.
<11> I'm just wondering if I need to mess with prototyping
<12> does IE support innerHTML ?
<10> babo_: IE invented it. (Browsers tend to be inconsistent with how they handle it though ... even with their regular HTML parsers!)
<12> Dorward: I have an xhtml page, and I'm using innerHTML with it ... and it works fine in FF.
<12> But on the XHTML specs, it says innerHTML can't be used with XHTML#
<10> babo_: When you say "an xhtml page" do you mean "A text/html document with an XHTML DTD" or "An application/xhtml+xml document"?
<12> XHTML DTD
<10> Then its being treated as broken HTML, not as XHTML.
<12> Dorward: is HTML / innerHTML non-standard as well ?
<10> innerHTML is non-standard everywhere.
<12> k thanks
<13> cool
<13> extra $30 a month and COX'll allow me to run a server :p
<14> can someone please write a paper on SEO companies so I can send it to my partner so he stops sending me websites of companies that promise to optimize our website so I will be highly ranked on websites
<14> :-)
<13> Introduction: SEO is a myth
<13> Fin
<10> swimrr: "SEO companies sell snake oil. Just go WCAG"
<13> send him that
<14> wcag?
<13> `g wcag @ swimrr
<10> Web Content Accessibility Guidelines
<14> reisio: how does cox allow you to run a server?
<13> swimrr: you pay them $30 more and they give you the privilege
<8> do most browsers provide a tooltip for the title attibute?
<13> swimrr: they call it "business services"
<14> hmmmm
<13> since usually only businesses want it
<14> interesting
<13> $70 a month is the cheapest, here
<14> how is that different from a hosting plan?
<13> but we're already paying $40 for normal residential
<14> agreed
<13> swimrr: I can have the server in my room :p
<15> SEO isn't a myth
<13> sh1mmer: you're a myth
<15> but Dorward is right
<15> reisio: you mean legend
<15> :D
<14> sh1mmer: that they sell snake oil?
<13> sh1mmer: mythological winged bull**** :p
<14> that's what I tend to think
<14> reisio: why not buy your own server?
<10> There are things you can do to boost your position in search engines. Of those, some are evil, and most of the rest just come under the heading of "making the site accessible".
<15> swimrr: yes, lots of so called consultants are either lying bastards or black hats
<10> sh1mmer: YOU have SEO conferences?
<13> swimrr: I'm going to...and then I'm going to put it in my room
<15> and you shouldn't want to be ***ociated with either
<15> Dorward: SEO makes us big piles of cash
<14> isnt a valid page accessible?
<13> swimrr: moreso than one that isn't
<14> sh1mmer: how does it make wads of cash for you
<10> swimrr: Not automatically.
<10> sh1mmer: It does seem a litle ironic, but I see why it could be true.
<15> Dorward: I run the most visit page in Europe, anything we link to gets awesome rankings :)
<15> visited
<10> :)
<14> sh1mmer: that's not really SEO is it?
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