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<0> accidentaly closed irc
<0> did anyone answer?
<1> your question is not in my scrollback
<0> I went to a website, and suddenly my cpu was at 100% and didn't slow down after I closed the page
<0> I clicked on a flash movie...could that have done it?
<0> and I coudn't figure out which process to shut down in my task manager
<2> the browser
<1> well it's a bug, could be in anything really
<1> your browser, one of it's plugins or extensions
<0> hrm
<3> flash movies, if encoded incorrectly, can be horribly cpu intensive
<3> I think the recommendation is something like 15fps video
<4> flash video is evil
<4> really eats processor in a decent size



<4> mind you all video that is software decoded not using the decoder chips on the graphics cards is a hog
<3> I've overheated processors trying to run some flash movies
<3> youtube/google seem to do a good job, but people who encode their own don't
<4> mind you yes I've had worse with others
<5> Do you folks remember the name of that organized event where people launch redesigns of their site?
<6> TylerR: CSS Reboot
<7> 2006 ?
<5> Awesome thank you Dorward.
<5> I'm looking to organize something similar but for microformats.
<8> _W_, why not?
<1> instinct I guess
<1> it just smells like a bad idea, something like going back to html before the w3c
<5> Hmm, there isn't really much added besides a few cl***es and span elements.
<5> Oh and rel. :)
<5> Infact, rel="nofollow" is a lovely thing.
<1> it's more the fact that every person and their grandmother make their own microformat
<1> lots of people think, say, microsoft proprietary html, is lovely as well
<5> There are only 9 specifications and 11 draft pieces _W_. All of them are tended to by the same core people to some extent.
<1> TylerR, and who are these core people?
<5> http://microformats.org/about/people/
<5> A good number of the web "heavyweights" are behind the core specifications.
<1> seems to me like someone has realized the pandoras box is open and are buzy trying to put everything back into it
<5> How do you figure?
<1> once you accept that existing standards can be extended infinitely by adding magic values, you can't really say that some peoples magic values are allowed while others aren't
<1> like on http://microformats.org/about/ it says that "microformats are not ... infinitely extensible and open-ended"
<1> that's wishful thinking
<1> and the supposed purpose of being "for humans first, machines second" is not only a bad idea, but quite impossible as well; humans use machines
<1> everything is ultimately for humans, but the way to do that is to make it as accesible to software as possible
<5> I'd encourage you to come into #microformats and see what they're up to. They'd provide better feedback than me since I'm rather new to this stuff.
<1> I'm not sure I'd enjoy that
<1> the propaganda seems too thick for me to stomach
<9> hey can anyone have a guess why http://cubecart.cornwallinfo.com/cubecart/ there is a white line accross the top of this page in FF and Opera and IE7 there isn't. I dont want it there and cant figure out if its the template or the actual shopping cart system
<5> _W_: It's not propoganda when you're coming in with questions/concerns. They don't preach anything in there. They simply answer questions and offer their opinon.
<9> if i look in my css and also my html for the template i cant see anything which would make it happen
<5> uf isn't something being forced down anyone's throat you know. They're attributes. :)
<1> TylerR, I've no interest in getting converted. And the web is too big an entity for me to affect it.
<1> I'll just wait until the wave p***es the other way
<10> I just thought of a good analogy to explain OOP.. a key ring. My key ring has keys, a TV-B-Gone and a light.. the ring is the cl*** and it contains the other objects that do stuff.. I can do without the ring but the stuff's a lot easier to manage with it.
<1> "good"?
<10> :p
<1> I don't think analogies is the way to understand OOP
<10> It's not a good one?
<11> I like super heroes
<11> super heroes can mate and their children inherit powers
<1> besides sipher, OOP is much much more than simply cl***es and objects
<1> or even inheritance
<6> bewest: Argle. Multiple inheitance.
<10> Well, I learned using the car one.. it has wheels, engine etc.. and explains inheritence and stuff better
<11> but that was years ago
<1> (IMO inheritance has no place in OOP)
<1> well, not inheritance as it is used in most OO languages anyway
<1> my motto on that is "instantiate, don't subcl***"
<6> amount*
<6> ... 20% of the time.
<11> gah



<12> anyone here use Google Map API and know how to use GDownloadURL?
<12> im trying to p*** it a function that takes two args, data and a response code, but both are undefined in the body of the function!
<13> sipher: the key ring's nothing like a cl***
<10> deltab: Why not?
<13> sipher: cl***es there could include the design of the blank key template from which the keys are cut, and blueprints of the electronic devices
<13> the items are not instances of the key ring, and the key ring isn't a generalization of the things on it
<10> ok.. I still think it's an easy way to explain the basic concept to someone who knows nothing about it
<13> it's a different concept
<13> cl***es are about generalization, not containment
<13> instances are created by doing something with a cl***: keys are cut from blanks, devices are built from specifications, quadruplets develop from the same DNA
<14> Nanobot, FYI http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Jan/0121.html
<15> evening
<13> sipher: but the key ring doesn't create the keys on it
<16> webben: Yeah, I've gotten a couple feedback things on that. I'll correct it when I get around to it
<14> cool :)
<17> hi guys, is there any way to get a callback function to run without declaring the funciton inline i.e instead of function myfunction( arg1, function(arg2,arg3){alert("blah");})
<17> you have something like myfunction(arg1,myfunction(arg2,arg3) );
<4> function createCallback(arg2,arg3) { return function() { callback(arg2,arg3) }
<4> only like that
<13> function myfunction(arg2,arg3){alert("blah");}
<13> function myfunction( arg1, myfunction)
<13> StarScream: hmm, not sure what you mean exactly
<17> well i'd like a callback function to be an actual function i've defined elsewhere in the javascript
<4> just use the function name
<4> or if you need to p*** parameters to it you need a wrapper function
<17> JibberJim: can you explain what you mean by a wrapper function... do you mean myfunction( foo, callback(arg1,arg2) ); ?
<17> or do you mean myfunction( foo, function(){ callback(arg1,arg2); });
<4> a function that returns a function calling the one you want
<18> function wrapper(arg1, arg2) { return function() { callback(arg1, arg2); }; }
<4> yep
<4> often people p*** in the function to call to
<4> function wrap(func,arg1,arg2) { cal
<4> function wrap(func,arg1,arg2) { return function() { func(arg1,arg2); }
<4> wrap(cameFirst,'egg','chicken')
<17> insin: but how do you then call that from the function that expects the callback...basically i'm trying to avoid the myfunction(foo,function().. thing
<4> myFunction(foo,wrap(callingFunc,arg1,arg2))
<19> howdee... what's the recommended ssl certificate authority nowadays? recognized by browsers, cheap etc.
<3> godaddy?
<17> thanks JibberJim and insin
<19> godaddy is not compatible with all the browsers...
<19> or so i heard..
<7> compatible != compliant
<19> i wouldn't like a warning msg from a browser
<7> as proven by the IE equation
<19> and godaddy is not installed in some browsers by default
<3> just buy verisign then
<0> okay...my page won't validate because I've go B&B's in a <li>
<0> so I tried B&amp;B - still didn't work
<19> verisign would be 800$... was thinking something lower
<19> thawte is 180ish
<0> errr...forget it
<19> but if anyone had good experience with something else of a certificate. please share ;)
<3> godaddy ssl isn't for seamonkey or safari
<3> swimrr: care to share the validation link?
<0> paotzu: I figured it out
<0> must have been a slow refresh on the server or something me finks
<0> :p
<3> is that bed and breakfast? that industry needs a better search term
<10> GoDaddy's are $20/year.
<10> :p
<3> seamonkey and safari people can click a warning box for $780
<10> Anyone know if ffmpeg defaults to Sorenson Spark when encoding to flv or do you need a flag?
<19> hehe :)
<19> not quite so true
<19> makes your brand new shiny e-store looks like "fishy business"
<19> at least for that 1% of safari users
<19> entrust is 159$... is that compatible? :)
<19> lol... entrust certificates.... for us, uk & canada = 159$/year, international=299$/year.... is this a robbery or what?
<20> can i include a seperate html file in a div element?
<21> No, that's what an iframe is for.
<20> can i do it via javascript?


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