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<0> sweet
<1> xfce is always unstable for me
<2> intelikey, if less works for you, great. It doesn't for me. Embrace diversity. :)
<3> Could someone tell me how I can check user group?
<0> hmm i have never treid it
<1> H08- try it out and try to use the program "notes" see if it crashes on you like it always does for me
<4> veriz, id
<5> i didn't ask if you liked it njan just asked why you sujested it. but lets drop that now. k
<3> Seveas: thnx
<6> anyone here get dapper installed?
<2> intelikey, and then criticised my use of more, which is why I tried to explain to you why my way of doing things works for my usage pattern. but agreed, it's not productive. :)
<7> I do
<5> koasd yes
<0> i got it
<5> njan criticised ? no. unless you were also criticising my dislike of more.... but i don't thinks either of us were.
<0> ok i am installing all of the sfce files
<0> xfce*
<6> is it great?
<5> koasd no
<0> once it installs how i tell ubuntu to load up sfce instead of gnome?
<7> No problems over here
<2> intelikey more stinks
<5> it's good, it's linux. but great. no. it's not great.
<8> H080J03: when you go to log in, there are some options to pick which kind of session you want - xfce will be listed
<7> H080J03: do you use gdm?
<2> sounds critical to me. Anyhow, I suggest we drop it :)
<6> i am waiting for stable release
<0> gdm is....
<6> gnome desktop manager
<0> koasd drapper is very very stable
<8> koasd: gnome display manager
<5> njan yes. more stinks. has nothing to do with whether you use it or not. did you write the app?
<7> if you haven't changed your opening screen, the answer's probably yes and you'll be able to select it in session when you start up
<0> yes i use gnome
<0> hmm
<8> intelikey: #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to discuss the technical merits of more ;)
<6> gnome is stable
<7> gnome makes my 400mhz celeron cry
<5> Ng yes, there just doesn't seem to be a stoping place..... :/
<7> weeping computers are not a pretty sight
<6> why?
<9> intellikey: i added the output from xvidtune to xorg.conf - that didn't work. The display manager wouldn't start.
<10> less is more
<8> intelikey: yes there does, right now ;)
<11> hmmm
<11> :)
<5> spope sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<11> this feels wierd!
<5> DarkTower :)
<9> intelikey: thanks, I'll try it.
<11> wow...
<12> i use firefox from /opt/firefox and need to use /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to sort out flash sound, is this possible?
<5> spope that will walk you through a reconfig, that's the 'official' way to config xorg.
<11> "can i copy installed ubuntu packages and install them on another pc?"
<5> fanen yes.
<2> fanen, you can copy the .deb files, yes
<11> how,
<11> where are they loocated?
<8> fanen: /var/cache/apt/archives/
<2> fanen, /var/cache/apt/archives/
<7> spope: Take your output from xvidtune, add 'Modeline' at the front of it, and put it in the Monitor section of xorg.conf. ***uming you're moving your screen position, which reconfig won't do (I think)
<13> i'm following this howto http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html to install my Hauppauge WinTV 150 and MythTV on ubuntu. I have to copy some firmware files to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware but that folder does not excist. Should it?
<5> fanen the packages are dl'd to /var/cache/apt/archives/
<11> a moment.
<5> copy from there
<11> there now.
<2> fanen, then on the destination machine you can dpkg -i ./some-deb-file.deb
<5> Soir oh, is that just a slide over ? i missed that.
<11> there's a folder "partial", two deb files, and one "lock" file
<5> isn't there an app for that.
<11> intel?
<11> what app??
<5> fanen the partial/ leave it out. anything in there is broke anyway.
<2> fanen, then you're going to have to download the .deb files again if the two that are there aren't the ones you want.
<11> the previous ones were deleted?
<14> does anyone know how to detect spaces in bash script variables
<11> i thought apt would cache them...
<8> fanen: it should do, but it probably cleans up after itself after a while
<5> fanen yeah if you run apt-get clean or synaptic [click] clean they were rm's
<11> can i disable the cleaning?
<11> i want every deb for every package i install to be left intact...
<5> i always cp after dl fanen, so i don't have to dl again. (dial-up)
<11> hmmm
<6> application
<11> that's quite a requirement...
<8> fanen: if you have several machines to keep up to date, you might want to look at using something like apt-proxy
<15> hi all........is there any ftp where I can download the dapper stable release today??
<2> fanen, /etc/cron.daily/apt cleans automagically
<8> aztun: it's not released until thursday, so no
<11> oh, i need to edit it??
<2> if you prevent that cron script from running or remove the bits you don't want, you could prevent that.
<15> Ng: some distros put the iso on ftp the day before
<15> thats why Im asking
<2> fanen, more /etc/cron.daily/apt (intelikey, :P)
<15> maybe im lucky
<15> :)
<5> fanen set cron to mv rather than rm the files :)
<8> aztun: nope
<11> ok...oh
<11> i have no idea what's in there!!!
<11> "cron.daily/apt
<5> yep one would ***ume
<11> there's "rm" on line 100...
<11> would it be a bad idea if i were to replace all "rm" with "mv" with a search and replace?
<2> yes
<8> fanen: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in two lines, one with "APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval=0" and the other with "APT::Archives::MaxAge=0". you can also put in "APT::Archives::MaxSize=0" if you want too (don't include the quotes on any of the lines)
<2> because it wouldn't work.
<8> fanen: those variables are documented in that cron.daily/apt script
<11> lookin now...
<16> hi there, i was wondering if you can help me.. i have a wireless router where i am the only client. When i use Ktorrent or other p2p even though the connection band is not completely used at all (50kb/s in average) when i try to use http there's an incredibly high lag time and packet loss. Do you know how to increase the priority of HTTP packets in order to improve my situation?
<6> which browser do you use?
<17> i've got a problem with my system (6.06 LTS). since a few weeks i'm not able to shutdown or restart it. the only way is "sudo shutdown -r now". in the menu i just can logout and hibernate, the entrys for shutdown and restart are just missing. does anybody know what to do?
<5> fanen in the check age section of /etc/cron.daily/apt the rm -f to something like mv /root/tmp i'm not sure that will work that way. i'll test it.
<11> ng: done the edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
<18> where is sun-java5-jre in the packages? multi or uni?
<11> are my problems solved?
<2> intelikey, he'd be better off using the documented way within the script, rather than editing the script.
<11> intel: will "mv /home/fanen/debs" do?
<2> fanen, don't edit the script, read what Ng said and change the script the documented way.
<11> i've done what ng said.
<11> is that all i need to do?
<2> yes, that should prevent the bits of the script that do the rm -rf from running, if you've set those to 0.
<5> njan i don't see a "documented" way in the script i have.... ?
<2> intelikey, it's right at the top
<2> Set maximum allowed age of a cache package file. If a cache package file is older it is deleted (0=disable)
<19> I have changed my DNS server in System Administration Networking but the DHCP changes it back every boot. How can I make it stay?
<20> hoLA
<5> njan all i see is a way to disable the cleaning, is that what you are talking about ? that doesn't move them out of the cache dir or prevent a click in synaptic from rm'ing them.
<2> It doesn't prevent you from doing it in synaptic, but editing the script wouldn't either, and no, it doesn't move them out of thec ache dir.
<2> If you leave them in thec ache dir, apt knows where they are.
<2> so you can perform install/uninstall operations on the packages without having to know how to use dpkg -i.
<2> s/dpkg -i/dpkg/
<11> i will ***ume they won't be deleted anymore?
<21> hi
<11> i don't care where they reside... i just want to be able to copy them out, give them to someone who doesn't have net access, and let them install
<2> fanen, that looks how the script should behave, yes.
<5> apt doesn't need them to uninstall.
<2> intelikey, I know, but you know what I mean.
<8> jamey: I believe you can do that by editing /etc/dhclient.conf and inserting something like: supercede domain-name-servers "123.123.123.123 234.234.234.234" (where those numbers are your required DNS servers)
<22> I need a WYSIWYG editor for html, something like Frontpage, where can i find that?
<11> alright.
<23> Afief, try nvu.com
<23> Afief, or mizilla ocmposer
<22> Hmmm: i thought that program is obsolate, there haven't been updates for almost a year
<23> er,mozilla composer
<24> far out
<24> 0_0
<24> didn't take Ubuntu long to recognise my usb logitech headphones
<11> O-O
<23> Afief, these two programs are the best (and prolly only) apps for wysiwyg web stuff
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