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Comments:
<0> :-D
<1> rebooting now ;)
<2> Agrajag, I don'
<3> Surfnkid i like that.... :)
<4> ok :D
<2> Agrajag, I don't see "build-essential" in the Add Applications thing either...
<0> hehe
<5> twobitsprite: uh, Add Applications only lists desktop applications
<5> twobitsprite: you should be using Synaptic
<2> Agrajag, ahh...
<6> hello can someone help me with .fonts.config file ? I need to have my personal font configuration... my language is georgian.
<4> napoleon, my system is the same 1027700k total 916504k 111080k
<7> are the microsoft times new roman fonts in multiverse?
<4> its just the way linux manages memory
<4> the kernel grabs more memory than is needed and distrobutes it :) it is perfectly normal
<3> i've got an unbootable system that i just booted..... hehhe now how do i make it bootable ?
<4> intelikey, i ***ume you mean that you have lost Grub?
<4> and you want to install it?
<3> skippy no
<3> i don't have a usable initramfs.img skippy and i've rebuilt it five times.
<2> Napoleon, are you noticing any slowdown or thrashing? how does your cache look?
<1> skippy: worked! avis = back to nice n clear
<4> good
<8> twobitsprite: yeah it's really slow, two second delay using my brush on gimp
<1> skippy: ur a legend
<8> wap: 933724k total, 0k used, 933724k free, 567592k cached
<9> hi guys, I'm running on a regular install, but would like my ubuntu to load only to terminal, and then, at my choice, to be able to start x server manually... any calls?
<4> at some point it is worth doing a bit of research on your hardware, and seeing if there is a more suitable graphics driver
<10> bdunn: I haven't run Ubuntu on a server and don't have a ton of experience with it, but I'd like to point out that Ubuntu releases are based on Debian development and then fixed up
<4> good to know its allright now gronk :)
<1> skippy: yeah, will do
<10> bdunn: so if you would run debian stable on your server, Ubuntu might be a little too unstable for you
<1> well cya, I'm off - late 4 work as it is, cheers
<2> configure says: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
<11> linux_newbie2: Thanks. Good point.
<2> I don't see anything for x includes in synaptic under development
<5> twobitsprite: xorg-dev
<4> bdunn, i suggest you give dapper a couple of months to 'mature' and then try it
<12> hi. can one get a "proper" ver of dapper before june?
<4> it is pretty well supported by the community which is a bonus
<0> dude i can play streaming files too from the net thanks skippy
<0> www.nova969.com.au
<4> well cello_rasp, you can download release candidtate 1
<10> bdunn: I have to agree with skippy in general about the support
<4> on the 1st of june just run update and you will have a final version, cello :)
<4> debian seems to have become a bit quiet lately
<12> ah very simple. mature meaning security, bugfixes etc?
<3> cello_rasp yes
<2> aranjan, I don't see xorg-dev, and when I search for it, I see it listed on the left column, but not in the main selection panel...
<5> twobitsprite: just run apt-get install xorg-dev
<12> skippy, debian is generally quite quiet. they trundle along though. that's the cost of a 100% rock solid stable distro
<4> well basically, my point is that when any new OS comes out you want to wait a little while to see if it gets hacked etc
<5> well, sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
<4> but dapper is the final product now really
<2> Agrajag, hmm... that would work... I'd still like to think I could find it in synaptic... one of the reasons I switched to ubuntu was because it seems more modern with it's interfaces...
<4> a RC very rarely changes much, the only changes to dapper will be superficial, little icons etc
<5> twobitsprite: did you enable the universe repository?
<4> and chello_rasp i agree that debaian is a very solid distro
<12> if dapper is the matureation of the current ubuntu "generation", then i can't wait to see how eft will work
<2> Agrajag, I thought so...
<4> eft will be crazy
<13> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
<4> :)
<14> hey, is there an xgl install for ubuntu?
<5> Well, I promise you that that is the package name, I'm looking at it right now
<4> what i want to know is what the hell is an eft? :D
<15> !xgl
<16> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/";
<5> jrsims: there's a thread on the forums about xgl, one second...
<4> jrsims what is your platform
<12> skippy: i think its a baby newt
<15> skippy, it's a baby salamander
<10> skippy: if dapper is not going to be pushed back I think I will just skip it or wait 3 months
<4> hehe really?
<12> ah
<14> I'm on Breezy right now/
<4> how cool
<10> skippy: yeah, Mark talked about it
<5> jrsims: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
<4> i thought the Daper Drake was a dragon until i saw the silly little duck picture lol
<10> I ***umed that too
<17> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development
<15> there was a vote & the dragon lost out
<14> so is xgl on ubuntu pretty solid, or still "edgy"?
<0> hey skippy, i click on a streaming file online and asks what proggy to open with, defaults with totem but i want xmms to play it, so where is the folder that has the xmms proggy
<5> jrsims: I broke it trying to update it, so I'd say it's not stable
<15> jrsims, more than edgy, more like walking on the edge
<4> ok Surfnkid, that will be a firefox option most likely
<14> ah, too bad
<4> are you using "the fox"?
<5> Surfnkid: almost all of your binaries are in /usr/bin
<14> so wait, is dapper supposed to have solid xgl?
<2> Agrajag, what line would be in the sources.list for universe?
<4> jrsims, no definately not
<9> how can I 'detach' an application from the terminal that ran it, i.e., I run xmms from a terminal, if I ever at some point close that terminal, xmms dies...
<4> xgl is not officially supported on dapper
<14> what is dapper? just a dressed up breezy?
<12> argh.
<0> oh ok
<5> twobitsprite: I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe main restricted multiverse
<17> xmms &
<4> no Dapper is a real redistb
<4> its been worked from the ground up
<4> it is very different to breezy
<9> IcemanV9: that doesn't do the job....
<3> ok let me post my question, the kernel and initramfs.img boot to an emergency 'busybox' shell where i have to modprobe aic7xxx & ext2 then mknod /dev/sda1 and mount the system on /root then exit and it goes ahead and boots. well at least far enough i can fix the rest in the init scripts... anyway, how the heck to i automate that three step process in the initramfs ?
<14> skippy: oh, will I have to reinstall over breezy?
<4> jrsims, you can upgrade if you want to
<4> but it can go wrong, i estimate in about 5% of cases
<4> so you want to be backed up 1st
<14> skippy: not bad
<2> skippy, then what would I see in sources.list that would include xorg-dev?
<8> twobitsprite: any ideas?
<12> jrsims: to include many of the software upgrades they need to be teweaked and bugfixed. you couldn't just throw on a new version of gnome you see.
<2> Napoleon, nope, sorry
<2> Napoleon, you could try vanilla debian
<17> Masqy: it works find on my box.
<12> well, not without it probably breaking
<18> How long should it take to resize a ext3 filesystem from 250G to 100G? My system is taking forever.
<17> Masqy: xmms still runs when i closed the terminal
<9> Icemanv9: in mine it gracefully dies :(
<2> Napoleon, I don't want to discourage you though... I'm sure there's a rational explanation, I just don't know what it is...
<4> twibitsprite xorg-dev is an officially supported package
<3> mikedouglas forever and a day.
<4> it will be in the main repository of your version of ubuntu
<2> skippy, "E: Couldn't find package xorg-dev"
<4> hmm
<17> Masqy: hm. let me see ...
<5> twobitsprite: have you run apt-get update?
<2> last night... I'll try again
<15> cello_rasp, yeah, it is a tightly tied distro. Partially intentional, partly desperation, I think
<18> intelikey: good, as long as it'll finish before the Vista release.
<5> well, last night and today won't change much, something's wrong
<3> :)
<15> s/desperation/insparation/
<12> heh
<5> you're not still using hoary or something are you?
<12> i'm kind of saddened about the xgl being unofficial but then using breezy gnome feels kind of broken in places anyway.
<4> twobitsprite open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
<17> Masqy: i don't know what to say. it just simply works on mine. i cannot see how to troubleshoot. sorry. :/
<7> in breezy what is the package name for X?
<5> xserver-xorg
<12> question about compiz: if it is a window manager, would it conflict with people wanting stuff like e17's apple-like launcherbar?
<9> IcemanV9: you open a new terminal, simply type 'xmms &' then quit the terminal, and the xmms still runs?
<17> Masqy: yes
<19> hi
<19> i installed java in /jdk1.5.0_07
<19> how to set path
<9> IcemanV9: but what if you press the 'X' icon of the terminal ?
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