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<nico525> hi
<nico525> german or englisch?
<graham> english
<nico525> ok
<nico525> äh when i install ubuntu does it instal grub too?
<gerst> or hungarian :)
<Rexbron> yes
<gerst> yes
<Rexbron> at least it should
<drelch> @ Apoll013 : a great now it works. thx a lot
<nico525> because i want to have windows an ubuntu on my computer
<Mabus06> in default install it does
<howcomes> I really need to get this fixed! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=689874&postcount=284 - attempting to apt-get remove outside of KDE didnt work either.
<Mabus06> nico525: install windows first
<nico525> k
<nico525> im now in windows
<Rexbron> make sure that you install windows and ubuntu on seperate partitions
<nico525> yes
<gerst> first make a new partition
<gerst> with part. magic or somehting similar
<Rexbron> that can be done in the installer
<nico525> because that i must clean my HD because its too full
<nico525> for linux
<nico525> -o
<Rexbron> partition about 10 gigs for ubuntu and 2-5 gigs asa swap
<gerst> can you take some space off from a windows partition with the installer?
<nico525> when i want to save my iles on my extern HD which format it must bee?
<welp_lappy> bloody hell
<gerst> 2-5 g. for swap?
<nico525> fat32 ot?
<nico525> or
<Rexbron> fat 32 or ext3 both will work
<welp_lappy> i'm strange... i've just done a net install of suse, and now i'm installing ubuntu...
<SieuW> hi
<nico525> hi
<welp_lappy> hey
<welp_lappy> who knows if amsn works?
<Rexbron> welcome, got a problem?
<nico525> thx yes i want 5 GB for swap;) your right but how much for ubuntu? because all tzhe programs i will safe on my extern HD
<nico525> the*
<graham> who would need 5gb for swap?
<graham> im happy with 370mb
<howcomes> I'm using 150mb for swap
<nico525> i down't know how much it need...
<welp_lappy> 5GB?!? O
<graham> depends on ur ram
<howcomes> thats just cuz the partition was there, got lost in translation wasnt gonna do anything better with it
<SieuW> How do i install software in Lunix?
<graham> ram x 2 = swap usually
<howcomes> SieuW
<SieuW> yes?
<howcomes> use the Adept Package Manager
<welp_lappy> nico525: how much RAM do you have?
<nico525> then i need 2GB swap...
<SieuW> its a tar.gz file
<welp_lappy> ok
<sorush20> what button do I have to press to start terminal from nutilus directory?
<recon00> sieuW, use system->admin->synaptic
<nico525> but next time i want to buy 1 more GB ram
<gerst> i have 512ram and 512 swap.. works great
<graham> thats a pretty good estimate
<gerst> i barely use my swap at all
<Apoll013> nico525: that's plain nonsense... ramsize x 2 is a good rule of thumb, although more than 2 G of RAm+Swap should be enough
<SieuW> i dont have that, I am running Ubuntu
<welp_lappy> hmm, i'm glad i don't have a new mac with 16Gb swap *whistle*
<welp_lappy> hum... 16Gb RAM sorry
<graham> and 16gb of ram for
<graham> oh
<nico525> i use 4GB for swap...
<graham> and it costs like 10k for ram
<welp_lappy> 32Gb swap partition... :S
<graham> lol
<howcomes> I really need to get this fixed! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=689874&postcount=284 - attempting to apt-get remove outside of KDE didnt work either. (Going to have to reinstall today if i cant get it fixed)
<gerst> my whole drive will be swap :D
<graham> haha
<welp_lappy> lol
<nico525> lol
<nico525> ok i clean my HD
<nico525> thx
<nico525> cu
<welp_lappy> howcomes: did you do init 3 as root then apt-get remove kde?
<Apoll013> howcomes: MY personal solution was to sell my ATI card and get an Nvidia one ...
<recon00> does anybody know how to install the ps2 eyetoy as a webcam for ubuntu?
<howcomes> i did Init 1
<Apoll013> ATI is simply stupid in providing Linux drivers
<welp_lappy> hmm.. depends on the distro.. :S
<welp_lappy> :)
<kipper> I got a problem... I am new in linux and i don't know how to install java... can someone hlp me?
<howcomes> I've got a Nvidia card as well, but my roomate is using it....(nVidia Geforce 4 MX4000 or this ATi Radeon 9200 SE)
<phiber_optic> hi can someone help me... I ssh my universities server and I cannot open anything in display mode..not even amsn
<recon00> kipper, see http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian
<howcomes> welp_lappy, why the hell would i want to remove kde ?
<Frogzoo_away> !tell kipper about java
<welp_lappy> phiber_optic: are you sure you're allowed to ssh into your uni's server?
<phiber_optic> yeap
<Frogzoo_away> !tell howcomes about fglrx
<Frogzoo_away> !tell howcomes about nvidia
<welp_lappy> howcomes: i saw apt-get remove and kde on the same line and...
<welp_lappy> i dislike KDE so....
<welp_lappy> ;)
<howcomes> I dislike Gnome so....
<howcomes> ;)
<phiber_optic> before when i had fedora I was able to open everything, but know it seems like there is a problem with xwindow
<recon00> Can you install the PS2 eyetoy as a webcam on Ubuntu?
<graham> probably
<graham> if it has a usb connector
<recon00> it does
<recon00> graham, can you tell me how?
<graham> has anybody made any windows drivers for it?
<welp_lappy> recon00: there ought to be loads of howtos online :)
<versaily> !tell versaily about codecs
<graham> if someone has made windows drivers then there is likely to be linux ones
<recon00> graham, yes, see http://www.ionstorm.co.uk/files/sairuk/index.shtml
<welp_lappy> !tell welp_lappy enter
<phiber_optic> welp_lapy any ideas?
<howcomes> anywho, its sleepy time for me - cya all later
<recon00> graham, there doesn't seem to be any
<phiber_optic> I get the following error
<phiber_optic> *ERROR* X Window Display Initialization failure
<phiber_optic> *WARNING* X Window Display Initialization failure
<graham> can any1 tell me y ubuntu wont recognise my drive? i intstalled it after setting ubuntu up
<welp_lappy> whoa...
<pdr> graham: what sort of drive?
<welp_lappy> i just took 2+ hours to install suse, and i just installed ubuntu in a few minutes :D
<graham> its a harddrive
<gerst> suse comes with a more programs
<phiber_optic> :)
<gerst> and kde+gnome+etc
<graham> ubuntu wont let me mount it
<phiber_optic> before when i had fedora I was able to open everything, but know it seems like there is a problem with xwindow?
<pdr> graham: you'll need to format it first
<gerst> what drive?
<recon00> graham, what's the error?
<gerst> its a new hdd?
<graham> nah its been formated and it has data
<graham> i want to get the data
<gerst> edit your fstab
<pdr> does it turn up in /dev ?
<graham> device not found in fstab or mtab
<gerst> edit your fstab
<Apoll013> gerst: suse might be fine for noobs, but if u really wanna have fun with linux, go for something else....
<phiber_optic> hi can someone help me... I ssh my universities server and I cannot open anything in display mode..not even amsn
<pdr> it won't automatically have a mount poin
<gerst> I used suse for years, now I use ubuntu :D
<gerst> but now im stacked with this **** mandriva
<pdr> graham: what does "ls /dev/hd*" tell you?
<Apoll013> ...eeeeaaaaaa
<pdr> i ***ume it's ide..
<pdr> not scsi
<gerst> mandriva ****s :D


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