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Comments:
<Toma-> thierry, make a cron job
<thierry> toma: yes but cron will launch only if machine is up... I would like something like anacron, but this later looks to be only for root
<Frogzoo> Hivemind: you'll need to edit /etc/group - find the 'admin' line & add your username
<lampi> so are this the packages wich arent in breezy?
<Frogzoo> lampi: they're 'in' breezy - but not part of the base install
<Toma-> thierry, ...if the PC is off, by bother backing up? :)
<lampi> ah, k thx
<gnomefreak> lampi: universe and multiverse are repos that allow you to get more packages for ubuntu
<Frogzoo> Hivemind: ping?
<Zom> Frogzoo: Why not just add his user to the admin group?
<Toma-> Frogzoo, he has no admin group :|
<thierry> Toma-: if I set cron at 20:00, but use it during one week never at this time...
<Frogzoo> Toma-: no way... ? really ? cool...
<Hoobo> I installed Ubuntu 5.10, and it placed my windows drives on the desktop, but I do not have permission to access these. Logging in via root, I cannot give permission to my user account either, because "the file is read only"... so how can I acess these mounts?
<Zom> Toma-: groupadd :)
<redblade> okay that's nearly finished.
<Frogzoo> Hoobo: you cannot write to ntfs drives - the driver doesn't support it
<Eds> System -> Administration -> disks
<Toma-> thierry, theres a cron type that backs up as soon as the PC is past the time... theres another one that can even turn your pc on
<Toma-> i forget what theyre called tho :(
<redblade> Doe's anyone know of a good c++ compiler and a BASIC compiler?
<Zom> Hoobo: You could mount them as rw, but then you could **** them up bad
<Frogzoo> Hoobo: unless they're fat or fat32, it can't be done
<lampi> GCC
<Eds> redblade, GCC ?
<kosnick> hallo , is there something wrong with www.ubuntu.com ? I get "the connection was refused when attempting to connecto www.ubuntu.com" every time i try to get there .
<Hoobo> I don't want to write to them, just read the contents.
<lampi> gnu c compiler
<Toma-> Zom, in theory, but it wont get all the permissions that it should, i ***ume.
<redblade> I thought GCC was C
<Frogzoo> !tell Hoobo about ntfs
<lampi> no, c++ too
<Zom> Toma-: Like what?
<persia> redblade: g++
<redblade> oh cool
<thierry> Toma-: which kind of cron? I've read man cron, but nothing looks like...
<hyphenated> g++ for compiling c++ programs
<Eds> HooBo: System -> Administration -> disks
<Frogzoo> Hivemind: ping?
<Toma-> Zom, 1 moment.
<hyphenated> and BASIC is pretty much non-existant
<lampi> does gcc only compile c? i used it for c++ too
<lampi> @hyphenated
<persia> There' a couple BASIC interpreters: try `aptitude search basic`
<enot> hello! I added my windows into lilo.conf they i run lilo to flush everything. It shows me: "Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure" and nothing changes
<Frogzoo> lampi: g++ is for c++
<enot> *then
<Toma-> thierry, http://tcron.sourceforge.net/
<anagramarama> For basic, I use Gambas http://gambas.sourceforge.net/
<lampi> frogzoo: yes, but do they use the same command? i only use gcc
<Frogzoo> enot: ubuntu uses grub, not lilo ...
<hyphenated> lampi: it fails miserably when I try to use 'gcc' to compile a C++ program
<anagramarama> though mono is worth considering for vb.net compatibility
<thierry> Toma-: thx, i'll have a look
<hyphenated> lampi: however, the failures are in the link phase
<Zom> Frogzoo: That is incorrect, It uses what you install with it
<gnomefreak> hyphenated: install g++ for c++
<kosnick> is there something wrong with www.ubuntu.com?
<lampi> hyphenated: ? k then g++
<Zom> Frogzoo: And it's easy to switch
<enot> Frogzoo, but lilo loads my ununtu. i saw that
<Toma-> thierry, np
<gnomefreak> build-essential has g++ iirc
<redblade> So will i need to do anything else now that it is installed?
<hyphenated> gnomefreak: lampi was trying to convince me that he got gcc to compile c++ code
<lampi> @hyphenated: sry for the wrong info
<Toma-> build-exxential doesnt have g++ :(
<jebus> hey all its me again :) habha
<Toma-> +ss
<gnomefreak> ty Toma-
<Toma-> :)
<Frogzoo> lampi: c++ is a superset for c - so you might just get lucky compiling with gcc, but that's only because you're not using c++ features
<jebus> in nero to burn the installer iso correctly do i choose to burn it as an image?
<hyphenated> jebus: yes
<jebus> ok thnx
<lampi> frogzoo: yes, maybe cause of this.. :)
<enot> so how to get my ms windows available for boot ?
<Hivemind> Frogzoo: Sorry, I thought that I should do some background reading. I was reading up on su/sudo/sudoers and the CLI
<gnomefreak> jebus: burn as an iso there sould be a tab that brings you to iso settings
<Hivemind> Still away.
<redblade> I installed g++ but where is it?
<blekos> hello
<thierry> all: one maybe stupid question: what is the default grpid of a user on default ubuntu install ? same as <login> or <users>. A 'ls -l' in $HOME dir should tell you. I ask this because I think I've missed something in install, and my grpid is same as my login, and wanted to check if this is right or this should be <users>
<hyphenated> redblade: should be /usr/bin/g++
<gnomefreak> redblade: if its installed you should be able to compile with it now
<hyphenated> redblade: if you have a foo.cc, you can sometimes just say 'make foo' and it works out what to do
<lampi> hyphenated: i am to slow :)
<blekos> can you tellm how i can edit the system menu at the top bar?
<blekos> i have menu editro but it only shows the applications menu
<lampi> hyphenated: dont you have to write a makefile first?
<Frogzoo> thierry: 1000
<hyphenated> lampi: not always
<ubunto_noob> anyone know, there a chance of getting some kind of flash dev running on ubuntu?
<hyphenated> lampi: 'make' has some default rules it'll use in lieu of a Makefile
<redblade> I can see the file but nothing has happened when i clicked
<thierry> Frogzoo: is it same as <login> ?
<gnomefreak> redblade: what are you trying to do?
<hyphenated> redblade: it's not an interactive program
<vladuz976> what's the exectuable to start openoffice writer?
<hyphenated> vladuz976: oowriter, probly
<lampi> hyphenated: make is bigger than i think of it, thx
<redblade> no but if i write code do i just save it as a .cpp?
<Frogzoo> thierry: I wouldn't worry about it unless you've played around with groups
<gnomefreak> redblade to use g++ you compile with it like g++ file.cpp -o file iirc
<anagramarama> or oowriter2
<hyphenated> redblade: you're in dire need of a howto ;-)
<vladuz976> hyphenated: no doesn't work. that was for openoffice 1
<vladuz976> anagramarama: no also doesn't work
<gnomefreak> redblade: yes c++ is saved as cpp
<redblade> I konow i am... I'm completely lost out here in linux
<thierry> Frogzoo: yes rsync was lost with groups, and reported so many errors
<gnomefreak> !c++
<sweet_kate> !thunderbird
<ubotu> from memory, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation. To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
<anagramarama> vladuz976: try ls /usr/bin/oo*
<sweet_kate> !news
<sweet_kate> !newsreader
<ubotu> Not a clue, sweet_kate
<vladuz976> anagramarama: nothing with oo
<Toma-> or type oo and hit tab a few times?
<gnomefreak> redblade: if i were you i would google a c++ guide
<vladuz976> Toma-: i k now. but there is nothing with oo
<Frogzoo> sweet_kate: there's pan
<sweet_kate> Frogzoo: hii: i tried it but it slow almost times
<Toma-> vladuz976, have you got openoffice installed?
<chalcedony> digitizing audio tapes .. how with what?
<vladuz976> Toma-: yeah soffice works
<sweet_kate> it stalls when i click on an article
<enot> nobody knows everything about c++
<gnomefreak> soffice is still around?
<sweet_kate> Frogzoo: i use news.tin.it
<Frogzoo> sweet_kate: not pan's fault - the problems @ the server
<johndarkhorse> sweet_kate: define slow? my pan runs as fast as my connection
<vladuz976> gnomefreak: yeah
<vladuz976> gnomefreak: but i wanna get a starter for just the writer
<Toma-> what the heck is soffice?
<gnomefreak> i thought they stopped making it :(
<gnomefreak> star office
<redblade> so is this the right command? g++ file.cpp -o file iirc
<sweet_kate> johndarkhorse: Frogzoo so is there a free news server?
<Frogzoo> Toma-: staroffice - it's the basis of open office
<vladuz976> Toma-: exectuable for openoffice2
<Toma-> oh
<gnomefreak> leave the iirc off
<anagramarama> edit the menu and find out the cmd line
<johndarkhorse> sweet_kate: there are dozens of free news servers
<Frogzoo> sweet_kate: hundreds - search for 'open nntp' on google
<johndarkhorse> sweet_kate: but you get what you pay for
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