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<kash> adriyel: i got flooded by him.
<paperbaghead> adriyel read the COde of Conduc, you PoS. Did SABDFL die and apoint you ubuntu god?
<omac> sirgrim: console is not boring at all...in fact, I use it a lot through emacs. Even MAC OS X is a bsd derived OS and it also has terminal(console). The trick in MAC OS is that they hide it well from end users :)
<paperbaghead> kash -- BS -- I've never talked you in my life.
<paperbaghead> You're startign aflame war
<kash> so, because of "orage, lsb, lsb-graphics", xubuntu-desktop will not install via aptitude or otherwise.
<kash> paperbaghead: i meant in the channel with your block of text
<paperbaghead> adriyel, who are you? Do you have any sort authorityy here?
<adriyel> paperbaghead, the code of conduct of this channel also dictates that you do not spam the channel, period. thats what pastebin is for.
<sirgrim> omac: learned that b4 x was even official, used fbsd loooooong time ago when i was kickin it w/ os/2 warp instead of windows31
<xerophyte> what is the deal with Automatix ???
<adriyel> I am not appointing myself dictator, I am trying to remind you of the rules before an op does you bloody ingrate
<benz> quick question
<paperbaghead> adriyel, so y9our'r being vigilante -- I thought so.
<adriyel> if you'd like an Op to notify you instead of myself I can arrange that, otherwise, shut up, drop it, move on
<xerophyte> if i understand correctly its just another apt-get with different setup source.lists am i right ??
<benz> I was trying to install 5.10 on my external, USB hard drive
<kash> paperbaghead: usually, when people tell you to mind the rules, you do it or suffer the consenquenses.
<adriyel> paperbaghead, I was trying to remind/inform and save you some h***le, stop being an ingrate
<omac> sirgrim: don't mean to offend. I just mean to say the terminal still adds value if you know how to use it.
<paperbaghead> BTW, how do you know English is not my second language and who are you to lecture me on how I typed a question.
<phiberacid> adriyel is a pretentious ****head know-it-all, who in all reality, is probably some three-hundred-pound fat*** thirty-five year-old virgin douche who still lives at home with his parents, and collects comic books. tonight, he has *********ed one too many times and feels compelled to act like a hyper-active gentoo troll
<benz> can someone help me with GRUB
<adriyel> paperbaghead, whatever, the rules are the rules, I didn't make them, I was trying to help. you're going to behave however you like, its not my problem anymore
<paperbaghead> Why don't you come to #ubuntu-offtopic and tell us what gives you the right???
<benz> i cant get a fusking word in edgewise with the nonsense in here
<phiberacid> bring the ops- arrange it. i'm scared.
<kash> paperbaghead: oh _god_. drop the whole damn thing and get on with your question, in multiple sentences.
<adriyel> paperbaghead, you're being ridiculous
<sirgrim> omac: oh yeah, i use it plenty when I need to configure stuff or my gui crashes and something needs fixed, not offended i like my eye candy like i like my boobies
<benz> if anyone can help me manually edit GRUB please PM
<n00b> heyg uys
<adriyel> paperbaghead, it has nothing to do with my rights, I was trying to be helpful and remind you
<n00b> im trying to mount an NTFS partiton
<n00b> /dev/sda1 /mnt/Main ntfs noauto,ro 0 0
<n00b> that is what i am using
<n00b> but its not working
<paperbaghead> Just STFU please, (or come to #ubuntu-offtopic and explain yourself)
<n00b> what should i do
<adriyel> you got rude from that point on, so quite frankly, you can fsck yourself, understood?
<kash> adriyel: just ignore him and let him get banned by a superior
<benz> holy **** you little kids
<adriyel> kash, indeed. annoying nonetheless
<benz> shut up
<benz> take it somewhere else
<sirgrim> n00b: here's my fstab for ntfs, /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,umask=0222 0 0
<n00b> sirgrim, thx mate... does yours show up in My Computer?
<mcdenyer> how do i know if i installed firefox 1.5 correctly?
<sirgrim> n00b and desktop
<adriyel> mcdenyer, check the about menu
<n00b> sirgrim, thx
<sirgrim> and the umask=0222 will give u right to browse
<paperbaghead> has anyone seen a dapper dist-upgrade affect network (config, not executeable) files?
<adriyel> sirgrim, did the wiki have a FAQ about this?
<sirgrim> adriyel: don't think so, why?
<benz> ok back to what i was saying: I installed 5.10 on my external USB HD up until the GRUB config step
<benz> but it wont boot now
<adriyel> sirgrim, I vaguely remembering having this problem, and coming across a wiki for it
<n00b> sirgrim, how about for vfat drives? do i need to use the umask ?
<sirgrim> my system's starting to resemble ubuntu less and less lol
<benz> it says missing operating system
<sirgrim> n00b: don't have any vfat
<n00b> sirgrim, ok
<benz> anyone
<adriyel> paperbaghead, not to kid you, but I've seen a dist-upgrade break a lot of things, I would say a network config is within the realm of possibility, although I can't recall a particular incident
<benz> am i on silent mode or something
<benz> wtf
<adriyel> I never got the inkling to dist-upgrade, so i cannot speak from personal experience
<adriyel> benz, what?>
<kash> paperbaghead: it could have broken mine. dunno, haven't rebooted yet :P
<mcdenyer> adriyel, the link for firefox on my panel is still the old icon though
<paperbaghead> Okay, does anyone have any recommendations for validating dapper binaries or checking for a rootkit?
<sirgrim> benz: yes you are, here's your sign.
<LiteHedded> where's the hosts file in linux??
<kash> benz: question?
<benz> need help configuring GRUB for the 5th time
<adriyel> mcdenyer, right-click, properties, change the command to wherever firefox-1.5 is
<kash> !tell benz about grub
<adriyel> for example ~/firefox-1.5/firefox
<paperbaghead> benz, what specifically is your trouble with GRUB?
<benz> i apparently put it on the wrong partition on my external drive
<benz> and it wont boot it
<adriyel> *tilts head*
<Himel> Is there a difference in the drivers included between Ubuntu and Kubuntu 5.10?
<kash> benz: what partition is it
<benz> i had to manually put it on sda
<adriyel> set your BIOS to boot from the external drive, or copy the /boot to your local drive
<[FR33_B33R]> OH... after Quake 3... i just cant do without mouse acceleration :)
<benz> i put it on /dev/sda1
<kash> i.e. hd[a-z][1-9] ?
<sirgrim> edit /boot/menu/grub.lst
<benz> i think it needs to be on the MBR of the external drive
<mcdenyer> adriyel, well it loads firefox 1.5 but the icon i click to open it is still the same
<benz> how can i do that
<adriyel> sda tends to be either SATA or external something
<Himel> Because Ubuntu is detecting the wifi adaptors I'm using here on my machines, but Kubuntu isn't.
<paperbaghead> benz, do you have a spare partition (one you can overwrie) cause I have a 'fast and dirty solution' if you don't want to or can't fix it the 'hard way'
<benz> i cant even get into a prompt
<kash> benz: check ubotu's PM
<adriyel> mcdenyer, oh, click the icon in properties and point to whereever the icon is
<benz> ok
<sirgrim> ah
<sirgrim> you could format the current mbr
<sirgrim> to see if you can bip*** it
<paperbaghead> benz, can you boot at all -- i.e with another device or the install CD?
<benz> yeah
<benz> here's my setup, its kind of complicated
<adriyel> indeed. lol
<paperbaghead> If it's more than three lines, I think many people woulkd appreciate us usuing pastebin
<sirgrim> they always are *mumble*
<benz> Thinkpad with internal hard drive, only WinXP on it (running it fine now), internal CD ROM, and finally the use drive
<benz> USB drive
<paperbaghead> ubotu, tell benz about pastebin
<adriyel> paperbaghead, indeed. :)
<kash> hahaha
<adriyel> *chuckles*
<benz> I was able to install Ubintu fine from the setup to my USB drive
<kash> bin. it's getting in his head.
<benz> it never touched my heard drive
<adriyel> benz, did your fingers go into a dimensional shift and slow down or something?
<benz> huh?
<adriyel> it took you that long to type that?
<adriyel> we were expecting a monster dude
<sirgrim> lol
<benz> i **** dude
<kash> adriyel: rofl
<benz> haha
<sirgrim> *pictures his boss peck typing*
<kash> benz: that's... uhh..
<adriyel> yeah, but like 10 seconds later, you typed a whole sentence already
<paperbaghead> pfeh -- whatever we need to do to first of all keep the peace so we can get on with building a comminity of free computing humans
<benz> man its 3am cut me some slack
<bud_resin> kash: you still here?
<kash> bud_resin: no.
<kash> :)
<adriyel> benz, it's 03:14 for me too...I'm still alive
<xerophyte> Does anybody now how can i get the paper to show the application icons .. now it just show the blank windows there ???
<Protocol1> you must be on the east coast
<bud_resin> kash: i got errors building
<adriyel> but then again, I have insomnia...
<mcdenyer> adriyel, lol i have no idea where 5that is
<kash> it's 1:14PM here.
<arvuti> how y open exe files in linux????????
<Protocol1> its 11 pm here
<adriyel> mcdenyer, do you remember where you installed it?
<mcdenyer> adriyel, i followed a tut
<[FR33_B33R]> arvuti, wine
<deFrysk> arvuti, normally spoken, you dont
<kash> bud_resin: building.....? i forget easilly.
<benz> well anyway, i just need to somehow get in to the USB drive's partition tables or whatever, and put GRUB on it's MBR


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