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Comments:
<kash> the fglrx drivers should make your card nice and poopy.
<mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, helllo?
<bud_resin> lol poopy or poppy?
<sirgrim> poop
<sirgrim> lol
<Timberwolf_42> Ok I'll try again some other time apperantly the help sector with experience in creating bootable cd's isn't alive at this time
<that_weasel> Timberwolf_42: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/bootcd-2.6-udev-nptl.txt
<Timberwolf_42> ahhh ty ty
<xerophyte_> so where do i find the source.list
<nanotube> /etc/apt/sources.list
<xerophyte_> for new softwares like firefox 1.5 and new version of gaim
<eXSiR> use ubuntuforums.org for firefox and gaim 2.0 cvs
<nanotube> xerophyte, firefox 1.5 and gaim2 are not available in the repositories.
<eXSiR> there are howtos
<nanotube> !tell xerophyte about ff1.5
<adriyel> nanotube, they are in portage ;)
<psilikon> ok new kernel worked
<adriyel> psilikon, thats a good sign
<psilikon> man this SMP kernel is soooo friggin fast wow! no not really
<corza> hey can someone help me out with nvidia glx drivers?
<eXSiR> kernel compling is very easy if u know about ur hardware
<xerophyte> I thought Ubuntu is bleeding ege ;)
<eXSiR> :))
<mcdenyer> how do i install a .tar.gz
<kash> tar -xvzf
<psilikon> nanotube, thanks for the guidance, you get one gold star for todays activity :)
<midwinter> xerophyte, not really
<adriyel> psilikon, you'll notice the diff with multi-threaded applications, and multi-tasking
<Timberwolf_42> Ok now I'm even more confused...
<nanotube> adriyel, portage... thats a gentoo thing aint it. :)
<kash> !tar
<LiteHedded> sorry corz I'm an ati guy
<psilikon> adriyel, sound logical
<kash> !tell mcdenyer about tar
<adriyel> xerophyte, dude...Ubuntu is debian based. compared to debian which uses software from 3 years ago, Ubuntu practically doesn't exist yet
<bud_resin> kash: what about the breezy-seveas packages?
<nanotube> xerophyte, sorry, ubuntu is a "reasonably stable" edge, not the "bleeding edge" :)
<adriyel> Ubuntu is stable but relatively new
<kash> bud_resin: you're better off building your own :P
<corza> nvidia glx drivers... could anyone help me out with configuring xorg and everything because my X won't boot when i change it to nvidi
<kash> it's easy
<Timberwolf_42> Is it actually easier and more efficient to create cd's thru windows then it is thru ubuntu?
<sirgrim> psilikon: what kernel u compile?
<xerophyte> adriyel debian does has unstable repo where can you get new version
<adriyel> you want bleeding edge? ./configure && make && make install
<bud_resin> kash: why though?
<psilikon> i would like to find a benchmark with a database of hardware configs i could compare my system to
<adriyel> xerophyte, unstable is called unstable for a reason
<kash> bud_resin: fresh modules
<xerophyte> nanotube i hate to install from source deb will be good
<adriyel> I've broken debian with sid
<xerophyte> adriyel so i need to compile the gaim 2 too
<adriyel> nanotube, I see you caught my dig on ubuntu :P
<psilikon> sirgrim, once i compiled 2.6.14 on a suse system... well actually more than once
<kash> psilikon: start one on the wiki or something
<adriyel> xerophyte, pretty much. unless they provide another way
<corza> Seveas are you here at the moment?
<nanotube> xerophyte, you can probably google for firefox and gaim .debs for ubuntu...
<sirgrim> psilikon: didn't you just compile a new one?
<adriyel> unofficial repo, a provided .deb, compile it yourself
<adriyel> theres more than one way to install something in Linux
<nanotube> adriyel, hehe yea :) the reason i am with ubuntu is... it deteced all my hardware out of the box. thats a rare thing, for a laptop.
<psilikon> sirgrim, no sir. just installed a package... 2.6.12-10 amd64-k8-smp
<sirgrim> psilikon: ahh cool
<kash> what the hell, xubuntu won't install.
<adriyel> nanotube, I don't use pure Gentoo, I use vidalinux...good hardware detection, EXCELLENT for laptops, includes ndiswrapper and everything
<corza> Anyone in here Help me out with Nvidia-GLX drivers?
<xerophyte> adriyel i am not big fun of compiling stuff i like to keep it all deb so i can upgrade them easy
<adriyel> if ubuntu works, stick wit' it though
<adriyel> xerophyte, portage provides binaries so that you don't have to compile mate
<sirgrim> psilikon: went to the 2.6.15 yesterday ;) big different installing kernels on ubuntu than suse
<adriyel> I should really stop being apologetic for Gentoo :|
<kash> !tell corza about nvidia
<nanotube> psilikon, well, you are not gonna see much difference, unless you are doing something that is specifically made to take advantage of dual core. or if you run two cpu-intensive processes simultaneously, or something like that.
<xerophyte> adriyel portage ???
<psilikon> sirgrim, really how is it?
<corza> kash, i've tried that
<adriyel> source compiles and long installs are both optional in gentoo
<adriyel> xerophyte, portage is the packaging system in gentoo, based off of FreeBSD's ports system
<kash> adriyel: i've used almost every OS.
<corza> my X doesn't boot when it's changed to 'nvidia'
<adriyel> kash, so have I. welcome to the club.
<kash> every distro, also.
<adriyel> ditto.
<xerophyte> adriyel is it available for Ubuntu too ???
<sirgrim> psilikon: there's some pkgs to make it into your own .deb and install from there with the make/makeinstall and all that done for you, and a /boot/init file
<eXSiR> corza: edit ur xorg.conf file
<adriyel> xerophyte, hahahahaha....if you hack it up. I can't suggest that
<nanotube> adriyel, yea, i dont have time to switch distros right now, it works, im happy, so im good for now. but i will keep this vidalinux in mind for the future just in case ;)
<adriyel> I don't really think its probable/practical
<corza> eXSiR: i've tried editing it.. it still won't load.
<kash> the only one i haven't used is bare Debian, which i make up for by using Knoppix, Ark, Ubuntu, and, ashamedly, Lindows.
<eXSiR> did u install nvidia-glx
<corza> yes
<corza> i followed the guide
<sirgrim> i went with the newest nvidia drivers on there page and got it working fine
<psilikon> sirgrim, yeah that is what it just did for me... added to grub and everything... but it became my new default
<nanotube> adriyel, so... since you are not even running ubuntu, whatcha doin on this forum, i am curious :)
<adriyel> nanotube, Ubuntu is gonna prolly mean that something is more likely to just work, although Vidalinux is good about that, its still based on Gentoo....*shrugs* I like the notable performance difference (for me anyways)
<corza> and when i restarted it didnt work.
<eXSiR> use official dr
<mcdenyer> can someone helo me install firefox 1.5?
<adriyel> nanotube, ever heard of dual-booting?
<corza> official?
<eXSiR> driver*
<adriyel> this new thing GRUB can do
<mcdenyer> help*
<eXSiR> nvidia's one
<kash> adriyel: my favourite remains to be FreeBSD 5.4 and up, but if only.. if only that fglrx support was there :(
<nanotube> adriyel, hehe, im dual booting already - ubuntu and winxp
<corza> someone told me not to use the official ones. i think it was Seveas
<adriyel> its where you have...like...two operating systems....but one hard drive
<kash> !grub
<ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
<adriyel> nanotube, actually, I am triple booting
<adriyel> WinXP, Ubuntu, Vidalinux
<mcdenyer> can someone help me install firefox
<psilikon> cool gnome system monitor shows 2 cpus now! :)
<kash> you wanna know some irony?
<adriyel> Ubuntu has pretty muchly been eaten by Vidalinux though (long story)
<kash> Ubuntu + Grub.
<adriyel> kash what?
<adriyel> kash, meh.
<kash> just let it sink in :)
<C-O-L-T> how to write .img file to cd?
<adriyel> have you tried FBSD 6?
<kash> adriyel: yes, it could be better
<adriyel> much better wireless I hear.
<nanotube> adriyel, hehe i see. my laptop only has a 40g hard drive, i cant be throwing a dozen os's on it. :)
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, am in xfce now
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], welcome back...success?
<sirgrim> I use k3b for cd burning c-o-l-t, works good
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], sweet. good enough, or you want lighter/faster?
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, yesh
<kash> adriyel: 7.0 is much better - the drivers that people are having troubles with on the mailing list... ouch :(
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], keep in mind, you go any lighter, you lose some creature comforts
<psilikon> C-O-L-T, you gotta use cdrecord but do an -scanbus flag to find out where the cd writer is... right guys
<stoned> kash: i installed the kplayer debian marillat package and w32 packages using dpkg --fore-depends
<adriyel> kash, lol, BSD is always plagued by drivers
<eXSiR> corza: install build-essential, ur kernel-header and gcc-3.4, after then try to install official nvidia driver...
<stoned> works great
<sirgrim> naw, k3b all the way psi lol
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, yea... i need some of them... am not COMPLETELY familiar with the terminal...
<adriyel> kash, unless you have the most generic machine known to man, with no peripherals outside of a simple keyboard and mouse
<corza> eXSiR: is there a website for this guide?
<sirgrim> even does dvd-rs
<psilikon> i can't wait to get me fluxbox setup...
<eXSiR> yes it should be google :))
<mcdenyer> plz i need help installing firefox 1.5 :/
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