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<Krelbel> dunno how to run it though
<nanotube> psilikon, use this sources.list, maybe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7760
<ilba7r> Krelbel, did you look here too http://www.matroska.org/downloads/linux.html
<PoW> Whats a good program to convert mp3->wav and burn them to cd(s)?
<j-coltrane> XFce4 is cool, openbox is lighter
<psilikon> nanotube, i am seeing the amd64-k8-smp
<vincenz_> Hello
<adriyel> j-coltrane, openbox can bl0w me. I hate XML
<vincenz_> how come lighttpd is not part of ubuntu?
<Krelbel> ilba7r: yeah, neither of those players work, and i have both libs
<j-coltrane> adriyel, LOL
<ilba7r> Krelbel, you need the libs
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, thanks mate
<Krelbel> that's why i have them :)
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], no prob
<nanotube> psilikon, are you sure you are searching exactly for "linux-686" ? like, you didnt forget a dash or anything?
<adriyel> j-coltrane, I'd rather dance around a Windows GUI themer than mess with openbox XML
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, i just need some BASIC UI (like the strip down windows XP look)
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, not the terminal though
<[FR33_B33R]> hhhhehehhehhe
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], XFce4 or a stripped down WM will be appropiate then
<psilikon> nanotube, positive.
<nanotube> Krelbel, try "ffmpeg" from a terminal?
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], try XFce4, if that isn't light/fast enough, talk to me afterwards
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, ill aptget that
<cjnodell> i just did a search for network-admin, but no packages where found by that name...
<ilba7r> [FR33_B33R], if you need strip fast xp like use icewm. for better choice try fluxbox
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], yeah, use sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop
<nanotube> psilikon, then use that sources.list i pasted for you (my own), and you should see it. :)
<adriyel> use xubuntu-desktop metapackage, trust me, it'll integrate stuff better
<vincenz_> anyone working on a package for lighttpd?
<j-coltrane> cjnodell, should be there by default
<nanotube> cjnodell, maybe you were looking for network-manager instead?
<adriyel> I love portage....has about 110,000 packages
<adriyel> krezzy krezzy stuff.
<nanotube> cjnodell, i know there is a network-manager package... never heard of network-admin
<LordHunter317> and al lready to totally break your system.
<adriyel> LordHunter317, huh?
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, should i use synaptic isntead :)
<j-coltrane> yes
<LordHunter317> gentoo's packaging quality is well...
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], I'm not even using Ubuntu dude, don't worry about it, its an entirely differently structured Linux distro (gentoo)
<psilikon> nanotube, thanks man.. just pasted those guys right now... so apt-get update is required when modifying the sources.list?
<cjnodell> I am using xubuntu, and i dont see in anywhere, and i am not sure what i am looking for exactly. I know that in the normal ubuntu it is under the system-administration-networking menu
<[FR33_B33R]> adriyel, this is the first linux that has actually worked for me... i mean everything here works
<adriyel> cjnodell, its there somewhere
<j-coltrane> cjnodell, i will look
<adriyel> [FR33_B33R], I know where you're coming from. I have my mom and my friends using ubuntu
<adriyel> I eventually got advanced enough that I "upgraded" to Vidalinux though
<psilikon> nanotube, ok this is weird.... "linux-686" still comes up with nothing
<adriyel> Gentoo-lite as I call it
<j-coltrane> ubuntu and SuSe here.....joy
<Krelbel> hm
<Krelbel> ffmpeg seems to be an encoding tool
<adriyel> j-coltrane, gentoo/vidalinux too
<Krelbel> not a player
<darm> hi, anyone knows a working cure for running xserver not as a root after upgrading to xorg 7.0.0?
<adriyel> Krelbel, indeed.
<Toma-> cjnodell, hit Alt-F2 and type 'gksu network-admin'
<adriyel> reencode it into something else
<cjnodell> i will try
<Krelbel> that seems to be a bit above my head
<adriyel> Krelbel, the sky is above my head too
<cjnodell> "no such file or directory
<nanotube> psilikon, yea, apt-get update, or click reload button in synaptic
<cjnodell> I did a server install that loaded xubuntu vie apt-get.
<ilba7r> adriyel, really nice to have a distro where you need days just to install a base system then endless hours to maintain ;)
<j-coltrane> adriyel, agreed on gentoo...no experience with Vida
<Toma-> cjnodell, "sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools"
<Toma-> that'll get you the network-admin tool
<psilikon> what is a header
<vincenz_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
<psilikon> i think the amd64 k8 smp is the one I need
<psilikon> gonna google that now
<adriyel> ilba7r, Vidalinux does the base/GUI install for you
<Toma-> psilikon, where you jump and and hit the soccer ball in mid-flight :)
<adriyel> ilba7r, after that, you can choose to do BINARY installs from portage
<adriyel> ilba7r, if you don't know anything about Gentoo, please do not critique it
<ilba7r> adriyel, does it take care of the config files
<adriyel> source is an option, not a prequisite
<cjnodell> I will give it a shot. Is there a lot of extra, unnecessary tools that come with gnome-system-tools, or just network-admin?
<adriyel> ilba7r, I've had no issues with it
<vincenz_> why can't it compile code?
<ilba7r> adriyel, i can critique it but no time for distro war. I know enough to make me choose
<adriyel> vincenz, do you have build-essential installed?
<xerophyte_> is the Ubunutu site down www.ubuntulinux.org
<Toma-> cjnodell, no idea.
<j-coltrane> cjnodell, various system config apps, wouldnt call em unnecessary
<psilikon> a header is kernel source right?
<vincenz_> adriyel: that being?
<cjnodell> k, thanks
<anavim> why does ubuntu have such better network card support? neither of my cards work on debian, both on ubuntu...
<kash> not quite, psilikon
<j-coltrane> looks like xerophyte
<adriyel> ilba7r, thats great, i'm glad you've found a version of Linux that works for you, but try to understand, the long install, long update time is purely optional on Gentoo
<adriyel> there are binaries for everything
<kash> anavim: maybe the kernel modules are correcly probed..?
<psilikon> i guess i will try this amd64-k8-smp kernel... worst comes to worst it won't boot right
<adriyel> vincenz, sudo apt-get install build-essential
<vincenz_> adriyel: and how would I make a package out of lighttpd? it follows the configure /make/make install tract
<adriyel> try again after that
<ilba7r> adriyel, thanx for the update and info :)
<nanotube> psilikon, whats your cpu?
<vincenz_> adriyel: thx, works now
<anavim> kash: debian sees the cards but can't make them get an IP from the DHCP server... it's odd
<psilikon> yeah so what is the difference in headers and images
<kash> anavim: i can think of a bunch of things - the main thing is; the Linux kernel is what has most drivers either compiled in, or as a module, and the kernel is (mostly) standard across distros.
<adriyel> ilba7r, with Vidalinux, it uses an anaconda installer, installs a base system optimized for either i686, AMDXP, P4, or 64-bit
<adriyel> no compiling
<adriyel> then, after that, you can continue to do source, or do binary
<psilikon> nanotube, pentium 4 D 3GHz em64t
<adriyel> from a GUI based installer
<adriyel> the package manager on Vidalinux is gui based, although you can use emerge commands if you like
<Krelbel> hrm.
<adriyel> the pkg mgr is called Yukiyu
<nanotube> psilikon, hmm, i dont know if amd-64 would work for you... but i guess doesnt hurt to try :)
<kash> !dapper
<ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.
<Krelbel> it just doesn't make sense for VLC to not play this at all
<adriyel> I'm not evangelizing Vidalinux to the general public btw, it is still Gentoo at heart, and not for everyone, although it is better streamlined for the desktop than Gentoo
<nanotube> psilikon, just make sure after install, and before boot, to check /boot/grub/menu.lst to make sure that old kernels are still listed...
<psilikon> nanotube, 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic is what uname tells me i am running now
<psilikon> nanotube, ok good advice
<nanotube> psilikon, oh... strange. well, then give it a shot.
<MrPockets> does DamnSmall come with GAIM?
<psilikon> what is the k8 part though
<j-coltrane> adriyel, i may have to play with Vida
<Krelbel> this is so frustrating
<j-coltrane> its install time
<Krelbel> i tell VLC media player to open this
<Krelbel> and it just... does nothing
<Krelbel> plays it for like 3 seconds with no sound, then stops everything
<nanotube> psilikon, btw, interestingly, for me, amd54-k8-smp package does not come up. heh.
<adriyel> j-coltrane, only if you're capable of handling Linux at a slightly higher level than say, Ubuntu. I'm not trying to evangelize it, just saying Gentoo has come far
<psilikon> EM64T and amd64 are kinda the same technology from what i have read.. like the coke pepsi thing
<adriyel> j-coltrane, install time? longer than Ubuntu's, WAY shorter than gentoo's
<adriyel> it uses the fedora/anaconda installer
<stoned> hi
<psilikon> nanotube, wierd... one of those repos in your list was not found for me
<stoned> here is an error i recieved, while trying to install w32codecs
<Krelbel> H264_AC3... does that say something about the format?
<stoned> W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
<stoned> 403 Forbidden
<theshibboleth> how do i check which version of the linux kernel i have?
<stoned> umm, why is an ubuntu repository forbidden
<psilikon> uname -a
<Protocol1> once I have firestarter set does it run in the background?
<kash> why do I see people compare Gentoo vs. Ubuntu all the time?
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