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<Krelbel> i don't see that option anywhere
<adriyel> slavik, ask ubotu, the bot is your sla
<adriyel> slave
<tuxedo_kamen> brenner, but I can't download stuff >__>
<flodine> anyone get/part
<tuxedo_kamen> that's why I Wanted to use a CD
<brenner> tuxedo_kamen: er, how are you on the net now?
<slavik> ubotu is useless, he's like marving from h2d2
<ubotu> slavik: My cat's name is Mittens!
<adriyel> LordHunter317, so why are ATI and NVidia foisting this crossfire/SLI nonsense on us when we could have dualcore GPU's by now?
<LordHunter317> adriyel: just remember, a single Niagra core or SMT unit gets rocks by anything out there.
<slavik> no, wait
<varsendagger> anyone like icewm?
<LordHunter317> adriyel: GPUs do operate in parallel, but in a different way.
<tuxedo_kamen> brenner, like... in portugal, we have a monthly download limit, and the one I Still have isn't enough to donwload it
<slavik> the galaxy hitchiker's guide
<brenner> varsendagger: i used it in the past.
<LordHunter317> their data is streaming however, so the operation is different.
<slavik> see?
<adriyel> LordHunter317, I know that its single-thread perf ****s above all black holes, but its embar***ingly parallel nature is fascinating
<nanotube> Krelbel, right click, select open>load subtitle and open the mkv file again?
<slavik> I also thing that 'dog' should alias to 'cat'
<adriyel> LordHunter317, streaming...would it be good in multimedia then?
<LordHunter317> adriyel: right, but if I'm running a thread that jsut writes some strings and sleeps
<LordHunter317> x 100 threads...
<varsendagger> some retard told me it was better than fluxbox
<LordHunter317> adriyel: what GPUs?
<varsendagger> brenner, what do you think?
<psilikon> Any audio freaks here tonite?
<Krelbel> Cannot load subtitles:
<Krelbel> ;/
<LordHunter317> Xenon is esentially a GPU, as are the Cell SPEs so to speak.
<LordHunter317> they look a lot like a GPU.
<Frogzoo> adriyel: do you have any idea of the size of the core on modern GPUs?
<adriyel> LordHunter317, I was thinking of doing it in software without a card
<brenner> varsendagger: was OK. minimal amount of attractive themes though
<LordHunter317> adriyel: rendering?
<slavik> I'll try to get kooldock and such to run on gnome tomorrow :D
<adriyel> Frogzoo, yes. they're huge
<slavik> time for sleep
<slavik> night all
<adriyel> LordHunter317, no, multimedia, like...encoding.
<adriyel> you mentioned streaming, thats what came to mind
<Frogzoo> adriyel: pretty hard to dual core then...
<LordHunter317> adriyel: depends on the job.
<LordHunter317> adriyel: a lot of video stuff is parallelziable in the way a graphics card works.
<Krelbel> nanotube: it gave me a Cannot load subtitles: message and stopped playing
<tuxedo_kamen> so... if I save the content of the cd to home/cd/ , what lines do I have to add in synaptic to update from there? any ideas?
<adriyel> Frogzoo, *lol* not quite. they have hacked up dual GPU boards out there
<LordHunter317> but the way we do compression is not.
<psilikon> does ubuntu do anything about SMP?
<adriyel> Frogzoo, check it out sometime
<LordHunter317> psilikon: install an SMP kernel and it does.
<tritium> yep, psilikon
<Frogzoo> adriyel: true - but the yields will ****
<brenner> varsendagger: why do you ask?
<nanotube> Krelbel, hmm... i guess i am out of ideas... have you looked for mkv plugins for xine or vlc or mplayer in synaptic?
<adriyel> Frogzoo, thats when you improve your lithography fool.
<nanotube> Krelbel, maybe there is a separate plugin?
<adriyel> thats part of R&D
<Krelbel> i've installed all the ones i could find
<adriyel> everytime they increase the transistor switching frequency, in theory, yields get worse, but their processes get better
<psilikon> LordHunter317, ok since i am still a hardcore noob i would really like to get some info on that.
<adriyel> there is no damn excuse for not having a dual GPU mainstream gaming card by now
<LordHunter317> adriyel: it's not espeically practical, as I said.
<adriyel> they're fleecing us with MisFire and SLI
<nanotube> Krelbel, hmm. well, i guess i am out of ideas... have you tried installing the w32codec package?
<LordHunter317> thoug yes, I agree there's some fleecing going on.
<adriyel> LordHunter317, so what is a specific application of this technology?
<Krelbel> w32codec? *searches*
<Frogzoo> adriyel: I don't think ATI or nvidia find it necessary to apologise :)
<LordHunter317> adriyel: of dual cores?
<adriyel> Frogzoo, bah.
<nanotube> Krelbel, have you add custom repositories.
<adriyel> LordHunter317, niagra
<psilikon> check this out my SuSE system with the SMP and amd 64 kernel was kinda weird... now i have the default breezy kernel no SMP (but amd64 support) and everything is nice and clean and lean
<nanotube> !tell Krelbel about easysource
<LordHunter317> adriyel: J2EE web serving.
<Timberwolf_42> Can I make a CD-RW bootable?
<Krelbel> multiverse, yeah
<adriyel> Sun made a processor good at hosting java based web
<nanotube> Krelbel, i am not sure it is in multiverse. (but if it is, great :) )
<Protocol1> ah who cares about java
<adriyel> why does that not surprise me?
<Frogzoo> adriyel: the real question is when will we have a GPU that can run SMP linux?
<LordHunter317> Protocol1: lots of people.
<brenner> Timberwolf_42: yes. afaik.
<adriyel> I'm not a fan of java, btw
<nanotube> Krelbel, if not, use that easysource page, and add seveas repositories
<thangog> supp yall
<Protocol1> i cant get mine running
<LordHunter317> adriyel: well, seeing as it's their business.
<Krelbel> hehe
<LordHunter317> Oracle's getting ready to abandon Sun.
<Timberwolf_42> Ok thoughts so thank you
<varsendagger> brenner, because he said it was more like windows, whatever that means
<adriyel> Frogzoo, meh. the GPU's are too specialized, not gonna happen
<LordHunter317> least, I smell a stab in the back.
<psilikon> I have this P4 Dual core p.o.s. and am wondering if I would see any more "speed" if I installed an smp kernel... (why doesn't ubuntu auto detect it and run it?)
<LordHunter317> yes, you would.
<LordHunter317> install linux-image-2.6-smp IIRC.
<brenner> varsendagger: is /is/ sort of similar i guess. it has a menu at bottom left.
<tritium> psilikon: because it's not installed by default
<adriyel> only CERTAIN code can be run on the programmable GPU's as it is
<Frogzoo> Frogzoo: you should take a look at the projects for GPUs for scientific computing - it's already happening
<tritium> psilikon: "sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp"
<adriyel> Frogzoo, I already know about that
<adriyel> thats highly specific
<thangog> who knows a better system than ubunto
<Timberwolf_42> I'm using gnomebaker and trying to make the install cd for ubuntu but the options to make the cd bootable is greyed out is there something missing from the package or does it not support what I want to do?
<adriyel> running a kernel on something as specialized as a GPU is not only bizarre, but highly impractical, and it would be slow
<Frogzoo> adriyel: it will become more general with time - if I was intel/amd I'd be concerned
<nanotube> LordHunter317, psilikon: in fact, you want the linux-686-smp package
<adriyel> GPU's are focused around parallel applications and memory bandwidth
<psilikon> tritium, how can I make it so I will have a choice in grub
<adriyel> Frogzoo, uh. no.
<nanotube> tritium, hehe you beat me to it
<adriyel> Frogzoo, you have no idea how slow a GPU is compared to a CPU for single-threaded linear applications do you?
<nanotube> psilikon, grub wil automatically get updated, so your old kernels will remain as options
<nanotube> psilikon, so you will have a choice
<thangog> oh, no answer
<adriyel> if I were NVIDIA or ATI, I'd worry that the increasing number of cores in a CPU combined with better software rendering would eliminate their business
<tritium> nanotube: :)
<tritium> thangog: what do you expect?
<Frogzoo> adriyel: I can give you the arch's of both on the back of an envelope, if you'd like
<adriyel> not that what you say, or what I say is necessarily very practical, or possible.
<psilikon> Do you think there will be any performance gain with the SMP? can't be much i still think the dual core is kinda a gimmick
<leetcharmer> hello, can someone help me remove fglrx? "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
<leetcharmer> "
<thangog> peeps to talk? i can't even install me damn j2
<adriyel> Frogzoo, *shakes head and sighs* GPU's are not designed to run operating systems or even kernels, they would **** at it
<tritium> psilikon: you may notice a small improvement
<Timberwolf_42> Sorry if my newbie questions are issing relevant portions for an adequate reply I appreciate any help I can get
<adriyel> thangog, restricted formats mate
<Timberwolf_42> missing
<Frogzoo> adriyel: irc is wierd the people you run into - have you ever worked in chip design?
<leetcharmer> I'm trying to apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
<leetcharmer> and not having much luck :/
<LordHunter317> adriyel: software rendering isn't even close to what a GPU can do.
<LordHunter317> for games and such.
<LordHunter317> nvidia and ATI have a long ways to go before they're worried about anything.
<adriyel> LordHunter317, I know that, but as highly improbable as what I stated was, it illustrated that his idea is even more improbable
<tuxedo_kamen> -_-
<psilikon> forming a "good" question is hard sometimes for impatient noobs like me
<LordHunter317> fair 'nuff.
<adriyel> Frogzoo, I haven't "worked" in chip design, but I understand computer architecture well
<Timberwolf_42> psilikon, I know the feeling lol
<leetcharmer> so, can anyone help me out?
<nanotube> psilikon, at the very least, its not gonna be /worse/ :)
<adriyel> Frogzoo, frankly, you don't know very much about GPU's, or have a vested interest in them, if you're seriously trying to tell me that a GPU will be better at running a kernel than my AMD64
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