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Comments:
<YukiCuss> pong!
<adriyel> bobbyd, well the only distro I'd ever gotten EVERYTHING working without a h***le was ubuntu
<adriyel> perhaps ubuntu has perf issues...
<slavik> I like when someone says 'the gimp' ... heh, sounds funny
<adriyel> GNU Image Manipulator Program
<adriyel> happy?
<slavik> adriyel: gimp sounds like pimp :)
<adriyel> gosh, emerging GIMP takes forever
<adriyel> the gimp, sounds like the gimpy
<bobbyd> adriyel, have you seen the "live arcade" thing on the 360? there's a great game called geometry wars, really retro and addictive
<slavik> PIMP!
<adriyel> hmm, the emerge is using O2 and omit-frame-pointer
<Ben__> lol i cant seem to find right command to get kernel i want
<Ben__> or do i have to download it?
<adriyel> bobbyd, nuh uh. I avoid all things Microsoft whenever I can
<adriyel> I've heard of it though
<slavik> finding a comp sci related job in nyc is crap
<adriyel> I heard a lot of people were playing something like bejeweled
<slavik> Ben__: why do you need the kernel?
<adriyel> bobbyd, on a side note, are you familiar with gcc optimization?
<Ben__> dual core
<slavik> adriyel: bejewed is teh shiznit
<Ben__> i need an smp kernel
<Toma-> adriyel, youre using gentoo?
<adriyel> Toma-, Correction: Vidalinux
<slavik> Ben__: try browsing the repos
<bobbyd> adriyel, somewhat, I used it a lot for the gameboy advance
<adriyel> Gentoo made time-efficient
<bobbyd> adriyel, but it's all changed in gcc 4
<bobbyd> then rewrote the optimiser
<Ben__> if i do sudo apt-get install kernelnamehere
<adriyel> bobbyd, k, does -OS include O2 optimizations?
<Toma-> http://funroll-loops.org/
<Toma-> :)
<Ben__> will it overwrite old kernel?
<bobbyd> s/then/they
<adriyel> have you done any performance comparisons of gcc4 and gcc3.4?
<Ben__> if so what can i add to prevent that
<adriyel> I'm using gcc...4 I think
<nanotube> hey, so how would i force a module load on boot? where is the correct place to edit? i want to load the i8k module (some bios/cpu monitoring specific to dell laptops), but it has to be loaded with "force=1" otherwise it wont load...
<slavik> Ben__: you can jsut download instead of installing
<bobbyd> adriyel, sorry, no idea, I just went with the numbers :)
<Ben__> ok
<adriyel> yeah, I am using gcc 4.0.1
<slavik> I think they might be just sources ...
<slavik> but you have the option of 'download only' in synaptic
<Ben__> but if i dont insatll will i be able to boot that kernel frm the grub menu?
<slavik> prolly not
<adriyel> my last experience with gcc4 was unpleasant, it got finicky about something 3.4 didn't
<that_weasel> -0s is for binary size, it will include anything that is likely to reduce the size of the binary...
<slavik> Ben__: sounds like you want a dualboot type thing
<nanotube> slavik: any clue on loading the modules thing?
<adriyel> that_weasel, incorrect. although it does reduce size, it includes optimizations, I want a clarification on which
<slavik> nanotube: what modules?
<Ben__> yes i do dual boot i have linux and windows
<slavik> nanotube: shouldn't I be asking YOU questions? :P
<adriyel> that_weasel, on a side note, -OS is what Mac OS X was compiled wth, and its STILL bloated
<that_weasel> -O3 rarely gives any benifits over -O2 and often results in slower code
<adriyel> nanotube, sudo modprobe ?
<slavik> Ben__: are you running an x2 or dual cpu or dualcore type thing?
<nanotube> slavik, hehe, it works both ways :)
<adriyel> that_weasel, I'm aware of that
<that_weasel> adriyel: man gcc
<adriyel> that_weasel, it also results in errors
<slavik> nanotube: I am not good with admin stuff
<adriyel> that_weasel, the manpage for gcc? I'll p***.
<Ben__> x2
<LiteHedded> what's the package for all the codecs?
<tepy> Hi all
<bobbyd> adriyel, -Os enables all -O2 optimizations that do not typically increase
<bobbyd> code size. It also performs further optimizations designed to reduce code size.
<Ben__> amd x2 cpu
<slavik> I keep forgetting where the scripts are and stuff
<nanotube> adriyel, i know how to load it from commandline, thats not the problem. i am looking for where to change some conf file to make it load on boot.
<airmikey> trying to compile this program but i get this error..checking for wx-config... no
<airmikey> configure: error:
<airmikey> Please check that wx-config is in path,
<slavik> and saying that I run ubuntu in a resume better get me a ****ing job ...
<Tency> Hi guys.
<Tency> Seems I'm having a bit of trouble with X11.
<slavik> Ben__: then you want the smp kernel :)
<Ben__> crap i clicked the wrong button
<adriyel> nanotube, gah, I used to remember how
<Ben__> ok
<nanotube> slavik, adriyel, the man modprobe mentions /etc/modprobe.conf, but that file does not even exist... so i wonder whats the "ubuntu way"
<adriyel> !modules
<ubotu> adriyel: Some people juggle geese
<bobbyd> adriyel, the initial gcc 4 release was slower on my code than 3.x
<Krelbel> anyone know anything about getting matroska files to play on ubuntu?
<slavik> touch the file ;)
<bobbyd> adriyel, but the latest release is slighty faster
<adriyel> nanotube, couldn't tell you, I'm in Gentoo-land
<adriyel> bobbyd, *nods* yeah I noticed that 4.0 was slower
<slavik> some of the unix commands freak me out ...
<adriyel> is 4.0.1 faster then?
<slavik> like kill, touch ...
<nanotube> slavik: heh, sure i can create it, but if its not there to start with, maybe ubuntu dosent even read it. :)
<Toma-> nanotube, what are you doing?
<that_weasel> adriyel: that was not incorrect.... -Os does include any optimizations that are likely to reduce the size of the resulting binary..
<brenner> Tency: that's no good
<Protocol1> whoa...well what do you know I got firefox 1.5 running
<logical_mark> Hey is there anything that would keep a USB harddrive enclosure from working properly with Ubunut?
<Tency> Eh?
<Protocol1> yippy
<adriyel> slavik, hows about FSCK ME FSCK ME TOUCH FILE KILL MOM
<slavik> nanotube: touch ubuntu enough and it will read it ;)
<bobbyd> adriyel, I'm on 4.0.2
<adriyel> kkz
<Protocol1> hurray
<Toma-> nanotube, youre righ "ubuntu dosent even read it"
<nanotube> toma-: i want to to load the i8k module automatically on boot. from command line, have to use force=1 to load.
<adriyel> bobbyd, does 4.0.1 include that performance improve?
<slavik> adriyel: shivers down my spine
<adriyel> improvement?
<Tency> Hey PoleSmoker, have you been abused latley.
<nanotube> slavik: haha
<Tency> ?*
<slavik> what's fsck anyway?
<adriyel> slavik, Unix is for the flawed and the lazy.
<Tency> By tritium?
<slavik> and how can you 'kill mom'?
<adriyel> who types usr instead of user? seriously
<that_weasel> slackista: file system checker
<adriyel> killall -9 mom
<bobbyd> adriyel, you'd have to check the changelog, I only tested 4 and then 4.0.2
<adriyel> bobbyd, gah. k
<Toma-> nanotube, you want the force=1 option with that module?, eg "i8k force=1" ?
<nanotube> Toma-, i see, so my intuition was correct. so can you tell me what is the ubuntu equivalent of modprobe.conf, ?
<adriyel> I'll patch it in portage if I have to
<tritium> you're funny, Tency
<slavik> adriyel: and 'die' in perl ... same with 'bless' (you have to bless yourself to be available as an object)
<that_weasel> slavik: file system checker
<Tency> Sir?
<Tency> I just heard you have been abusing people.
<slavik> oh, right
<LiteHedded> is there a package that installs divx/xvid etc??
<nanotube> Toma-, yes, that's what i want - thats what i have to do when i load it from commandline directly. how do do it on boot, is the question.
<bobbyd> adriyel, well, it's 6am here, I'm off to bed :P
<slavik> LiteHedded: browse synaptic
<bobbyd> adriyel, night
<adriyel> -Os Optimize for size. -Os enables all -O2 optimizations that do not typically increase code size.
<slavik> someone needs to reorder the repos better
<adriyel> bobbyd, g'night
<adriyel> that_weasel, you're pwnt son.
<adriyel> see above
<nanotube> bobbyd, wow nice... sweet dreams.
<slavik> like ... have sections dealing with video codecs ... another section with media players
<Tency> Anyway, I'm trying to increase my Linux knowledge. I have Googled "Linux tips and tricks"
<Tency> :)
<that_weasel> adriyel: how so...you just said the same thing i did
<slavik> section for compiler related stuff (which lib installs the gtk headers and such?)
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