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<bur[n]er> gnome/kde... they're both linux ;)
<slavik> yes
<that_weasel> bur[n]er: "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: blah"."
<sethk> gamma, same chips, perhaps, but not the same dimm/simm/whatever
<gamma> i had a gig stick of desktop pc ram.. didnt know if i could throw it in my laptop
<bur[n]er> that_weasel: you're hnot supposed to type "blah" blah == your windows computer name or ip address
<sethk> gamma, unfortunately, no.
<that_weasel> bur[n]er: yea smbclient is installed
<Toma-> slavik, kde is better for eyecandy if thats what your getting at
<slavik> bur[n]er: that is one slow server
<sethk> gamma, of course I haven't seen every loptop in the universe, but I've never seen a laptop that takes desktop simms
<slavik> Toma-: that's what I've been asking recently
<bur[n]er> slavik: i know, mmy connection is slow for some reason tonight :0
<that_weasel> bur[n]er: Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Storage".
<gamma> i find kde more useable in the every day world once configured how i like it
<ReymiX> anybody can help me ? how to mount a partition NTFS for all user ?
<slavik> gnome seems more minimalist though, which is nice ...
<sirgrim> i usually like kde but havn't installed it since gnome's been so nice to me
<gamma> sethk: i wont try then :) as much as i want to destroy my laptop, or my ram.
<bobbyd> hi
<sirgrim> just wish i could figure out why i cant mount my 2nd drive since new kernel
<bur[n]er> kde has bouncing icons when you launch an app :) i love that
<sethk> gamma, it won't hurt to look. the shapes are very obviously different, so if it isn't immediately obvious that it won't go in there, then investigate further
<slavik> I like the top bar ... the very right part of it
<bobbyd> my sounds seems to be delayed when playing flash anims in firefox
<slavik> it mimics OSX :)
<sethk> sirgrim, probably it has a file system on it and the kernel support for that file system is missing
<bobbyd> what coould I try to do about that?
<slavik> if only apple open sourced the osx gui ...
<sirgrim> sethk: naw it's ntfs and i can mount my windows partition on this drive fine, tells me it's busy or already mounted
<Supaplex> slavik: then we'd package it. :-p
<frykshon> ok well heres a rather silly question, im brand new to linux and im having trouble installing my aim, how do i gain administrative privileges?
<gamma> slavik: there's an option in kde to put a topbar too, and it's program context sensitive
<Protocol1> is there a way to create a root account
<ReymiX> anybody can help me ? how to mount a partition NTFS for all user ????
<gamma> so you'll get the file menu for program x
<bur[n]er> bleh, OS X dreams of being gnome... usability in gnome is way better
<sethk> sirgrim, it tells you it is busy or mounted, when?
<that_weasel> slavik: no need to open osx gui when Elightenment 17 will be out soon...
<bur[n]er> OS X has no hotkeys, no apps running section... the dock blows ***
<sirgrim> when i try to mount it manually, nothing about it on bootup
<that_weasel> ;)
<CanYouHelpMePlz> frykshon: sudo
<gamma> sethk: yea i'll probably take a quick check later tonight.. if it's the same size i guess ill try it
<Supaplex> how long does the live cd usually take to start?
<bobbyd> ReymiX, I think it folows the permissions of the mount point
<bur[n]er> Supaplex: long :\
<frykshon> thanx ill be back is i have any issues
<bur[n]er> Supaplex: hopefully better in the next release
<that_weasel> bur[n]er: no ideas?
<Toma-> lol @ e17 soon
<Protocol1> im trying extract firefox 1,5 tar file into the /opt directory
<that_weasel> Toma-: ok, ok...so maybe not "soon"
<slavik> that_weasel: got any pics?
<Rodietze> hey after installed libdvdcss2 I got one error regarding mpeg, like it had no lib to handle mpeg? what can I do???
<that_weasel> Toma-: but E is always worth the way...no matter how long it takes
<Toma-> that_weasel, the words "enlightenment" and "soon" are often used together :)
<that_weasel> slackista: get-e.org
<bobbyd> anyone?
<Protocol1> says i dont have permissions...does anyone have console commands to help me do it in console
<sethk> ReymiX, I think I already told you more than once. use the uid= and gid= options when mounting the ntfs partition
<nanotube> slavik, nice wallpaper :)
<sirgrim> sethk: when i try to mount it manually, nothing about it on bootup, just went from 2.6.12-10 to 2.6.15 with .12's config imported
<Rodietze> Protocol1 chmod 777 tarfile
<sethk> sirgrim, it tells you it is already mounted, but it isn't? is that what you mean?
<caonex> bur[n]er, that commands does not work, it says that /boot/grub/stage1 could not be read correctly
<sethk> Protocol1, you have a root account. you don't need to create one.
<sirgrim> sethk: yea
<bur[n]er> well, ****ty caonex ;)
<Protocol1> i know
<sirgrim> sethk: drive works under .12 and windows still, so it's not toast
<sethk> Protocol1, you asked about creating one.
<bur[n]er> caonex: that's the command to install grub though
<Protocol1> but I was trying to extract a file visually
<slavik> nanotube: which one?
<sethk> sirgrim, you are sure that, in fact, it isn't mounted?
<sirgrim> damn sure
<caonex> bur[n]er, i think i did it manually
<slavik> bur[n]er: stop downloading illegal mp3s ...
<bur[n]er> Protocol1: tar xvfz blah.tar.gz
<Toma-> that_weasel, do you use e17?
<slavik> damn, that's a slow connection
<bur[n]er> slavik: i'm an emusic subscriber :P
<caonex> bur[n]er, i created menu.lst which is also grub.conf....and i selected an splashimage
<Rodietze> hey after installed libdvdcss2 I got one error regarding mpeg, like it had no lib to handle mpeg? what can I do???
<caonex> bur[n]er, that should do it right?
<Supaplex> eh, oh well..
<slavik> bur[n]er: stop downloading pr0n then
<sirgrim> and if i try to unmount it it says the same thign
<bur[n]er> slavik: they're big files and i leave my wireless open
<that_weasel> no...i havn't used much of anything for the last few months
<sethk> sirgrim, then I would strace the mount command with the new kernel, strace the same command with the old kernel, and find where they diverge
<that_weasel> just moved and started a new job
<bur[n]er> slavik: quit whinin ;)
<Toma-> i see
<slavik> bur[n]er: some sicko can upload child porn through your connectiona dnt hen you're done ...
<Toma-> i might get e17 when i get my new amd64
<sirgrim> good idea
<Hobz> how do I find out which kernel version I'm running/
<Supaplex> uname -r
<slavik> screw that :P
<that_weasel> but my usual preference is e 16.7 running in my latest LFS build
<bur[n]er> slavik: oh well... i believe in free internet
<bur[n]er> Hobz: uname -a
<slavik> bur[n]er: we're not belgium :(
<Toma-> that_weasel, is LFS easy enough?
<Toma-> :P~
<Hobz> thanks
<bur[n]er> slavik: you have your politics, i have mine... mine gives free wifi access ;)
<that_weasel> Toma-: yea, its pretty easy now....but you can miss something simple looking and screw things up
<sethk> Toma-, sure, it's a snap, if you know exactly what to do. :)
<Protocol1> whoa its extracted it
<Rodietze> hey after installed libdvdcss2 I got one error regarding mpeg, like it had no lib to handle mpeg? what can I do???
<Toma-> i see. looks like theyve got a livecd now? might be easier XD
<that_weasel> the chroot to the temporary tool chain used to be error prone...
<sirgrim> brb
<that_weasel> Toma-: yea, they didn't have that last time i checked...i think i'm going to check it out
<Toma-> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/
<Toma-> :)
<slavik> bur[n]er: mine gives free beer
<Rodietze> Toma- hey after installed libdvdcss2 I got one error regarding mpeg, like it had no lib to handle mpeg? what can I do???
<Toma-> im thinking i could really squeeze everything out of this 266mhz aptiva ive got here with lfs
<piggah> hey all
<slavik> Rodietze: try installing the mpeg2 lib?
<that_weasel> this is driving me crazy...i can access any share with mount, but only local shares with nautilus....grrrrrr
<sethk> Toma-, you would not get substantially different performance compared to installing a small version of ubuntu
<sethk> Toma-, the performance might even be worse.
<foampeace> hi is there a way to update firefox by packages safely or from a source?
<Toma-> Rodietze, mpeg.... everything should be able to do mpeg... libdvdcss has nothing to do with mpeg tho
<owner> all that compiling sounds like a lot of work
<Toma-> sethk, oh :(
<slavik> foampeace: search wiki for 'firefoxnewversion'
<Toma-> would a 2.4 kernel in ubuntu be better u think?
<that_weasel> sethk: i really depends on what you put into your LFS build
<slavik> foampeace: latest in the repos is 1.0.7
<sethk> Toma-, people who run gentoo figure that out (that the performance isn't better and often is even worse).
<Toma-> hehehe gentoo - ricer distro
<sethk> that_weasel, if you do it just perfectly, you'll get the same performance. otherwise it won't be as good
<koharski> is there a way do downgrade packages without removing them?
<foampeace> slavik: thanks
<slavik> np
<sethk> that_weasel, but you won't gain anything
<Protocol1> it extracted firefox to my home directory is that alright
<slavik> koharski: no
<Protocol1> i mean will it still run?
<that_weasel> sethk: lol...
<slavik> koharski: why downgrade?
<sethk> Protocol1, sure, it will run, but it isn't a good idea.
<Rodietze> slavik Toma- uhm ok sorry ..
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