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<0> duck--, I can see what you mean about the role gets the permissions, not the human. Humans change, roles don't. But this is a single user PC. =) It's my desktop.
<1> Sebboh, there are even more reasons as well
<2> Sanne: that's a povray modeler?
<3> this i add to /usr/local/bin as root
<0> Like what?
<1> Sebboh, but you are correct about the single-user thing, most times it doesn't really matter
<4> scifi, yes, that's right, wings can't render. Can k-3d render directly, though? As I tried it, it needed povray (which is fine, it's a nice engine).
<3> then when i am keyed up i can just type root
<4> amphi, which one?
<0> duck-- I'm curious about the other reasons. I'm open minded. =)
<1> Sebboh, Are you sure it will always be a single-user? What if you want to add a friend onto it and add him to sudoers. Then you have to add him by name to the file instead of adding him to the group
<2> Sanne: wings3d - kpovmodeler is said to be an ok one, but I just use a text editor for povray
<5> sudo iptables -D INPUT 1 (this is my answer) thanx anyway
<6> Sanne: aparently k-3d can now render directly using the aqsis renderman renderer :)
<3> if i feel real anal i create a second sshd that runs on 222 and only listens to 127.0.0.1
<1> Sebboh, configuration files should be changed as little as possible regarding permissions, it introduces too much complexity to a system
<1> Sebboh, sudoers is a unique instance, however, where the file is simple
<4> amphi, wings3d *might* have pov export, I think it has, but I used it long ago... sorry, don't know exactly.
<3> then remove root login and p***word login from 22
<7> iptables --flush
<4> scifi, that's interesting news, I should really try it again.
<2> Sanne: never used it myself either ;)
<7> flushes your rules - then start again
<3> is that anal or what
<4> amphi, as I tried it, it was lots of fun :)
<2> Sanne: I enjoy povray a lot
<8> hi
<8> by default does ubuntu install kde?
<2> Fenix-Dark: no
<9> no
<8> i'm trying to help someone who's using it
<1> Sebboh, If you arbitrarily want to quickly add another user to the sudoers, it is much easier to add them to a group than add them to the config file, especially from the command line. For example, if you needed to do something as www-data as I had to recently, temporarily adding them to the admin group is easy-cheesy
<0> duck--, I see it the other way around.. Adding a group to sudoers is introducing a one-to-many relationship.. There can be many people in that group, and they'd all get permissions. ..And I'd imagine that there's more than one way to get added to a group.
<3> duck back to ifolders
<7> kubuntu
<7> for kde
<8> and to install it with apt-get, its 'apt-get install kde' correct?
<2> Fenix-Dark: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will do it
<6> Sanne: i take it most people dont "settle" on one 3D app? personally id like to become really comfortable with one app and just become really adept at using it. so im still in the "trying them all out" phase at the mo
<4> amphi, doesn't look as having pov export: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/wings3d
<10> Fenix-Dark: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
<0> you added www-data to the admin group??!?! Goodnight!
<8> alright
<0> ;)
<1> Sebboh, ony for a second! :)
<2> Sanne: oh, well
<8> and apt-get installs binaries, or does it compile the stuff?
<3> duck what are ur thoughts
<4> scifi, well, I pretty much settled on blender, but trying out is never wrong ;)
<11> Sebboh: There might be more than one way to find yourself in a group, but all of them tend to require human intervention from an admin :)
<6> Sanne: i just really think im not patient enuff for blender
<3> kewl or a waste of time
<12> hi
<13> Fenix-Dark: the binaries
<1> Sebboh, or did I? Can't remember....actually I think I had to su to it from a more privileged user...grr, can't remember
<4> scifi, I can understand that. What a pity, though ;)
<1> gah
<12> what is analog Illustrator for Ubuntu?
<1> dorsetlurker, what are my thoughts on iFolder?
<0> http://duck.com/cgi-bin/crappyscript?foo=blah%0Crm%20-f%20/
<8> gumpish, good, didnt' wanna sit for 8+ hours waiting for it to compile
<3> gah ???
<0> ;)
<7> gnomefreak: is that the equivalent of kubuntu install?
<2> igorzolnikov: inkscape perhaps
<14> pow, meu velox fica mei lento no ubuntu hehe
<0> wait, I left out the sudo. Whatever.
<4> igorzolnikov, what is Illustrator?
<1> Sebboh, lol :)
<10> hollerith: that will install kubuntu (as the disk would) same default apps
<11> Sebboh: rm: /: is a directory
<11> :o)
<15> hi, what's the name of the app that people run to monitor cpu usage, network load, etc? Usually on the right side of the screen in the various screen shots?
<3> duck yes
<1> Sebboh, you forgot the r
<16> can someone help me : speak me in private
<7> oh I thought that it would have all special dependencies
<17> does anybody has a hp notebook with quickplay feature?
<8> so apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, do i just need to do 'echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc" as user to get kde to load on startx?
<2> quentez: ask in the channel
<7> as opposed to just kde-base
<0> %0C = line feed, iirc. Crappy scripts are fun! yeah yeah duck--, ChrisCF. I was thinking more about the escapes than the actual command.
<1> dorsetlurker, it is very much worth it :)
<10> Fenix-Dark: it will ask you if you want kdm or gdm to be default and you choose kde or gnome or whatever from the login screen
<11> Sebboh: Still, you want 0A :)
<1> dorsetlurker, now i'm toying with it, I just need some place with great storage
<4> pdx-fjb, there are several apps, I believe. One of them is gkrellm, I used it some time ago. Dunno if that's what you mean, though.
<18> okay, here's an Evolution annoyance... am I missing something??? I want to add a long list of email addresses from a spreadsheet but there doesn't seem to be a way to do it, other than A) entering one by one, or B) using another program (like thunderbird) and then exporting the list
<6> Sanne: and then i see images like this http://mediawiki.blender.org/uploads/d/d7/Manual-Part-II-SubSurf08.png and it persuades me to carry on trying blender *so frustrating* :)
<18> stupid. :P
<17> i've installed ubuntu and now i can't use quickplay anymore.. does anybody here had this problem?
<3> as i am not hard core what are the chances of a ifolder.deb
<2> pdx-fjb: gkrellm or torsmo or many others
<10> hollerith: kde base has just that the base with minimal apps not fun searching for apps to do this that and the other thing
<6> Sanne: can u model like that in blender?
<15> thx! I'll check them out.
<16> ok : i want to install gnome, i'm in command line and i want to install and start the graphic interface
<4> scifi, have you seen the blender gallery, Or, even more frustrating, that just recently released blender movie "Elephants Dream"?
<8> gnomefreak, ok thanks, i myself use slackware so i do everything by hand, not sure if it was needed with ubuntu
<1> dorsetlurker, ha! good luck, unless you want to make it yourself. You could take your chances with alien though
<10> quentez: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
<7> so it takes the lot?
<3> how long before the .deb people do one
<0> Well I came in here for one thing, and got something else fixed. Thanks ChrisCF, duck--. Oh, the other thing.. My inetd can't bind 113. Nothing's running there. What gives?
<10> hollerith: its alot of apps in one package
<1> Sebboh, erg, netstat doesn't show anything?
<4> scifi, no, I can't yet model like that, but I'm not learning very hard, to be honest ;)
<10> Fenix-Dark: ubuntu is easy to use ;)
<7> kde - bloat
<19> WIll anyon help me with a firestarter connection sharing problem?
<1> dorsetlurker, I'd try alien before waiting that long :)
<0> duck, wait, nevermind, I think I know what's wrong. inetd.conf is borked, that's all, maybe.
<3> :(
<7> shadowblade:I know iptables I don't know firestarter
<2> Sanne: what does blender use for rendering? I've never been impressed with blender renders, compared to povray
<3> it looks so kew
<7> whats up?
<6> Sanne: yes ive seen the gorgeous images in the gallery and will download elephant dreams when i get chance, have u seen it ?
<3> it looks so kewl
<1> dorsetlurker, I recently had to switch to Suse 10.1 because Groupwise 6.5 wouldn't run on ubuntu
<11> Hmm... this is odd.
<1> dorsetlurker, which is strange because it's java
<20> how does ubuntu handle xp partitions (pre-existing) on install to software raid
<11> apt tells be it's still getting 302s
<19> i got firestarter sharing a connection on ym second nic to my windows machien through a switch
<6> amphi: blender can render in povray now as well
<19> but i cant ping or anything
<11> but when I try a HTTP HEAD request, I get 200.
<19> no conneciton
<2> scifi: oh, excellent, thanks
<1> dorsetlurker, something like this makes me happy I did :)
<3> looks like i might have to install a suse server then
<10> shadowblade_: did you change anything in firestarter?
<4> scifi, I saw the 1024 Avi, can't run the hd version. It's just awesome and mind blowing what the guys achieved in only six months.
<19> yes, 1 sec
<6> sweet
<7> you can't ping it? so you have deny icmp?
<10> shadowblade_: change it back one at a time until you can ping again ;)
<1> dorsetlurker, umm, yeah, suse server, but remember SLES isn't free last time I checked
<19> sudo ln -sf /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server /etc/init.d/dhcpd
<19> to get dhcp working
<4> amphi, blender has an internal renderer with recently added raytracing, and it can render directly to yafray.
<19> but i dont need dhcp
<19> gnome
<19> i never had a conenction
<6> Sanne: one tip i got from the blenderarty magazine tutorial was to use a background image of the model u want to create. is that something u do ?
<1> dorsetlurker, ahh, they have it for suse
<19> thsi is my first attemp
<1> niiiice
<2> Sanne: and, apparently, now to povray
<4> scifi, yes, that's a common technique.
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