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<0> tamale: sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda1
<1> yer
<2> shoo-shu, select for complete removal.
<3> how can i type?! i'm in the installer
<4> i mean that
<4> whats the name of this config editor for nautilus/gnome?
<5> Nrbelex, you probably want eth0
<4> Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
<4> this one
<1> click apply?
<4> does it have a name?
<0> chmod775: this is not mysql support channel, ask in #mysql
<2> shoo-shu, yes.
<6> stansell: yes - I right clicked on it - then propertirs but I don't see something in the form of 198.168.2.X
<7> what is XML ?
<7> !xml
<8> htrp: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<1> done
<0> tamale: you are in the installer -- oh, okay.
<2> shoo-shu, k. Now, right click on gaim and select for install and then apply
<9> !ati
<8> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
<1> k
<3> i chose no and it's giving me a big list of examples
<3> looks like i can type my own location
<5> Nrbelex, the network tools window on ubuntu can show the address
<3> i wrote down the info from the partition table
<3> my sata drive is sda
<3> 0,0,0
<0> tamale: what type of installation are you doing? it should be custom-expert. I don't know what its showing you because I haven't done that on the ubuntu installer.
<3> scsi3
<3> oh
<5> Nrbelex, devices tab - then select eth0
<6> stansell: I got it - its not in the same form as all the other Windows IPs on the network
<5> XML: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML
<3> i'm pretty sure i'm in the right place... i just gotta figure out how to say "sda" properly at this prompt
<6> stansell: and I pinged it from windows and its good
<3> their examples are putting it in parantheses
<5> Nrbelex, what does it start with?
<3> like (hd0)
<1> okay do i click apply?
<6> stansell:127
<2> shoo-shu, yep.
<0> tamale: yes, this is grub's syntax.
<1> and all i need to install is gaim and gaim-data?
<3> ok cool
<3> so will (sda) work ok?
<2> shoo-shu, I believe that is correct.
<3> or do i need a number ?
<1> cool
<0> tamale: no
<1> its installing
<1> well dling
<2> k
<1> downloading*
<5> Nrbelex, that sounds like the loopback address - 127.0.0.1 - everyone can ping that because it means "ping myself"
<0> tamale: grub has tab complete, so hit (s<tab> or (h<tab> and see what choices it gives you
<3> ahh cool
<10> i really need some help....i emptied out my trash can, and apparently the contents on my desktop were inside it....i ***ure you i never dragged it there, not even accidentally, anyway....now everything's gone
<6> stansell: I'm an idiot - I still can't find the 192 IP address I was looking for...
<3> ahh crap, tab takes me to the continue and goback fields :(
<0> tamale: are you at the grub prompt, or somewhere else?
<6> stansell: got it
<1> done
<1> now what?
<2> shoo-shu, try starting gaim.
<0> grub prompt looks like grub>
<1> k
<1> brb
<3> i'm at the "Install GRUB boot loader on a hard disk" step of the installer
<10> can i get anything back, or is it hopeless....i take it the trash can uses the rm command or hopefully some other method????
<3> i just chose NO
<6> stansell: and I got a response when pinging from windows on the 198 IP
<5> Nrbelex, ok - cool
<11> grndslm: I don't like your chances - 'nix is very unforgiving over unintended deletes
<3> it says "The device can be specified using GRUB's notation, or as a device in /dev."
<1> nope
<1> same ****
<1> i mean.... stuff happened
<2> shoo-shu, :) sorry to hear that.
<1> :(
<5> Nrbelex, what happens if you put \\198.x.x.x (fill in the x's) in the windows explorer?
<1> where does this leave me?
<2> shoo-shu, what kind of computer is it? Pentium, amd, xeon?
<10> Frogzoo, i've definitely laughed at people for stuff like this before, but i know that the contents were not in there when i clicked "empty"...but somehow they ARE gone....this is ridiculous
<1> a compaq presario laptop
<2> shoo-shu, model?
<10> nobody has ANY words of advice for recovering accidentally deleted files?
<1> urm.......
<6> stansell: msn search comes up and says it can't be found
<1> hang on
<12> grndslm: backups.
<13> grndslm - forensic tools - linux is open source so there is hope.
<2> k
<5> Nrbelex, even with the backslashes in front?
<11> grndslm: I agree - it doesn't sound like a happy situation
<3> cool, it looks like it took /dev/sda properly
<3> i'm rebooting now
<3> YES
<3> GRUB's UP!
<14> if they are text files you can "cat /dev/hda | grep textinfile"
<3> :D
<11> grndslm: breezy or dapper?
<10> artimo, what distro would you recommend and what software??
<3> I LOVE YOU FYRESTRTR
<10> Frogzoo, breezy
<5> Nrbelex, what happens if you ping the ubuntu hostname instead of IP from windows?
<1> v2417au
<2> k. brb
<6> stansell: no - sorry - now I just we could not find... in an error box
<0> tamale: =) glad it worked
<3> what the crap! - root error 32 - selected hard disk does not exist
<3> LOL
<3> err 21
<0> tamale: you put the wrong entry in grub.
<11> grndslm: I really have no idea what could have gone wrong, but would be great to know - to save others the same pain
<0> that's okay, just edit the menu.
<0> you can do that from within grub.
<3> but at least grub actually started
<13> There is likely a much easier way but i stumbled on "Helix 1.6" and use it all the time. bootable knoppix based distro.
<3> yah
<6> stansell: I get a response
<3> it was 0,2
<3> interesting
<5> Nrbelex, ok , on windows can you bring up the search for computer? and put in the ubuntu name
<3> ok, so i have some pretty useful information for people in my situation
<14> grndslm, as long as you turned off the computer immediately - the blocks on disk should still be there
<3> the drive ordering changes between installer and grub running
<10> anybody have any forensics software they'd recommend??
<13> linux sleuth kit is just one of the dozens of apps included.
<14> grndslm, there are tools line undelete - http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/~mojo/undelete.html
<10> martyv...i signed on as soon as i realized what happened
<0> so you got it working then?
<10> martyv, you're my f'in hero
<3> yah, it's booting ubuntu
<0> good good
<3> i'll try to fix windows later
<6> stansell: I'm asked for a username and p***word
<0> tamale: fixing windows is easy.
<5> Nrbelex, excellent!
<3> probably just a fuxed boot.ini
<0> just need to add the right command, once you've logged in.
<14> grndslm, you will need something like a live cd and work with the disk unmounted to maximise your chances
<3> with the recovery console or what?
<10> martyv, i take it that that will work with ext3 also?
<6> stansell: ... but my root p***word doesn't work...
<3> can i pm you fyre?
<5> Nrbelex, have you tried your ubuntu username and p***word?
<14> grndslm, yes they are basically the same - ext3 just has journallying as an added extra
<0> tamale: I am saying if the grub entry is not correct, you can correct that from the shell (ubuntu). If Windows itself is corrupted, then you'll need to re-install it, which means that now your MBR will have the Windows bootloader, and not grub.
<15> Nrbelex, by default whenever Ubuntu asks for a p***word, it's looking for your own user pw
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