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<0> Xfce
<1> brenner: type that wrong and it could be... entertaining :P
<2> Mabus06 yes, there are a number of smaller desktops - XFCE is nice
<3> MadPilot if i have to buy a Board, I'll got socket 939 ... and build a new duel core ...
<0> IceWM is pretty good for low-med spec machines
<4> Hmm... do I go for nice, or opular?
<5> hi all, i'm trying to compile mod_perl 2.0.2 on my ubuntu server and if fails after i type make with this error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
<6> Madpilot: hehe. i was thinking the same thing
<0> Iceman: If you are planning on building a new AMD system, wait until after April. New socket set comes out around then for the Athlon line
<7> you didn't install or configure libperl, perhaps, Brendon ?
<6> Mabus06: just try them out i say...easy enough to remove if you don't like them
<4> brenner: ideally... had a bad experience trying out kde
<8> _jason: thanks buddy ()
<0> KDE is a hog, with all the bits turned on
<3> Agamotto, i'd still go 939, and april the prices will drop then .. and still give me duel core ... :)



<9> IdleOne: np
<2> Mabus06 look them up and review some screenshots
<5> Healot: i'll try that, thanks
<0> Iceman: Ok, I just thought you might wish to know. Some folks feel the need to be on the bleeding edge
<10> Question: Some of my non-GTK apps now show crappy fonts, and it seems that it happened after I installed 'msttcorefonts'. Has anyone seen this before? Do I need to find some 'font de-uglification HOWTO' like when I was using Debian?
<8> _jason: now I have to be careful when watching spanish tv...they tend to show nude women lol
<0> IdleOne: The language is quite loose as well
<11> IdleOne: umm...what channel is this you speak of?
<12> hey
<1> bshumate_: so if you have duel cores and you duel boot, which fight happens first? :P
<12> Ubuntu is created from debian right?
<8> Agamotto: my wife dont speak spanish but I do
<3> Agamotto true, like to be a step behind, cant afford $2,000 for a bleeding edge ... so Second generation does great ... :)
<10> hecate355: essentially
<12> and it has the package manager like aptitute aswell? and net-install?
<8> Unity: :p Ill never tell
<11> IdleOne: =(
<3> I build my 64 bit for $200.00 ..... and parted out my p4 ....
<12> Im just wondering how i get all of these programs like xorg, gnome etc. easily without surfing the net
<7> the duel boot first, of course
<13> Madpilot: heh heh, dunno, but all that dueling, and someone is surely gonna be on the bleeding edge alright! ;-P
<10> hecate355: former, yes; latter, I ***ume so
<8> Unity: www.unitel.tv/webtv
<0> Iceman: I tend told hold back around 3yrs.... great prices, most stuff has had all the bugs worked out
<14> hecate355: Apt-Get: Synaptic?
<7> Synaptic uses apt-get :) hehe
<12> hmm, does that AMD64 port work fine?
<0> hecate355: You could get a mag dedicated to linux that has a dvd or cds attached
<10> hecate355: IOW, it handles dependencies very well :-)
<0> Linux Format comes to mind
<1> hecate355: Ubuntu will send you CDs for free - shipit.ubuntu.com
<15> hecate yeah but 32bit binaries are far from transparent
<12> well, im download the CD image atm, rest packages i download from net right?
<3> Agamotto I follow about a year behind on the Systems i build ... still usinig a DELL 2.8 ...
<7> yeah, Ubuntu's AMD64 port cool
<15> for instance getting firefox, mplayer, flash, and java is non-trivial
<12> i have spent WHOLE night trying to get debian's 64bit edition to work
<15> the install (for me) was trivial
<12> it just ****ed badly, i hope that i dont get any troubles with this one
<10> it's all trivial
<15> and the 64 bit firefox worked fine if you didn't need flash/java
<3> Agamotto ****ed got my AMD 64 right about when the 939 came out ... there burned in and tested now, so it would be safe to move to a duel core cpu / mobo ...
<7> there is a java port for AMD64, but no flash
<3> ****s you have to bootstrap linux all the 64 bit stuff lacking support ... ;(
<2> I got mplayer working on Kubuntu AMD 64, had to build it from source
<0> Iceman: My current machine is about 4 years old, save for the GeForce 6600 video card
<15> and player depends on 32 bit codecs for many formats, so the amd64 mplayer is crippled
<15> s/player/mplayer
<3> Agamotto i got a gforce 5500 .... does me well ...
<15> which is fixable, but non-trivial
<12> whats the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu:S?
<14> hecate355: GNOME vs KDE
<16> hecate355, ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
<12> aha
<16> ubuntu > kubuntu
<3> Should look into a duel socket 754 mobo .. and get a board and second cpu ... run 2x cpu's and ubuntu 64 .... :)
<16> i had a number of issues with kubuntu
<12> so you cant change DE on Ubuntu? it stays gnome forever?
<16> ubuntu, however, is great
<7> i just install the 32bit ffox instead :)
<14> hecate355: hell no



<16> hecate355, you can change - its just defaulted to one
<14> hecate355: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
<14> try it
<14> Hell I have GNOME, XFCE, Fluxbox, and Openbox all installed :P
<0> I am running Kubuntu here, and I flip between KDE and Gnome frequently
<2> asymmetry I disagree, I'm really liking Kubuntu. Just as smooth as Ubuntu.
<3> Boy, hard decision, get a new Duel CPU socket 754 board and a Second CPU, or get a new Socket 939 64 bit cpu, and mobo ... ?
<17> well Kubuntu is Ubuntu anwyas
<16> ttread, well, congrats to you - for me, it was horrible
<14> KDE...eh I mean I see some things I like in it, but on average I'm too used to XFCE and GNOME lol
<17> Iceman, do you want a SMP kernel or just single CPU kernel?
<17> I'll go for SMP....
<3> KakiPukil Does AMD 64 Support SMP from cd ? Ubuntu distro ?
<18> Iceman: I am not sure
<3> Or would i have to install a Custom kernel ?
<18> Iceman: I think there is an SMP kernel though for amd64
<17> not from the CD, by default... you need to dl from the server...
<19> !javadebs
<17> well, just apt-get, easy right?
<3> biovore Have to wiki that one ... be nice if the kernel supports smp ...
<17> linux-amd64-k8-smp << SMP kernel for AMD64 (AMD64 specific)
<3> taking a look at WIKI for 64 bit smp ?
<3> !smp
<20> from memory, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
<3> ! smp
<20> [smp] Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
<21> argghhhh can't update packages from home dunno why
<18> ?
<16> What's the protocol for hyperthreaded procs?
<15> Healot how did you install the 32 bit firefox?
<18> asymmetry: HT?
<17> it's not only x86... any architecture can do that
<15> HT just works, but it doesn't add performance
<16> I thought there was a fancy name for that.
<15> (with an SMP kernel)
<16> Like, in the kernel config, there was something else...
<17> install it separately... using firefox official releases, not ubuntu's
<15> I'd recommend a amd64 over a dual s754, especially for home.
<15> kaki but then you don't get mplayer right?
<18> asymmetry: you need the HT process scedular and SMP for HT to work
<17> s754 is for AMD64 :)
<15> biovore thats default in 2.6
<18> I think its called sybling suport
<17> I don't use mplayer... i use xine/vlc
<18> spikebike: default on ubuntus kernel, yes..
<15> there are dual s754's?
<18> not from kernel.org though
<17> there are some out there...
<14> !fixres
<20> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
<22> how do i install .deb packages in ubuntu
<17> but way expensive///
<3> anyone know a wiki link on smp and UBUNTU 64 bit ?
<23> dpkg -i <pkgname>
<6> tim_: what is it?
<15> kaki can xine/vlc play most formats when video is embedded in a webpage? I.e. apple.com/trailers
<17> tim_, dpkg -t <package>
<22> opera
<22> for ppc
<16> SMT, that's what it is,.
<3> ! amd64
<20> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Iceman
<16> I think.
<17> yes./// spikebike there are plugins for firefox... just search for it...
<16> I haven't actually had any kind of luck compiling a custom kernel for ubuntu.
<17> seamlessly work with firefox32 bit...
<16> It always spazzes out at boot time and still boots... or it FATAL's out.
<24> How does one view the DNS server they are using, via terminal? Is it ifconfig --something ?
<18> Nunquam_Fidelis: cat /etc/resolv.conf
<25> hey anyone know what is the command to check a disk for errors?
<26> cat /etc/resolv.conf
<6> tim_: might be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
<16> Do I have to do anything special to the kernel build? Or just make, make modules, make modules_install, copy the bzImage to /boot, mkinitrd it, and modify /boot/grub/blah.lst?
<26> fsc+tab


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