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<0> just the KDE package
<1> snarf: install the kubuntu-desktop package and it will install everything you need, or you can just install kubuntu to begin with
<2> joedj, I personally much dislike it to be honest... I've tried it quite a few times, but gnome has always done what I needed it to.
<3> thanks
<4> does anybody know how can i go to winbeta server?
<4> thnkz
<0> hahaha what a Q
<5> tuxtheslacker: i'm just the opposite, i used gnome for many years but i now find KDE much nicer
<2> how can I move the updates ticker thing at the top?
<1> hasan: "go to"?
<2> joedj, I've started in kde, and keep coming back... :-P
<1> discussions about desktop preferences in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
<2> sorry :-P
<2> but seriously, how do I move the update manager icon in gnome?
<1> tuxtheslacker: the little icon that appears when there are updates?
<2> Ng, mmhmm.
<2> I want to remove the top bar.
<6> hi there, i got a little problem here, after i install xfce4 from repo, i don't know where to switch to turn xfce4 on...sorry it's a newbie question...i can't from any option in logout window...thanks
<1> tuxtheslacker: it's a systray icon, so you'd need to move the systray panel applet to another panel (right click on it and untick "Lock", then you can drag it around, possibly with the middle mouse button)
<7> tuxtheslacker: the entire top panel? right click on it and select delete this panel
<1> zeelot: log out and on the main login screen there should be some options for choosing your session type
<8> zeelot: "SESSION"
<6> okey thanks Ng, salman!
<9> is there a command to install java ?
<9> or must i go to the site ?
<10> Corey: /msg ubotu javadebs
<2> aha!
<2> Did it :-P
<1> !tell Corey about RestrictedFormats
<2> how hard is java to install in ubuntu?
<1> Corey: ubotu just sent you a link, it has instructions for installing Sun's Java
<1> !tell tuxtheslacker about RestrictedFormats
<11> tuxtheslacker: enabled universe and multivers and do: apt-cache search java
<1> tuxtheslacker: it's pretty easy
<11> !java
<12> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
<1> the javadebs factoid tells you to install 1.4, which is blackdown, and ****s. Install the Sun one from the RestrictedFormats page :)
<9> thanks
<9> for anyone who needs to install java just type this in terminal
<9> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
<1> I would recommend not doing that
<9> ...
<9> its ont he ubuntu site.
<1> read what I just said about the javadebs factoid :)
<5> Corey: that is Blackdown's java rather than Sun's
<9> how do i install suns ?
<1> I told you that too
<9> sorry reading now
<2> where do I see running processes to delete?
<1> tuxtheslacker: terminal or graphical?
<13> does anybody know how to use card readers in Ubuntu?
<1> azimuth: like a USB memory card reader? they ought to Just Work
<14> Does anyone know if there are extensions for the clock in the top right on the screen in Ubuntu to make it into a calendar?
<1> Celestianpower: click on it, it should show you a calendar
<8> tuxtheslacker:
<2> yes?
<8> tuxtheslacker: open terminal
<8> ps uux
<14> Ng: Yes, but you can't input stuff
<8> ps aux
<14> Like On the 24, I have to do blahblahblah
<8> kill xxxx
<2> oh yeha, if you're gonna do it the hard way :-P
<1> Celestianpower: yeah it's a read-only view, but it should link into Evolution's calendar
<8> killall xxxxxxx
<13> i have a card reader in my laptop
<2> :-P
<13> inserted the MemoryStick
<13> what next to access the card?
<15> ola
<1> tuxtheslacker: the System Monitor (in the menus somewhere) can browse/kill processes
<2> yeah, i think my usb slots are pooched... :-/.
<14> Ng: I can't get going with eVOLUTION
<14> I should do really
<1> azimuth: hmm, it ought to automount, but if it's built into the laptop it might be weird hardware and not supported :/
<15> ola ablas espaol
<1> Celestianpower: I don't know of any other way of getting things in there, because afaik it just talks to evolution-data-server
<1> !es
<12> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
<13> pity
<15> ola ablas espaol
<1> azimuth: there is an ubuntu laptop team (search the wiki), perhaps they can shed some light on the issue?
<14> Ng: That was it - what does it want in the server field?
<14> Evolution that is
<15> ola
<16> hi guys. I need how to for installing irtrans. Please help.
<1> Celestianpower: that's probably asking for your email settings. you don't have to give it any, you can just leave that unconfigured if you want and use the local calendar
<17> can I write some command to see what version of ubuntu I've got installed?
<1> Marlun: lsb_release -a
<15> adios
<14> Ng: No, because it won't let me continue
<1> Celestianpower: is it a wizard thing? can you just cancel it?
<17> Ng: thanks, I'll try it.
<14> Ng: It just closes if I press cancel
<18> is there a way to monitor if users run command on specific files?
<18> e.g. if i wanted to log all commands when users read/write files in etc from command line?
<19> snowfaked, there is capacity in the kernel to perform onaccess actions of various sorts, but you'd probably have to go for something like rootsh and just log everything..
<6> hey there thanks for your help i'm using xfce4 now and it's really simple UI!
<19> snowfaked, unless you felt like some coding. I'm not sure if there's anything that will do specific file-by-file auditing.
<20> snowfaked: take a look at dnotify
<9> um..i just tried to install and it said something about i should become a non-rootuser !?
<1> zeelot: :)
<6> thanks Ng~
<6> you guys are nice~
<1> we try :)
<9> You are real root -- unfortunately, some Java distributions have
<9> install scripts that directly manipulate /etc, and may cause some
<9> inconsistencies on your system. Instead, you should become a
<9> non-root user and run:
<9> fakeroot make-jpkg /home/admin/jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin
<9> which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and
<9> still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract.
<9> sorry !
<6> i got to get familiar with this interface right now~ha
<20> !enter
<12> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
<1> snowfaked: bash logs user commands to a file called .bash_history in their home directories - you can override that in the global bash settings, so you could have them log somewhere else and grep them repeatedly for whatever you're looking for, but that's a bit hacky
<18> njan: ok, i guess i just need to use process account for logging eveything and parse the file to suit my needs
<19> Ng, it's hacky and insecure
<1> Corey: install the fakeroot package and do what the error says
<19> Ng, it's very, very trivial to byp***
<9> fakeroot package?
<19> Ng, either using history -c or unsetting the history variable
<16> Is any one ever setup irtrans? Need help on how to. PLEASE
<1> njan: you can prevent users from changing given variables, but yes, it's still possible to work round it easily enough
<1> Corey: the package called fakeroot. install it with synaptic or apt-get
<19> Ng, to the point at which it's not really worth bother with, unfortunately.
<9> ok
<1> njan: depends how much you trust your users and how much you actually want to monitor them I suppose
<21> sup linux lovers ;-)
<19> Ng, sure - but messing around with .bash_history is just as hard as just setting up rootsh, and rootsh actually is half-way secure. At least compared to .bash_history :)
<1> Corey: any time someone tells you to install some package or other, we mean use synaptic or apt-get :)
<19> rootsh syslogs, too, which means you can log it off the box, so even if it isn't secure, it's at least logged offbox, so you have some sort of tamperproofing.
<9> Ng: yeah fakeroot wal aready installed and newest version
<1> excellent
<9> Ng: when i try toinstall something it gives me an erorr sayingi shouldnt bea root
<20> Corey: and are you logged in as root?
<9> my uuser has root settings
<9> I went to usergroups and changed my thing to root
<20> Corey: synaptic should be run as nonroot - apt-get install as root
<20> Corey: ubuntu prevents root access for a reason, btw
<9> its an apt-get thing !
<22> for some reason, I cannot type the character 'b' in gnome terminal
<21> lol
<1> Corey: that's ok, it's just because of the way the sun java deb making process works
<20> Corey: 'apt-get install' should work
<22> i can in any other program..
<23> in synaptic is there a C compiler i can install?
<20> sohmestra: have you changed key maps? or is your kb just broken?
<9> its coming up with abort
<1> rencrash: build-essential includes most of the basics you need to compile things
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