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<0> ompaul: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<1> amarokker: without looking at the logfiles I don't know
<2> strange question: where is the <Super> key? i'm on german QWERTZ
<3> shocktrooper1: investigate the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
<4> megaman123, just install package "build-essential". that will have make, and gcc, and a bunch of other build stuff
<5> !build-essential
<0> build-essential is probably a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
<1> OrganStoff: it usaully means the "Windows" key
<6> judah, did that too. :D
<7> nanotube: thanks :)
<1> OrganStoff: at least on American QWERTY
<8> Rhythmbox can't read any media I've tried so far. Keeps saying "not a valid stream"
<9> there's something odd with the UI elements that control volume: if i drag the slider up, it goes down, and the whole thing is flipped
<10> Hello
<4> megaman123, no prob :) that's probably one of the most asked questions about ubuntu. for some reason unknown to anyone i asked, ubuntu doesn't include the dev-tools in the default install. so everyone always asks "hey, why can't i build source packages" :)
<11> !tell warpzone about restricted



<12> Kyral_FreeBSD: I'll be happy to show them to you- in a min.
<13> are you looking at the screen upside down Jonne?
<4> fissy, haha
<3> nanotube: because supported packages are already in binary format.
<9> no
<11> warpzone: you probably need to install the proper codecs to play the stream, take a look at the guide ubotu pointed you too in the pm :)
<12> Kyral_FreeBSD: Before we do that, are there any logging directives that needs to be enabled in the conf file?
<1> nanotube: the official position (when I asked) was basically, "Your grandmother doesn't need GCC"
<13> :(
<3> nanotube: in theory default users would have no reason to build software.
<14> geeksauce: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/current/installcd
<15> how importand is dirmngr for my system?
<1> amarokker: no idea, never used it
<8> tristanmike: will do, thanks man
<13> Jonne, that's a very weird bug. Have you tried searching for it in the ubuntu bugs database?
<16> anyone have experience using ubuntu as a voicemail system? what software is easy?
<12> gack! Am I the only one then :D
<10> I really need special help with samba : I can see windows computer on my network and I can do what I want with the files... But windows computer can see my samba serveur but don't have permission to access...
<10> Can anyone help me please?
<4> judah, that's really a bad excuse. especially since as time gets further from release time, default packages get older, and there is more need to install new versions from outside the repos. at least its a bad excuse in my opinion
<9> i'm using google, but i'm at a loss what exactly to look for
<9> which keywords
<17> arnau1; did you make a user acount with samba?
<18> hi, anyone: why am i getting "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no" when trying to compile mail-notification (sorry if this is a dumb-*** q!)
<15> how important is dirmngr for my system? what does it do?
<10> I did
<1> nanotube: rumblings on the -Devel ML are pushing it to be in Edgy by default
<4> Kyral_FreeBSD, heh yea, that's a pretty poorly supported position. after all, your grandmother doesn't need "ls" either :)
<10> it is mine
<4> Kyral_FreeBSD, woot! yea, that's cool :)
<19> My email requires Kerberos authentication... how do I install Kerberos?
<10> arnaud!
<12> Kyral_FreeBSD: tried proftpd too- but i cant figure out why it wouldnt work- and when I checked I couldnt find any firewalls installed either...ftp does work on local host though
<1> nanotube: Nautilus prolly calls ls :P
<3> nanotube: it's actually a very valid reason. i'm sure ubuntu as a company, redhat, suse and the like.. will only want to officially support their own built binary packages..
<3> nanotube: you take things into your own hands when building software. so you should know that you'll need those extra tools.
<4> Kyral_FreeBSD, hehe well yea, but you know what i mean :)
<1> judah: Actually...Canonical is the company....(Seveas, ompaul, correct me if I am wrong)
<17> what does: sudo testparm tells you about the shared folder?
<3> right canonical
<20> Kyral_FreeBSD, you are wrong, but that fact was correct ;)
<10> I don't know what's wrong with my samba...
<1> Thanks Seveas
<3> nanotube: there's no reason to ship them installed by default. which is why they don't. i'm sure there have been many debates over the subject.
<13> [Jonne]: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/41999
<16> amarokker, was proftpd running and not working? like did you verify that the service was running
<21> why a basic user couldn't install software that don't require root privileges ?
<17> arnau1: what does: sudo testparm tells you about the shared folder?
<16> i have proftpd working
<4> judah, yea, but the problem is, even experienced linux users get nonplussed when they try to build stuff and notice no build tools. grandma would just ignore the presence of gcc, and not use it. so what's the problem
<1> mirak: compile with "--prefix=$HOME"
<3> nanotube: now that's a bad excuse..
<8> Tristanmike: worked like a charm! thanks a bunch man!
<22> i have a problem with firefox, i'm trying to enter a website wich doesn't support encription
<1> mirak: that SHOULD compile into your home directory
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: I am talking about apt
<13> [Jonne]: let me know if that fixes it
<21> Kyral: in /
<3> build-essential has been here since the dawn fo time.
<11> warpzone: you are more than welcome, glad you found your way :D



<10> Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
<10> Processing section "[printers]"
<10> Processing section "[print$]"
<10> Processing section "[commun]"
<10> Processing section "[share]"
<10> Loaded services file OK.
<4> judah, heh, well, it's bad excuses all around, then, isn't it. :)
<1> mirak: because the process of installing it writes to root owned dirs
<10> WARNING: p***db expand explicit = yes is deprecated
<10> Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
<12> gavagai: if you can test it for me, I'll be more than glad to apt-get it once more and go check it again. wait a bit...am on it right nnow
<20> mirak, apt has options to install in /home
<1> mirak: welcome to Unix security 101
<23> nanotube, If your an experienced unix user then you're smart enought o find out how to get the dev packages
<3> nanotube: ;)
<20> (or wherever you want)
<22> is there a way to disable it so i can get in that website?
<17> arnau1: press enter after he gives you that to see the dump
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: yes but if you only allow authenticated packages
<16> amarokker, and if you are behind a router you need to configure the router
<4> judah, you know, i personally don't have any problem with build essential. when i first wanted to build from source on ubuntu, i was like "wtf" and went and searched the wiki/forums, and found build-essential.
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: the install can still be suid anyway
<1> mirak: doesn't matter. We won't break the tried and true method. It works, it works fine. And its secure
<3> nanotube: you'd not used debian in the past them i guess. ;)
<15> how important is dirmngr for my system?
<4> judah, my problem is basically that this question is one of the most frequently asked on the ubuntu forums. so, if people keep having to ask, clearly there is something wrong with there not being gcc and make by default
<24> Hey, anyone got the fglrx packages installed in Dapper?
<4> judah, yea i came from freebsd :)
<1> Google Earth for Linux installs into $HOME if you are that careful
<13> Mastus: yes
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: then why not provide a USER repository with precompiled package that apt would install in ~/ ?
<22> is there any security settings i should be looking for to disable and surf websites without encription?
<1> mirak: 1) $HOME isn't in the PATH
<25> which app can convert my mpg to mp3?
<24> fissy: Do you have the fglrx-control package?
<3> nanotube: and again i think that's the wrong ***umption.. but everyone has their own opinnions in this line of vi/emacs/blue/green world..
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: so what ? only a user need it in the $PATH
<20> MetaMorfoziS, mencoder
<12> gavagai: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Tijcqa22.html
<1> mirak: but the other system programs won't have it
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: $PATH/fakeroot/
<13> Mastus: i've got it installed, but i never use it
<3> nanotube: do you really want gcc installed on a production enterprise server running critial apps that are very specific.
<26> could someone please suggest a good way to pinpoint a complete os crash?
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: /home/$USER/fakeroot/
<3> nanotube: there's no reason to have a compiler there generally.
<27> what is the command to see how much free hard disk space i have?
<26> it seems to happen at random
<25> and how?
<1> mirak: again, what if apache needs it?
<20> cajun, df -h
<1> apache runs as its own user
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD: why would apache needs it ?
<4> judah, well, it could be excluded from a server install. :)
<15> No one knows if dirmngr is important to my system? Ubuntu hangs on bootup. CAn dirmngr be disabled?
<5> mirak, if you want it put into a spec wiki.ubuntu.com or request in launchpad.net not for here
<22> can anyone tell me something about my problem?
<3> nanotube: bah!
<1> oy...
<21> ompaul: I was thinking of doing that
<4> judah, but anyway, see, my general thinking is that ubuntuforums should act as kind of a sounding board for what needs to be worked on
<27> thx
<24> fissy: But do you have the tv-out tab in it? It was in earlier (Breezy) version of the drivers... Can't get the friggin' thing to work
<3> nanotube: you need gcc to have a desktop installation on a business desktop somewhere where there are 2000 clients installed.
<26> it might have something to do with sound, because it only happens after a time with rhythmbox open. but i always have music playing, so it's difficult to tell
<1> mirak: Think about it this way. What benefits would it have over the current system?
<3> nanotube: absolutely.
<1> the current system has worked for 20+ years
<21> Kyral_FreeBSD ompaul : I think linux can allow itslef great things as long as it's done right
<20> judah, that is one of the places where gcc is least needed...
<3> nanotube: what's stopping you from posting a thread?
<4> judah, so eg, if you see a lot of people ask "what's up with no root permissions" and everyone keeps telling them "you need to use sudo", you have to start thinking - can we do anything to give a warning to people every time they open a terminal, so that they don't have to ask?


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