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<0> delmar: newer packages, more work done on making it user friendly, is faster, and will be supported for approximately eleventy billion years
<1> i'm so used to using apt-get how do i deal with the tarball?
<2> Ademan: takes 2 seconds to rename the file
<0> delmar: ok so only 3 years of support, but that's a lifetime
<2> Ademan: easy fix
<3> spikeb, yep. so i should upgrade?
<0> delmar: when it goes stable, yeah
<0> delmar: i would recommend that :)
<3> spikeb, ive been playing with Debian "unstable" for years. prefer that because the packages are much newer
<4> ok, so anyone as here as experience installing ubuntu / kubuntu on a ibook G4 ?
<3> spikeb, so if its like that.. i might as well gib that a go
<2> I can imagine running anything thats 3 years old in Linux
<2> cant*
<0> delmar: heh, i hated unstable
<0> delmar: when i ran debian, i was one of the few who actually ran stable
<3> spikeb, do u run Dapper now?



<0> delmar: yes, in fact im running dapper beta, oddly enough
<3> spikeb, well i certainly don't run unstable on my colo server... its not for playing with :P
<2> I run stable (debain) to this day on the file server at work, rock solid
<2> debian*
<0> delmar: i dont plan on upgrading until the next long term service release comes out, though :)
<1> so far it hasnt crashed
<3> spikeb, ok.. so I take it I just need to change some apt sources, apt-get update, and dist-upgrade and its on the way.. or is there more too it? hrm.
<0> !upgrade
<5> [upgrade] Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
<0> delmar: check out the links
<2> Debian stable is a good excuse to be lazy,, I keep it updated lol
<0> heh, debian stable, centos, and now dapper LTS - all my favorites have one thing in common - long release cycles
<3> linux_galore, yep. i still got hacked tho
<3> linux_galore, but that was more the package itself that allowed the exploit.
<2> delmar: not me, not for years to be honest, got a T1 at work heaps of linux machines and never been hacked
<3> linux_galore, anoyingly the package in question.. i was on their site and downloaded a security patch that was released that very day... then they released a patch for that particular exploit a couple days later.. and i missed it.
<2> delmar: only got hacked one on a dial up connection about 6 years ago
<2> once*
<6> :o my laptop's tft is blinking
<3> linux_galore, this wasnt a hack so much as it was just being a pain in the arse
<6> wonder what causes it... haven't changed any settings from yesterday
<3> linux_galore, hacked would mean root access or shell access.. they couldnt get that far
<7> Does anyone know if the final release of dapper is still on schedule for 1st june?
<0> IEdmont: yup
<3> linux_galore, too much encryption... my wife setup the encryption tighter than her u know where.. and thats saying something :P
<2> delmar: be suprised if they actually got into the network, three firewall and an IDS packet filter
<8> is there somewhere to get more recent kernels for ubuntu?
<7> excellent thanks
<8> I'm on the 2.6.12-10-686 kernel atm
<9> Has anyone done the upgrade to Gamin v. 0.1.7 in Ubuntu 5.10?
<6> hmh, can i check refrsh rate from somewhere else than from "screen resolution preferences" in gnome?
<10> Youssef***ad: you can get the latest one by updating to ubuntu 6.06 beta
<2> delmar: there are some distro that have everythong encrypted even the file system and swap
<6> this shows my refresh rate would only be 50Hz
<10> its going to come out in 2 weeks
<10> well the release is gonna come out in 2 weeks
<10> the beta (flight 7) was out a week ago
<10> !flight 7
<5> poningru: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<10> !flight7
<5> I heard flight7 is available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
<8> poningru: Hmm. That's an option I agree. No clear options for 5.10 users though?
<2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7
<3> linux_galore, yeah i setup my own bawx with some cryptoFS. had the sql, mail, www, logs, home dirs... all encrypted... only snag was .. if the box was rebooted.. u had to login to run the script and enter the p*** phrases to mount the encrypted volumes and start the effected services
<10> Youssef***ad: you can compile it yourself
<10> !kernel
<10> ubotu: kernel
<2> delmar: I did the crpto stuff on a system, hardisk got a bad sector and the whole thing went south
<11> I am trying to use the regexcoach application on Ubuntu. it doesn't start and states it cannot find libXm.so.2... Anyone know how I can get this? I believe it is part of a motif lib or something but am not sure
<3> linux_galore, i guess u need some raid mirror to help that :P
<2> delmar: I just use LIDS now and I tell everyone not to leave private stuff on there machine but dump it in the virtual data safe (secure file server)
<12> Anyone with a Creative Webcam NX Pro got it working ? (it always says "No space left on device" and I have tried a lot of how-tos (I have AMD64)
<3> u know what.. since the stable release of Dapper is so close... all going to plan of course.... I am better go sit tight for now.
<2> JinRoh: its very beta right now
<13> Dapper Drake CD 40% downloaded
<12> linux_galore, what is very beta?
<14> almost gamma
<13> what does Flight 7 mean



<3> So... back to my Scanner problem.... I have a Microtek scanmaker 3800... i would have at least expected the logs to make some kinda song and dance when I plug it in, or to at least see some mention of it in /proc/bus/usb/devices or something but no... it works find when i boot to windows so .. hardware is ok. anyone have any ideas?
<15> Bilford: not sure but i guess it's something in the line of "Test Flight Number 7"
<13> ok
<16> What should i do if i whant GDM instead for KDM? I have KDM now but i whant to switch to GDM.
<14> 'flight' is the codename for test releases of dapper drake
<17> you speak english
<13> __filip_, do a fresh install of Dapper Drake
<18> do you need a anti virus, anti spyware and firewall with linux?
<19> how do I figure out what domain name I used when I installed networking on ubuntu?
<20> Calgar, in short, no
<16> Bilford: Is there no other way?
<19> Calgar: I use firestarter
<19> it's a firewall
<18> ah, so i need a firewall, but nothing else?
<19> Calgar: sudo apt-get install firestarter
<13> http://192.168.1.1/ ?
<19> Calgar: don't run programs from root
<21> hello. can anyone help me with setting up amule through a proxy ? someone who's done that before ?
<18> BilFord: thats the address of my router?
<13> Calgar- Linksys
<18> Bilford: no
<18> Bilford: its actualy made by a company called addon, with a texus instruments chipset
<19> anyone?
<2> bugger found a really nice howto for setting up the Creative NX webcam with Ubuntu but its spannish ->http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=4288
<18> altavista?
<13> use Google page translator
<18> Bilford: googles translation of spanish is....... rubbish
<13> lol
<22> how do I run a command recursively on files in a directory?
<2> well the command line stuff is in english
<2> Stormx2: usuall -r or -R
<2> usually*
<20> Stormx2, for f1 in * ; do echo $f1;done
<22> linux_galore: Its a command I wrote ^_^
<22> dli: Where do I put in the command name, in place of echo?
<2> Stormx2: yes but msot of the shell apps have a recursive option
<20> Stormx2, play with it in a tmp folder with your copies
<22> linux_galore: As I just said, its an app that I wrote.
<18> odd, i think my [add aplications] window has crashed, well, i cant find the status popup anyway........
<18> help? please
<8> funny, using gnome makes me relax a little while working. openbox made me frantic
<23> can i install rpm and debian packages on ubuntu
<24> I just read how to install nvidia drivers; doesn't it work in easy way - just running sudo sh NV....pkg1.run --x-prefix=/usr/lib/xorg ?
<23> ????
<8> (don't tell my boss!)
<20> Calgar, it will prompt you when updates are available
<25> w00l909: not advisable
<20> w00l909, better to search in repository, rpm ****s
<2> klerfayt: theres an even easier way, use easyubuntu
<18> dil: umm, i was trying to add firestarter
<20> Calgar, if you are running services on your boxes, you do need firewall, if not (the default), you don't need firewall
<18> dil: oh.......
<2> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
<18> dil: so how do i fix my broken [add aplications] window?
<8> crap, can't find a way to make evolution download _all_ the mail on gmail, even old and read
<22> dli: I don't think thats going recursively into directories is it?
<20> Calgar, i don't know your issue, not enough info
<2> Youssef***ad: gmail isnt a real mail server
<12> "/dev/video: No space left on device" when trying to get webcam working , anyone know how to fix it? I have installed spca5xx with webcam nx pro (creative)
<23> dli thanks
<20> Stormx2, be specific, I'm not good at guessing
<26> Youssef***ad, have you enabled gmail POP for all mail?
<18> dil: i ticked the box, clicked apply then ok, switched windows to chatzilla, and now everything in my add apliactions window is greyed out and the status popup is gone
<22> dli: Well i'm running the command you said in a directory, and the command is running on files in that directory, but not on files in subdirectories.
<8> snowblink: yessir
<20> Calgar, you mean synaptic?
<9> Heh, fixed my gam_server issue :|
<25> Stormx2: something like for each in $(ls -R) ; do foo $each ; done
<18> dil: no, i mean the first option under system -> administration
<23> does anyone know how to remove security from pdf or know where should i ask in what channel in mirc
<23> ?
<9> w00l909: Should be File > Options
<18> dil: its just called "add applications"
<9> Although I think mIRC removed it from under File.


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