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<0> brb
<1> Kyral_FreeBSD: Thats nice to know and quite useful if you happen to be a hardened linux-user....and I am not one.
<1> :(
<2> is there an apt-get command to update a particular program (e.g., fluxbox) to the newest version, without uninstalling and reinstalling? or is it a different process for every application?
<3> niki, apt-get install fluxbox
<4> or upgrade
<2> pppoe_dude, that's it? you just install it again
<3> niki, apt-get upgrade will update the whole system
<5> jrattner1: why? Like I said there is a module in Perl for it
<2> pppoe_dude, oh, ok, good...i'm actually doing that right now :D
<3> niki, install will look for the new version and upgrade fluxbox
<5> Hell its in the Core Modules
<4> Kyral, ive never heard of the module any chance you have a link im just curious abou tit
<6> dont ubuntu come with aptitude yet?
<5> jrattner1: perldoc Net::SMTP
<7> How do I set gnome to display the border only when moving windows?



<8> ok
<4> Kyral_FreeBSD, thanks
<9> what are the chances that mail-notification was compiled without ssl support for dapper?
<2> pppoe_dude, thx :)
<10> niki: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update everything or after running the sudo apt-get update you can run sudo apt-get upgrade <packagename>
<4> tenco, sim it works with gmail which uses SSL
<8> my terminal is in home directory, so i tyoe this sudo mv - fr /ludlows/ /var/www/
<4> tenco, *slim
<11> How do I tell what hardware support I have compiled into my current kernel? It's the default Ubuntu 5.10 one, is that listed anywhere?
<8> that will copy the file?
<2> gnomefreak, so to update _just_ fluxbox, i would do 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade fluxbox' ?
<12> josh: mv moves files, cp copies them
<4> josh, is ludlows the directory of the website?
<8> yeh
<13> tenco: there's no ssl support for mail-notification
<10> niki: yes
<13> tenco: i'm using gnubiff instead
<2> gnomefreak, got it, thx :)
<9> wastrel: thanks
<4> josh, to COPY it there use cp -fr /home/UserName/ludlows /var/ww
<3> gnomefreak, is apt-get install <package name> different than apt-get upgrade <package name> when the package is already installed?
<13> well no ssl for imap anyway
<4> josh, use mv to MOVE it there
<5> whee blasting my server with Nessus
<2> yeah, what's the difference in apt-get install and apt-get upgrade?
<14> if make is failing to find X11/Intrinsic.h and X11/StringDefs.h then what dependency am i missing? I have xserver-xorg-dev
<10> pppoe_dude: apt-get install <packagename> wont install a package that is installed already it will tell you newest version is installed already
<9> wastrel: no imap, i tried to use ssl with pop3
<4> josh, do you want the directory there or just the file in the direcotory there?
<5> niki: install installs one package (or more if listed)
<15> i'm trying to see my pcmcia CF reader in ubuntu, any ideas?
<5> upgrade updates everything
<8> directory
<16> hello guys... i have a wierd problem: I can't bring up my loopback interface
<14> niki - the first installs one or more programs that you specify. the second offers to upgrade all packages that have updates
<4> !hardware
<17> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
<16> ifup lo
<16> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
<16> lo: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
<16> Failed to bring up lo.
<13> dunno from pop i'm all imap nowadays
<4> zanzabuntu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
<13> but gnubiff works good
<2> obscurite, upgrade upgrades all packages that have updates...so what's the difference in upgrade and dist-upgrade? because i thought that was what dist-upgrade did?
<10> ubotu tell blitzfire -about paste
<4> imap is good :)
<16> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
<16> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
<16> lo: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
<16> paste?
<16> oh
<16> sorry
<14> niki - dist-upgrade upgrades you from one version of the OS to the next. breezy -> dapper for the last release
<10> niki: dist-upgrade will upgrade things that upgrade wont
<10> obscurite: thats not true
<2> gnomefreak, but dist-upgrade takes waaaay longer, right?
<18> hello!i would like to compile a kernel with # make xconfig, but it says i haven't qt.how can i install it?
<14> gnomefreak - ok, then set the record straight
<8> jrattner1: i wanna copy the directory



<10> dist-upgrade has _nothing_ to do with upgrading versions
<4> josh, yep then stick with what i said use cp instead of mv
<16> sorry for pasting, anyway, my loopback interface is not coming up and I can't tell why...
<2> gnomefreak, that's not what i was told fifteen minutes ago when i asked how to upgrade to the newest version of dapper :/
<10> niki: not really but it will upgrade kernels if there is an updated version of your kernel installed
<8> so what would be the command
<14> anyone know what dependency i might be missing for X11/Intrinsic.h and X11/StringDefs.h ?
<10> obscurite: the thing that upgrades your version is changing the sources.list file
<16> is there a kernel module or a daemon that handles loopback device?
<14> gnomefreak - thanks :)
<10> niki: what are you on right now breezy or dapper?
<2> gnomefreak, when you do a dist-upgrade, is your sources.list automatically changed? i'm using dapper, pre-release...doing a dist-upgrade as we speak
<10> niki: no
<19> Alex_BO, you could try make menuconfig
<10> niki: now dist-upgrade will grab the latest kernel for dapper adn so on
<18> pradeep, yes i know, but i would like using xconfig
<2> gnomefreak, i was doing a dist-upgrade to bring dapper to post-release status...is that worng?
<2> *wrong
<10> niki: if you run upgrade it will _not_ grab bewest kernel
<10> niki: no thats fine
<11> Where do I go to find the hardware supported in the basic kernel for Breezy?
<2> gnomefreak, oh good...cuz its been doing it for like 25 minutes lol
<10> s/bewest/newest
<2> gnomefreak, so when dist-upgrade is done, it would be a good idea to update my sources.list?
<10> niki: it has alot of updates to do think of it like this dist-upgrade is the same as if you clicked the red icon and opened up the gui updater
<8> jrattner1: so what would be the command
<10> niki: you dont have to touch your sources.list if you are running dapper
<20> is there any way to get my taskbar mail notifier to check for new mail without keeping the evolution window open?
<2> gnomefreak, sweet, thanks :)
<10> Frogzoo: mail-notifier
<21> does anyone here know anything about xinerama? or am i just being ignored
<10> Frogzoo: gnubiff
<20> gnomefreak: thx, I'll check it out
<13> <3 gnubiff
<2> Sphygmos, what's xinerama?
<10> !xinerama
<17> Check these URLs out and hopefully it works for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors maybe http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/Xinerama-HOWTO/
<10> eh
<10> niki: its to enable 2 montiers
<22> !mp2
<17> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Ex0r]
<22> !mp3
<10> monitors even
<17> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
<4> josh, cp -fr
<2> gnomefreak, ah, bummer...i was hoping it was a decent video editor (which i've yet to find on linux)
<23> hi anyone home? :)
<24> Does anyone have any idea/s why amarok would switch my sound card back and forth on every song change???
<11> hrm someone want to give me some pointers as to how I'd go about installing a new scsi card's device drivers in linux/ubuntu?
<25> niki, what about avidemux?
<2> aimaz, never heard of that one
<26> Sphygmos: i told oyu already, try reading my messages
<25> i was suprised that it did what i wanted easily
<23> why would i be getting this error when connecting to an austnet server?
<25> niki it's in apt iirc
<9> wastrel: is gnubiff in main or universe/multiverse?
<6> niki: cinnelerra
<23> bottler bots are not welcomed on this network
<23> --- *** (G) Banned from AustNet: bottler bots are not welcomed on this network.
<27> does anyone know if the Desktop CD has a kernel deb on it?
<13> tenco: universe
<2> Tomze, i really like cinelerra, but it crashes when i switch to ALSA on playback
<6> hmm
<8> says cannot stat
<26> Sphygmos: are you running nvidia!?
<2> Tomze, and i don't want to use OSS
<22> so basically there is no way to get ubuntu to support mp3 ?
<8> says cp cannot stat
<26> can anyone else see my messages?
<2> uXp, yes
<27> !tell [Ex0r] about mp3
<10> venom: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #debian-bots
<23> ok


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