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<0> can someone pls tell me how big my swap partition should be? i've got a gig of memory
<1> i've googled for an hour
<2> DBO, it is checked already
<3> yea going to try that now
<3> brb
<4> money, did you see that info page link I JUST posted
<5> skpl, hrm... are you sure they are mounted?
<4> read
<1> nomaster, i'll try that link you gave me, i hope it works
<6> UserX, rule of thumb is 2x your system RAM
<4> it will
<5> money, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75372.html
<2> DBO, /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
<2> /dev/hda2 on /media/hda2 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=10
<0> lone_marauder, currently im using 512meg, am i at risk of something bad happening
<2> oops, pardon that



<2> never again
<6> UserX, you are using 512 megs of swap?
<7> UserX, don't worry about how much swap, really.
<1> npomsater, i couldn't follow that link i dont even have grub, i have lilo
<5> skpl, are they showing up under the places menu?
<0> lone_marauder, yeah 512 megs of swap with a gig of ram
<1> DBO: i can't follow that either, i only have one floppy
<1> that page says i need 5
<4> money, if you are installing ubuntu, why do you have lilo?
<8> 1 got 1 gig swap
<9> good lord, was all of that a names list that just scrolled past me
<5> money, there are dirt cheap...
<9> this channel is insanely full
<4> money, you can get them from local dumpsters
<7> static_, UserX, how much swap you're using isn't really an issue. anything like 512/1GiB is fine.
<4> really
<6> UserX, Ok - you have a 512 meg swap partition - the world will not end.
<7> nickrud, 661 in total.
<4> especially computer stores
<6> UserX, That isn't really a problem.
<8> yea
<4> or wal-mart
<1> i wish my damn cd drive it qworked, i didn't get that usb error when i isntalled again so maybe it works this time
<2> DBO, no
<2> they are not
<0> YukiCuss, lone_marauder, ok thanks guys ... i will not worry about it
<2> what should i do
<2> ;)
<1> what is the best small fast linux tool for burning isos?
<9> hmmm, i was here the other night when my x server went awol
<9> had to do a reinstall :/
<8> theoreticlyy its supposed to be half ur main memory size
<4> money, a faster computer and cdrecord
<7> static_, not at all.
<7> static_, some say half, some say double, some say equal, some say none at all.
<5> skpl, pray someone smarter than me comes along
<8> oh ok
<10> I'm gettint this:
<1> whats a good tool for burning isos on linux?
<10> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'. Stop.
<7> money, cdrecord.
<10> What is the problem there?
<4> money, CDRECORD.. read what we post here
<10> money: nautillus?
<11> static_, it's better if it's at or above your main memory size.
<5> static_, thats not true, because if it is less than your memory size, you cant properly initiate a "hybernate" type state where all your RAM gets offloaded to swap so it can turn off RAM
<7> DBO, as far as I know, it does /not/ go to swap.
<11> You really want it larger. I know this from experience :-/
<7> DBO, as swap memory is /also/ required.
<8> mines actually on 1.6 gigs swap my main memory is 512
<1> i don't know hjow to use cd record
<5> YukiCuss, sorry, Im not familiar with how that works in linux, that IS how it does it in windows (rather stupidly)
<8> so i guess i didnt follow what i read hehe
<7> DBO, weird!
<6> money - man cdrecord - scroll down to the examples section.
<5> YukiCuss, dont run linux on any laptops (since I dont own any) so I never had to try...
<7> DBO, I'm a bit tenative about using hibernate anyway, as I've heard that it doesn't work in many instanceas.
<7> -a
<1> there is no man here for that
<2> NOW



<7> skpl, ...?
<2> maybe when i reboot, who knows.
<8> any one from LA?
<6> you have cdrecord but not the man page?
<5> skpl, I dont think that is the issue...
<2> ok
<12> hmm, hal keeps thinking my wireless network device is a wired one and ***iging it eth1 instead of wlan0, and the light isn't comming on despite ndiswrapper reporting both the device and driver are present..
<1> where is a small iso file i can download as a test?
<5> YukiCuss, suspend 2 (hibernate) is rather useless anyhow...
<12> can anyone shed more info on this?
<7> DBO, it figures, yes. I've never really had an occasion where I've wanted to test ..
<13> YukiCuss, it definitely doesn't go to swap in w2k, where it stupidly wasting even more space creates a third file, c:\hiberfil.sys
<7> Juhaz, I was under the impression that it did do that, yes.
<7> Juhaz, though, it's necessary.
<1> im an ***hole, im a stupid *** bitch, i wish someone would crush my kneecaps with a hammer
<13> YukiCuss, don't know about xp where there seems to be some clear improvements, but in linux it does use swap
<7> Juhaz, how could it do that, though? What about the memory that was swapped?
<5> YukiCuss, it gets stored too (afterall, it CAN be cleared)
<5> YukiCuss, but if you are using ALL your swap, I guess that might be an issue, but you wont really run into that
<7> DBO, that's what I mean. What if you're using more than (swap_size - total_memory_size) swap?
<7> Or something..
<13> if ram+non clearable swap usage is more than total swap partition size, then it just won't do it
<5> Juhaz, thank you for clearing up the memory, I was pretty sure I was right but didnt want to say I was sure without checking
<5> YukiCuss, in windows it just freezes
<5> YukiCuss, hopefully in linux it will check and tell you
<5> someone want to test? :-P
<7> DBO, .. in Windows it creates a different flie.
<7> file*
<5> in 2k
<5> not in XP
<7> Ah.
<7> Is that so ..
<3> hmm
<5> yeah, I ran into that by mistake (have windows for games)
<5> ZeZu, so whats the virdict?
<3> Well its an APIC interrupt it crashes at
<3> doesn't matter what PCI slot its in
<3> "Not Syncing"
<3> and i see the call stack goes to the apic interrupt
<3> the odd thing is i see something about the agpgart in the trace
<3> so i think its messing with the onboard graphics which is disabled
<3> I tested my other linux 2.6 kernel that i build and it crashes _right_ away
<5> ZeZu, have you tried leaving the onboard enabled?
<3> Well its not really an enable/disable its whatever you set as a higher priority (asus p4p800 mx)
<14> anyone know of a good wma~mp3 converter?
<5> ZeZu, there SHOULD be and option to flatout disable it...
<14> or wma~anything but wma converter?
<15> why isn't there a ld.so.conf in etc ?
<3> i did not see one
<3> perhaps the lower prior. disables it
<3> either way its surely not working
<5> ZeZu, try disabling (or enabling) ACPI in BIOS
<6> good call
<3> not a bad idea, i dont know if its really even worth playing with atm, anyone know if 3dfx chips have worthwhile drivers in linux /
<3> its old but was a good card :)
<5> I believe they are fairly well supported
<5> and I loved my V3 till it died
<5> rest its sole I still have it
<3> DRI ?
<3> yea its a v3 i had a 5500 at one point too
<5> I believe its fully support ZeZu, but dont hold me to that
<3> I'm writing some opengl related **** and this IGS2 chip ****s ungodly
<5> hey, the V3 handled OpenGL like a pro
<3> then it must be DRI enabled ;)
<16> mDot: You might see if mencoder supports that.
<11> Has anybody ever had any problems with a Western Digital MyBook here?
<5> torpedo|dog, what problems?
<11> well, this one refuses to mount.
<17> top
<18> list
<11> It's brand-new from the store, and it should act as a simple USB m*** storage device.
<14> i'd much rather enable wma support in amarok
<14> converting im sure will cause a loss in fidelity
<5> it does


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