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<0> LinuxJones ok
<1> needlez, if you installed ubuntu then its default is gnome, is you installed kubuntu its default is kde
<2> cool
<2> whats the difference between gnome and kde? or do i want to know? is it easier not knowing? lol, like, is there alot to explain?
<3> needlez: theyre differet environments. Youre welcome to install KDE and find out.
<4> yeah :)
<5> needlez: philosphy
<4> like Flannel said, just install kubuntu or ubuntu and then install the other environment and try both out.
<4> it's really easy.
<2> maybe after i get used to linux i'll go kde. go to see the difference, but for now, i'll stick with what they think the "default" should be
<5> needlez: gnome is more about being slick and simple
<4> well not 'slick' :)
<5> samuli: slick as in not looking like windows :D
<4> for some reason gnome is being a bit slow on dapper. To me atleast.



<5> samuli: i've heard it is blazing on dapper
<4> gnome is a lot better than windows :)
<4> well.. it's not :P
<6> Pretty please? Just right-click on the mail icon, properties, and find out the file path for the icon.
<4> kde is lot 'snappier'
<2> im glad i am finally getting the chance to go linux, i have wanted to do it for so long...but before this i had a wireless adapter, so i couldnt (no drivers or anything...stupid d-link) but now im hard-wired right in to my modem : D
<4> but I like gnome.. so.. I live with it.
<2> im gonna get rid of windows once and for all!!
<4> and it's not that bad really. just slower.
<4> needlez, good man :)
<7> needlez congrats... welcome to the club
<5> needlez: there are some dlink drivers
<3> tonyyarusso: which icon?
<8> NickGarvey
<2> i know there are some d-link drivers, but not for my particular model.
<2> it was a total bumme
<2> r
<6> Flannel: For the mail launcher in gnome-panel.
<8> when i try to downloada file from my webserver, it says "you dont have a permission to download this file"
<4> My windows were bugged down my spyware and stuff like a year ago and I still haven't had any reason to re-install it.
<3> tonyyarusso: the evolution one?
<8> how do i open it so everyone can download a file from the webserver? I tried to ex download http://dust2.mine.nu/cstrike/maps/de_mjolby3.bsp
<6> Flannel: Yeah.
<9> Old: know how to change the permissions?
<10> I really want to contribute to Ubuntu but I need a mentor
<2> yeah, im getting sick of all this spy ware and mal ware and stuff. all the viruses floating around...
<10> I'm a lazy bum who won't do something unless someone gets me started
<1> needlez, good idea
<10> is there a room for Ubuntu developers?
<2> the more i read about it, the more i see how much better linux is turning out to be
<9> Old: chmod a+r /maps/*
<3> tonyyarusso: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/evolution.svg
<5> kapputu: always
<9> Old: chmod a+r ./maps/* if you are in cstrike
<6> Flannel: Thanks.
<11> will somone please help me, i cant seem to add any repositories apart from the cd, and i appear to not have some of the options that are shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto so i think i may have accidentally deleted somthing. please!? i only installed like a couple of hours ago!
<9> !aptcd
<12> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
<2> im just waiting for the ISO to finish downloading....i think i lost my SHIPIT disks they sent me when i moved...
<4> needlez, funny thing is that once I got to linux I realized how ugly and hard to use windows is.. And I thought those were the good points of windows.
<10> hybrid: I meant is there a channel for UBuntu developers?
<8> NickGarvey, i want it to be download able, I mean, all maps/files in /var/www
<13> kapputu: what language ?
<4> needlez, are you downloading breezy or dapper?
<5> kapputu: #ubuntu-motu ?
<2> samuli: hahahaah yeah windows is turning out to be more of a pain than anything else. everything i think i have it the way i want it, something goes wrong
<9> Old: then everyone needs read priv
<8> how?
<14> kapputu: we're in -devel
<9> Old: cd to /var/ww
<2> samuli: Brezzy i think.
<8> yeah
<8> done
<15> i have a laptop with ati radeon x700 mobility, and i'm getting display problems. to be exact, i get scanline-thingies generated by random rows of the screen being shifted a few pixels to the left
<4> o-kay.
<4> needlez, just expect some minor problems and a bit of frustration at the start.
<9> Old: are they all in folders?
<8> all folders are in /var/www
<4> it takes a bit of time to understand the linux way of things.



<11> NickGarvey: that diddnt help, the thing is, the only binary option i have on the list is backports
<16> What must a Python project do to make it be packagable?
<2> samuli: i always do, its part of the process lol.
<8> thats my webserver, i want people to be able to downlad anything in there
<8> its linked ot my counter-strike server, as a ftp for downloading the maps.
<8> so thats why :)
<2> samuli: but i figure, once i get the hang of things, it will be alot better
<4> good thing is, that almost everything is repairable and you know what is going on. Much unlike in windows.
<13> kbrooks: packagable ?
<2> hahah
<13> kbrooks: yo want to make .deb ?
<16> LinuxJones: Yeah
<17> hi
<9> ftp doesn't support symlinks..
<8> NickGarvey, All folders/files in /var/www should be download able.
<17> I'm about to changegraphics cards, and I figure it will not load X when I reboot.. I remember there was a command I'll need, dpkg-reconfigure (something).. what is the rest?
<9> Old: then "chmod -R a+r /var/www"
<18> Is it possible to boot to the ubuntu on the hard drive with the installation cd?
<8> wait NickGarvey
<16> calamari: xserver-xorg
<17> kbrooks: thanks!
<8> Is there a possiblity todo so all files/folders cannot be listed, but download able ?
<8> that'd be GREAT
<16> calamari: switch to vesa b4 u reboot
<19> it just takes time to figure out what linux software can replace windows with
<16> calamari: then switch, then boot into gui
<9> Old: make an index.html page
<13> kbrooks: I havn't made it that far yet but google seems to point to a #debina-mentors channel
<17> ahh, good idea
<8> OK, done
<9> Old: that way they don't get a dir listing, then link only to the things you want
<8> well..
<8> oh
<8> ok
<8> hmpfh
<9> Old: or you could make a sub directory with symlinks to only the files you want
<4> karhuton, yes. And dapper you can install from the live-cd as well.
<9> after you have made the index.html
<8> nah
<11> is there anyway to replace my missing entries in repositories? the only binary option i have there is backports, please
<16> calamari: after u get ur vid card configgured, switch again, then reboot
<8> so, a index.html in /cstrike /maps etc?
<8> correct?
<20> !tell Calgar about easysource
<17> kbrooks: thanks a lot! :)
<18> samuli: I want to boot to /dev/sda2 from hdd - how can I do that with Dapper Beta 2 CD?
<9> Old: I guess? not sure what you want
<18> *hdd = CD
<8> Yeah, i have those folders, dont want those ot be shown
<13> kbrooks: or #ubuntu-motu might be a good place to ask.
<4> karhuton, Umm, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish?
<21> hastesaver: the link from !easysource is broken, or rather the site behind the link is broken
<4> karhuton, you just want to mount that partition?
<8> how do i restart the webserver again NickGarvey ?
<11> hastesaver: the link that the bot gave me is broken, it gives me this error Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
<8> /etc/apt/apache2 restart or ?
<9> Old: sudo killall apache
<8> and then? :D
<18> samuli: no, grub is broken in the mbr of sda. I want to boot to CD, load it's kernel and mount the root system on sda2 (sda1 is windows)
<9> Old: then apache -k start or something, check the man file
<18> Or something like that
<20> Calgar, it was working fine a while ago... maybe you can wait till they fix their site (or just ask someone else for their sources.list)
<3> Old: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
<0> whats Edubuntu ?
<4> karhuton, you can just re-install grub
<3> Old: erm, with sudo.
<8> k thanks
<8> does sudo matter btw?
<20> MisterN, Yeah, it's broken (only the easysource page, though; the main page seems fine)... since when?
<18> samuli: No, I can't. It won't work. Bios problem
<4> karhuton, oh. ok.
<3> Old: yes. Because as a user you can't do that. (And that restarts it, don't need the killall stuff)
<8> ah ok
<21> hastesaver: no idea since when. at least since yesterday


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