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Comments:
<0> Flannel: that's incredible
<1> majd: my experiance is no, which is probably a bug ;)
<2> amphi: nope. Heck, it changes system time for DST.
<3> amphi: what it dose
<0> ferronica: you dual boot windows?
<3> amphi: again showing wrong time
<4> vook, i'm sure you can do a digital guitar peddel
<5> ferronica: if you're dual-booting, don't use UTC
<3> amphi: but both windows r in different HDD
<0> ferronica: I hadn't realised that windows was still as broken as win95
<6> tritium, amphi, and that's another thing. I stayed up three hours too late looking at that stupid windows clock.
<2> ferronica: they use the same system clock.
<7> i3dmaster: Of course. Additionally, for the /mnt/linux it was reiserfs, which doesn't need its type specified for this to work. Something's wrong with the shell, I think... I might reboot back into the install CD and try to mount them again from a new shell.
<0> ferronica: makes no difference, windows will fsck it up
<5> vook: heh
<3> amphi: So, uncheck UTC
<1> Polygon: probably do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for your card
<0> ferronica: you must set your TZ to GMT/UTC and have the bios clock in local time - kill bill, that's what I say ;)
<5> ferronica: I've already told you not to use UTC
<0> ferronica: so, because of windows, you have to have incorrect TZ in linux
<8> how do i set the gnome splash screen?
<0> tritium: sorry for adding to the confusion, it never occurred to me that recent versions of windows were still so broken - I can hardly believe it still
<3> tritium: ok i unchecked UTC
<7> odat: You want to install Mac OS 9 (or lower if necessary) on it, then download BootX. Ignore what this guide I'll post says and drop the BootX App into "Control Panels" inside the SF and drop BootX Extension into "Extensions" (also in the SF), while dropping the kernel folder directly into the SF. Here's the guide: http://www.applefritter.com/node/8936
<9> amphi: vista too?
<6> it's not touching my laptop though, no way. That was mearly an experiment
<0> zcat[1]: no idea
<2> amphi: heh, I mentioned that at the very beginning. You all were asking about batteries, I asked about windows ;)
<9> I would expect so..
<5> amphi: not your fault :)
<0> Flannel: I didn't mention batteries - I thought the bios was set to localtime and linux configured for the correct TZ
<10> how to change your p***word in freenode?
<2> Arrick: you cant, I don't believe. That'd be a security risk.
<10> you should be able to
<0> zcat[1]: somebody above said that, chillingly, vista retains drive letters
<6> it does
<6> unbelievable
<0> Arrick: I imagine you can
<11> Hmm. I though i read a review that said it dident retain drive letters....
<9> Of course it does.. vista has to remain backward compatable with DOS3.1
<0> vook: ah, yes, it was you, sorry
<2> amphi: Vista is winXP, with a few system libraries rewritten. It's hardly a change at all.
<8> how do i set the gnome splash screen?
<9> Windows XP ME
<11> but i dont plan on getting vista any time soon.
<8> zcat[1], don't mention ME... makes some people nervous
<0> Dr_Willis: I don't think you're alone - MS doesn't seem to be planning to sell it soon
<11> amphi, :P
<7> Apostle^: There's two ways. There's a tool you can install, or you can just replace /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png with an image of your choice, but Ubuntu Artwork updates will replace this second method, so the first is generally a smart approach.
<9> rofl.. yeah.. nobody's getting Vista any time soon..
<11> they are waiting for those Uber Phy*** cards - so the OS can have real time Physics effects!
<2> zcat[1]: the poor people who buy new computers are.
<12> last i read, garner wsa saying that vista will get delayed again
<13> hi
<8> Drac|Win, getting the tool, thanks
<9> OK.. if soon == early 2007, perhaps..
<14> hah, those add in physics cards are a joke
<0> Dr_Willis: so when programs crash, their windows spiral down the screen, trailing smoke? ;)
<7> Did you notice how Vista's menus mimic the layout of GNOME, KDE, and the majority of Open Source WM menus? :P
<11> penguin-1, :P
<13> how to connect ubuntu to windows server?
<12> amphi lol
<11> amphi, yep!
<15> a joke eh?
<7> Apostle^: You're welcome. :)
<3> amphi: ok i rebooted
<11> untung, you mean to share directories?
<16> Drac|Win, what about quick bootloader?
<3> amphi: BIOS time is incorrect
<14> dr_willis :P right back atcha
<14> dont be mad cuz im right :D
<6> when my vista computer thrashes just to load up firefox, something is very wrong.
<9> and the OEM version will be crippled. Neither of the two features MS didn't drop completely, only three programs at a time..
<0> ferronica: don't listen to me, I had misjudged, yet again, the evil that comes from Redmond
<3> amphi: but this time ubuntu time is correct
<7> odat: You could try other bootloaders, but my method is a tried, true, and relatively easy method. It may look complicated in that guide, but it's easy. Check your PMs. I'll walk you through it if you need me to.
<0> vook: what do you mean, 'just to load up firefox'?? ;)
<3> amphi: what???
<0> ferronica: the Land of Redmond, where the shadows lie
<17> I recently install xubuntu (where I used to use ubuntu) b/c I like xfce so much. However, getting my wireless card working in xubuntu turns out to be more difficult than it was in ubuntu. Anyone have know how I can go about it in xubuntu?
<6> It just thrashes, brand new install. Thrashing all the time.
<3> amphi: ok u mean u wont help me
<18> Good evening everyone :)
<9> vook: you have the recommended 4GB of ram? :)
<3> amphi: ok as u wish
<3> So any other person who will help me??
<16> Drac|Win, yea but that method boot mac os first then linux right?
<7> odat: A quick trip to get BootX once you've got Mac OS 9 configured for internet is to go to google and simply type in "bootx" and click "I'm feeling lucky" - At the page it takes you to, follow the link to the developer's page and scroll down almost to the bottom. You'll want the latest version, obviously.
<0> ferronica: ffs, stop blathering; because you have a damn fool legacy os installed, which is broken, your bios clock must be set to local time, linux must not use UTC, and your time zone in linux must be set to UTC/GMT
<6> zcat[1], no, that I do not have. But Linux never thrashes on 512mb @ 1100mhz
<6> :)
<7> odat: Hold on. Answer on its way.
<19> Arrick, /msg nickserv set p***word <your_p***word>
<10> Misnix, got that, now how about chanserv?
<0> ferronica: if you have your correct time zone set in linux, with the bios clock set to local time, your time zone offset from UTC will be applied twice, which will be incorrect
<9> amphi: no.. timezone should be where you are, otherwise ntpd will keep setting the localtime to UTC
<2> zcat[1]: no. timezone should be GMT, +0. So ubuntu and windows are in agreement.
<19> Arrick, try /help in your server window
<9> timezone=where you are, bios time = local time, not UTC
<7> odat: It does boot Mac OS 9 for a second, but BootX pops up before it even loads OS 9 (if you put the extension in the proper folder like you're supposed to) and you can set your preferences in it to have it count down from 5 seconds and automatically switch violently to Linux mode, which is cool to watch. *POOF* -TEXT MODE- *POOF* -GREY TEXT- *POOF* -LINUX-
<0> zcat[1]: can't use ntp I don't think, otherwise the clock will be set wrong when linux boots
<9> Flannel: absoutely not.
<3> amphi: so what is the conclusion
<0> ferronica: I've told you twice already
<3> amphi: BIOS WILL SHOW ME INCORRECT
<7> odat: Please direct your attention to my PM, where I can help you further.
<5> ferronica: stop the all caps please
<2> zcat[1]: yeah. You need to pick an offset of 0, since your bios is set to localtime, and that is what is displayed in linux.
<16> Drac|Win, think system 7 will work?
<9> there's two settings; timezone which sould always be your actual timezone, and BIOS time which can be UTC (normal) or localtime (compatable with windows)
<2> oh. I wasnt aware of that.
<0> ferronica: 1) set your bios clock to local time; 2) set your TZ to UTC/GMT
<0> ferronica: 2) is in linux
<2> I just figured you would skip the ntp on ubuntu, and only update via windows.
<9> ferronica: amphi IS wrong.
<0> ferronica: or don't dual boot with windows, so you don't have to break your linux system
<0> zcat[1]: I am not ;)
<9> yes you are.
<3> amphi: i am really confused
<17> Anyone know where I can find wpa_gui?
<20> Evening folks. I'm having trouble getting my new Belkin Wireless card working and was wondering if anyone had a moment to give me a hand
<2> ferronica: listen to zcat[1].
<0> ferronica: I am wrong, apparently
<17> is that part of wireless-tools or something?
<20> Ubuntu detects it fine and it can connect to my router but the dumb thing won't go anywhere after that no matter how I set it up
<3> zcat[1]: ok u tell
<21> !xgl
<22> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
<0> zcat[1]: if his hw clock is in local time, and his TZ is not UTC, the system time will be wrong at boot, as the TZ offset is added to the hw clock time
<9> leave timezone as your actual timezone so that ntpd can make the adjustment; ntp servers provide the time as UTC.... there's also a setting in the linux config for BIOS time, which you set as 'local time'
<3> zcat[1]: If i set my BIOS time LOACL time my ubuntu showing me wrong time
<20> Anyone?
<7> I still can't get mount to work properly from the installation CD's console shell...
<9> right-click on the clock in ubuntu and select 'adjust time'
<3> zcat[1]: one thing when i boot my pc , there it show me synchronizing with linux.org ntp ====failed????
<9> oosp, ignore that.. I'll find the correct option for you
<3> zcat[1]: what is that failed error for??
<7> "mount dev/hdc7 mnt/linux" should work fine. I mkdir'd mnt and mnt/linux. Why won't it mount? It's reiserfs and such. Automatically recognized. I still get "Invalid argument"
<3> zcat[1]: synchronizing something like that, failed???
<23> What might cause a harddrive that bios still sees to be virtually nonexistent to linux?
<23> I see only this line in dmesg pertaining to it: [4294673.027000] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
<23> it would be the hdb mentioned there
<9> damn, can't even find the option in the GUI.
<3> zcat[1]: Do u know??? what is that failed error for???
<24> i need help changing my resolution please
<11> !fixres
<22> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
<3> zcat[1]: Is that above comment for me^^^^
<24> Dr_Willis, thanks
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