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<0> lasindi: indeed, binary drivers for linux for ppc are few and far between
<1> CaptainMorgan: just use mutt like decent folk ;)
<2> i have my previous settings from the older version and i want to place thme in the new folder but I don't know where that new folder is...
<3> lasindi, you would be much better of with a regular x86 processor and an nvidia card.
<4> amphi: not seeing much in /usr/share/doc/mencoder either
<0> slackern: you can't tell mac people that!
<2> older version is not functional, and the new one won't open from an icon
<0> slackern: next you'll tell him to get an Intel mac :)
<1> CaptainMorgan: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird? ~/.thunderbird?
<3> popey, of course i can otherwise i would lie :)
<0> :)
<5> CaptainMorgan: did you use the symlink?
<1> joedj: did you install the mplayer-doc package?
<6> whatever you do, don't open an xterm and type just # cat /dev/urandom
<6> :D
<7> slackern: well, bad drivers are better than no drivers. ;-)
<8> Excuse me the dist upgrade command is what?
<5> Phoul: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<8> odd...
<8> *looks at code*
<1> paradizelost: why not?
<2> popey, it's bashing me.. saying it's a directory...
<3> lasindi, thats true, but it might not be fun if they crash on you in the middle of some work or something, i was thinking like that.
<0> lasindi: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html note lack of ppc drivers
<7> slackern: part of why I'm looking at getting a PPC machine is so that I can port the program I'm working on to PPC Linux and resolve any issues like endianess
<8> sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade
<8> whats wrong with that line then
<7> popey: yeah that's what I looked at too
<4> Phoul: the dist-upgrade isn't run as root
<5> Phoul: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<3> 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
<0> lasindi: you're screwed I'm afriad
<9> or apt-get upgrade
<10> Hmm.. I seem to be missing something, Whenever I launch something it doesn't appear in the task bar :s
<1> lasindi: you could use qemu if you just need to test for endianness issues
<6> it really does some funky shiat
<4> amphi: i did now. no change to what's in /usr/share/doc/mencoder-k6
<9> apt-get upgrade doesn't do major system packages iirc
<3> sorry it should be dist-upgrade as gnomefreak said.
<2> oh..
<0> amphi: he still won't get 3d acceleration though
<1> joedj: look under /usr/share/doc/mplayer then perhaps
<2> nevermind.. got it
<1> popey: indeed not - but you don't need that to check for endian issues ;)
<9> For some reason apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade do different things.
<2> i have two files, one mozilla-thunderbird and the other thunderbird... just gotta copy now..
<11> dura: apt-get upgrade upgrades all your packages that you have installed
<4> amphi: this looks a bit more substantial :)
<0> amphi: you don't know his app ;p maybe he does
<7> amphi: ooh, you're right; but I'm also looking at porting to OS X from Linux, so I can't use OS X under emulation
<1> joedj: there's a section on vcd/svcd creation
<4> amphi: ah yes, i see it now
<0> lasindi: what language?
<1> lasindi: proprietary fun :(
<9> LinuxJones, What does apt-get dist-upgrade do then?
<7> amphi: indeed, silly Apple
<9> From my expierence.. apt-get dist-upgrade installs/upgrades more stuff then apt-get upgrade
<7> popey: C++
<11> dura: dist-upgrade is for upgrading to the next major release (which might have some new software requirements, and will install additional components as necessary)
<1> joedj: you'll need vcdimager (vcdtools?) and cdrdao too (it's a while since I messed with vcd)
<9> ahh okay
<9> Makes sense then...
<12> i always run dist-upgrade
<9> I do both every morning
<0> LinuxJones: that's not technically true
<12> specially cause im on dapper
<13> hello all i got a quikie ... how do i play a mp3 from command promt ? (no graphical gui ...)
<7> popey: by the way, are there *any* ATI PPC drivers with acceleration?
<9> after apt-get update of course
<9> ihaveavirus, How is that?
<0> lasindi: dunno, i have an nvidia dell
<11> dura: yeah basically you only do a dist upgrade every 6 months or so :)
<14> bytes /sec = 1,700,474 how many MB per sec is that? 1 7mb or 1.7
<9> I got another box for testing... was gonna install it
<12> its great im running compiz:D
<0> LinuxJones: no!
<9> LinuxJones, hehe
<11> popey: ok so how does it work ?
<0> LinuxJones: I dist-upgrade every day
<14> or 170 kb
<12> but samba is broken
<9> ihaveavirus, Nice
<15> senare: mpg123
<9> Bah who needs samba...
<0> LinuxJones: upgrade upgrades packages without installing new stuff
<1> lasindi: the xorg drivers have 3d accel up to R280 radeons
<11> popey: what distro are you using ?
<9> Get rid of windows
<9> :)
<13> oki thanx !
<0> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade upgrades and pulls in new dependancies if required
<0> LinuxJones: doesn't matter it's the same on all debian based distros
<12> I would if there was yahoo voice chat for linux:D
<12> i still dual boot
<11> popey: like I said right ?
<3> lasindi, not sure but maybe matrox has something to offer?
<7> amphi: okay thanks, I wasn't going to get a high-end Mac anyway, so that should work
<5> upgrade wont grab kernels among other things
<0> LinuxJones: no, you indicated you only do dist-upgrade to do a "major release" upgrade, which isn't true
<1> tatters: FFS, are you still asking that? 1.7 million bytes ~= 1.5MB
<2> BOOM! got it.. alright thanks to the helpers. cheers
<7> slackern: haven't looked into it; does Apple sell Macs with Matrox cards?
<1> lasindi: man radeon has the details
<3> lasindi, http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/3rd_party/home.cfm i was just checking here and saw both linux and ppc
<16> can CD/DVD Creator burn a CD ISO image?
<0> lasindi: aren't ppc macs going away? do you *need* to port to them?
<14> yup lol thnx hmm 1.5 is way slow
<3> and i remember matrox atleast used to be very nice on linux machines, but that may have changed.
<0> mmmm matrox pahrelia triple headed goodness
<11> popey: umm, if your using the development version which nobody in here is techincally supposed to be using, dist-upgrade is ok. There is no need to do it on stable release of ubuntu
<1> dibblego: dunno, but you can easily do it with cdrecord
<7> popey: perhaps not, but PPC is still cool
<9> http://lfs1.no-ip.org and http://duralnux.no-ip.org
<17> How do I change the group of files in a directory in terminal?
<0> LinuxJones: it's *irrelavent* what you're on
<9> A friend has a site up here also... I'm hosting for him
<12> dura, what type of servers do you run?
<0> LinuxJones: dist-upgrade works the same on every single one
<1> lasindi: and there's still pegasos (if they're still going)
<12> oh
<12> oops
<9> ihaveavirus, Well... everything heh
<9> apache, ftp, nfs, samba, ntp, bootp
<18> guess whos back agai
<11> popey: well if features and new components are frozen why dist-upgrade in Breezy ?
<19> !eggdrop
<20> GTroy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
<3> Stormx2, 'sudo chown <user>:<group> *' without <>
<0> LinuxJones: why not?
<17> Lorny: is it... you?!
<18> i have a dual boot question
<5> Lorny: ask
<17> slackern: Cheers, but I figured chgrp did that too :
<21> Hi .. How can I configure the spell-checker on a other language than the default .. lets say gnome be on English and the spell checker on Spanish...
<3> Stormx2, aye, theres a couple of approaches to it :)
<11> popey: because nothing new is being implimented and an upgrade will suffice
<18> ok so I had ubuntu installed first and then installed 2000 prof...
<12> dura, are you an entrepeneur?
<0> LinuxJones: every machine I own does an "apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade" overnight, every night
<18> (on seperate drives)
<9> ihaveavirus, Ehh... sort of
<9> Why?
<5> Lorny: you need to install grub again
<17> Oh god, WIKI PAGE!
<0> LinuxJones: not always the case
<18> except um
<17> !grub
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