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<0> loko
<1> fluxt: All that choice is the thing thats keeping me from being able to use it, I use my OS to accomplish certain goals, and one of those goals hasn't been fortunate enough to be understanding every aspect of OS configuration, maybe if I had more time
<2> how do i extract this file to Kopete jasper-1_701_0_vmspatch.tar
<3> If dapper doesn't have the lattest version of a software, to whom to i report/suggest an upgrade? What is the procedure?
<4> I have been trying to use a framebuffer console (vga=791) without the splash option. But when I disable the splash option, the screen remains black until GDM starts, and I never get a console. Does anyone know why this would happen? How can I disable usplash and still use a framebuffer console?
<5> phantasmoholic-: I love car analogies, even bad ones, so let's say Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda, and every other car company all banded together to make some uber car? :)
<6> Linux is a tool. You use it how you want. learn how to use the tools better r3equires skill and effort.
<0> /join #ubuntuforum
<6> I use 'Woodworking tools" analogys. :P
<5> Heheh.
<7> phantasmoholic- that's exactly why no one will ever gather around a single distro. distro choice is one of the great tings about linux. there's mandriva for folks like you, and slackware for people like me, and we're still using 95% the same libs and interfaces, so just about everything is itnercompatable
<0> #ubuntu.es
<8> ah tis gdm
<8> lessee
<2> how do i extract this file to Kopete jasper-1_701_0_vmspatch.tar
<1> Ok, ok, I'm not trying to say Linux is lame, I love it, I have always had a distro installed next to my windows, but, I'm just kinda depressed that I never actually can boot it and use it like I would love to do



<9> phantasmoholic-, linux is harder to learn and easier and more powerfull to use
<6> When Windows breaks - you are often totally Stuck.. when linux breaks you can rip it apart. :P
<9> phantasmoholic-, what's actually stopping you? you have a problem?
<10> Does ubuntu have the support necessary to access RHEL lvm2 logical volumes?
<6> I find linux easier to learn. :P
<1> I feel I have a solid grasp on things in Linux that most windows users would never understand, and even with that, I still can't make it do what I want
<6> But then again Trick #1 - "Learn how to learn"
<11> where is the XF86Config section?
<12> section?
<9> Dr_Willis, but win has gui nobrainers. how easy is that! not that you can do as much..
<13> fluxt i did everything in the wik page to install java, but it isnt working
<6> pancakelizard, Huh?
<14> hi, anybody here knows a reference or two on how to customize (or even better, create) ubuntu install cd??? :-/ i've been searching on google but can't find spesifically what i need, perhaps wrong keyword???
<7> Dr_Willis: Linux is harder to use ifyou don't know anything, but actually *learning* it is way easier. because things have a logical construction, and standards. Windows totally does not >:(
<1> fluxt: Right now there is only 1 major thing, dual monitors wont work
<6> fluxt, untill it breaks.
<11> Put the following modeline in your XF86Config in the Monitors section, and add it to your active modes in the Screen section
<6> pancakelizard, xorg uses xorg.conf :P
<12> pancakelizard: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<1> fluxt: when I sit down and see the boot screen, I can just feel the jail cell of the single monitor if I boot linux, so I always go to windows
<11> oh ok thanks.
<6> older X uses that other file.
<9> phantasmoholic-, hmm well a lot of cards aren't supported in linux that way :( google lists a few. search?
<6> Jail Cell of the Single Monitor?
<11> sorry this is the first version of linux ive actually liked and i trying to learn stuff while i go.
<6> heh.
<9> firstent, what exactly isn't working?
<6> I use Dual monitors on my Nvidia card.
<1> fluxt: My card is supported for it, even has a psuedo xinerama that suppots 3d on both monitors, other people have it working, I try to do what they do, and it doesn't work for me
<6> but with the mutipal Desktop features I dont really need the extra monitors.
<13> fluxt when i get in a java page it doesnt displey
<9> phantasmoholic-, yeah i've been there, i hear you
<14> is anybody here knows a reference or two on how to customize (or even better, create) ubuntu install cd??? :-/ i've been searching on google but can't find spesifically what i need, perhaps wrong keyword???
<1> Dr_Willis: I'm already addicted to multiple monitors, once you have used two you can never go back to one
<15> HEY HO LETS GO
<16> w00t ramones
<9> firstent, paste output of.. java --version
<6> Ive had very odd issues with windows and Mulp. Monitors as well.. its just the whole os 'world/programers' dont seem to think people use them much.
<4> sit1: Maybe you should ask on the forums? No one ever seems to answer advanced questions like that here.
<11> ok in the monitor section, it has my correct hardware listed. is there a way to change the aspect ratio then?
<17> tar xvf jasper-1_701_0_vmspatch.tar
<13> fluxt already done
<14> owh, ok... thanks
<15> EU LOCO
<15> DE DONDE SO
<5> pancakelizard: Got some measuring tape?
<13> hey moe, the channel didnt work
<9> firstent, so it works, just not in firefox?
<11> no i dont
<1> fluxt: I would also say my Wirless is a problem, but I can get it working with ndiswrapper in Breezy
<16> yo hablo un poco espanol, pero you soy de las EEUU
<13> fluxt do u thing that it would be better if i restart??
<13> fluxt the pc
<15> OK
<10> Anyone have any knowledge about LVM2 support in the Ubuntu Live CD?
<7> can anyone help me fix XMMS?
<1> fluxt: But it looks like Dapper is going to switch in a kernel module, bcm43xx, that does not look like it works so well, and ruin my ndiswrapper ease
<5> pancakelizard: Under 'Section "Monitor"' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can add a line like this: "DisplaySize 345 271"
<9> phantasmoholic-, heres an idea, look as linux as a huge howto get stuff to go time fun for all thingy
<13> fluxt i will restart the pc, because Flash isnt working neughter
<5> pancakelizard: Where 345 is 345 millimetres (width) and the other one is the height. Hence the measuring tape :).



<11> oh ok i see
<9> firstent, if you think it'll help
<11> what you're saying
<5> pancakelizard: It might help fix font issues and aspect ratios while watching movies (or TV).
<7> does anyone know XMMS well?
<10> silveran: I thought those were pixel values, not mm measurements?
<5> but it's not going to have any effect on resolution.
<6> Mosi, cant say that ive had any probmels with xmms.
<5> Relkin: They seem like awfully strange pixel values :).
<18> xmms
<7> Dr_Willis: thanks, that makes mine work better :P
<6> Wide Screen Desktop Monitors seem tobe getting more common. :P
<6> which is good.
<6> Mosi, you COULD ask a real question.
<18> my hardward i think is crap...WHY
<19> anyone have fgrlx and dapper ?
<6> thrice`, it works on my laptop. I just followed the !ati wiki
<10> silveran: I never said they were correct values ;) Also, it's late for me and I'm stressing cuz my hd on my redhat server is crashing and I can't seem to find a repair utility that works with LVM2 (can't access the LVM2 when it's not mounted)
<16> gnite
<19> !ati
<20> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
<1> thrice`: is that the ATI binary driver
<5> Relkin: Nasty stuff...
<19> I thought I did :(
<1> thrice': you wouldn't happen to be using the dual head feature of your card would you??
<18> is it common for the system to do kernel panics sometimes
<19> phantasmoholic-: nope
<10> silv: I know. I'm not going to be using LVM2 again, unless I'm running RAID5 arrays, and then I would not need the LVM ;)
<5> foampeace: Nope :(
<7> Dr_Willis: ok, so, the other day i went to install Busybox just for educational purposes. It said it had to delete my linux kernel image to do it, so i made sure i had symlinks so my boot loader could boot off an old version of the kernel. Sure enough, this morning i had to run off 2.6.10-6-powerpc kernel. I discovered that XMMS worked under this kernel. After i reinstalled 2.6.12-10-powerpc-smp and booted off that, XMMS no longer worked.
<7> any thoughts?
<5> Relkin: Yeah, my configs have never been complex enough for me to even look at LVM.
<10> silvaran: RH defaults to dropping EVERYTHING into an LVM
<10> ugh
<18> i wanna go live in the forest the computer is cheap and flaky :<
<21> k... well can anybody even tell me WHY Ubuntu would automaticly "update" to Edubuntu... and if its reversable?
<5> foampeace: Trees don't bring you porn :)
<6> Mosi, sounds more like a sound device
<10> silvaran: I didn't know better at first... now I do. DOH!
<6> Mosi, sounds more like a sound device 'issue' not a an xmms one.
<1> chomsky: you changed all your source's to edubuntu sources and did a dist-upgrade?
<18> silvaran: i dont want to take the computer back
<5> phantasmoholic-: I thought edubuntu was in the same repository, just a different virtual package?
<18> silvaran: but its crashing and flaky
<21> no... brand new install... everythign went well till i logged into gnome...
<7> Dr_Willis: that could well be. However, Rythmbox Music Player works fine, and did under the oldkernel. Do you know what the difference is between what the two players use, so i can get an idea where to start looking for a fix?
<5> chomsky: What does "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" get you?
<21> good question... i'll give it a go
<13> fluxt didnt work, nor flash or java
<18> why would a computer be flaky? bargain bin cpus?
<18> bad yeild cpus?
<22> This may be slightly OT, but I can't think of any other unbiased places to ask. I would like to put the /etc of my ubuntu install under version control. Can anyone recomend a version control system that would be good for that? SVN? darcs?
<23> what is nexenta?
<5> Mosi: I haven't used xmms in ages, but it has its own code for piping sound to the hardware (and might even be set to use the deprecated OSS drivers). Rhythmbox uses gstreamer which I believe favors the new ALSA system. I would suggest checking the sound settings in XMMS and trying different output devices (esd/alsa/oss) until you find one that (hopefully) works.
<9> firstent, ls /usr/java/jre -ld
<21> heh... cant even get a terminal
<21> ah there it is
<7> silvaran: thanks much, i'll try that
<5> mdmkolbe: I'm sure you could get just about any version control system to work with it... my money would be on Subversion, but that's a personal preference.
<5> mdmkolbe: I've no experience with that sort of thing, but you might want to find a filesystem or something with built-in versioning so you don't have to remember to commit after every change you want logged in the repo.
<7> silvaran: ^_^ wow, that was easy. I didn't know ALSA was better than OSS, thanks :)
<24> alsa is much better
<24> clearer
<15> COMMUNITY: what decodes should i need to waacht mpeg files (video) on ubuntu live
<5> Mosi: No problem... I think technically it's "better" now (I've had enormous pains with alsa in the past while it was maturing), but OSS is deprecated in the kernel.
<22> silvaran: do such things exist under linux? any names I could search for?
<15> what decoders should i download
<25> MoebiuxRAMONE: no decodes
<9> firstent, depending on where you installed java.. on mine... cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so
<25> MoebiuxRAMONE: but some codecs
<21> silvaran: root@****box:/home/chomsky# apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
<21> Reading package lists... Done
<21> Building dependency tree... Done
<21> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.


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