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<0> Dirge: is it?
<1> Dirge, dooglus, gksudo
<2> gui shouldn't do anything important and such
<0> Flannel: same difference.
<3> Dirge, no, that is the definition of permissions
<1> dooglus: no, sudo can screw things up
<4> important such as editing files and file transfers?
<5> ok found vlc
<5> will try it
<0> Flannel: when running gedit?
<4> Well I want to GIVE permissions.
<3> dooglus, not quite, $HOME is different in sudo & gksudo
<2> yeah, permissions have basically made knoppix useless for recovery
<2> makes me want to make a linux distro specifically for utility
<0> Bot_Builde1: lack of permissions has basically made Windows useless for anything
<2> but that'd take a while
<4> For instance, I have a file I want to download, I try yo download then save it, but I can't save it to the external HDD because it's for root only.
<5> i installed VLC but which directory is it in?
<0> Bot_Builde1: why don't you just run everything as root?
<4> It won't let me log into the GUI as root.
<2> dooglus, I know, but for a utility distro it kinda ****s
<1> dooglus: running everything as root? what?
<3> Dirge, linux does not write to ntfs for one simple reason: microsoft has not published the specs needed for reliable writing to ntfs
<2> jesus, I'm going to resort to vi
<6> How do i permanently change the rights of an folder
<0> Dirge: it will if you 'fix' the AllowRoot=false line in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
<2> worse than a text editor
<4> AJ004 Applications -> Soung & Video
<0> Flannel: Dirge doesn't like 'permissions'. he wants to be able to write to any file he wants.
<2> *hex editor
<7> Dirge: /quit
<4> No thanks.
<8> any opers that can kill steveO_? It's my ghost.
<1> Dirge: we haven't reverse engineered safe writing, so there are things that'll let you write to ntfs, but can't guarentee they wont hose the partition.
<4> Also, it won't let me write anywhere except home.
<7> Dirge: Err, that was unintentional.
<1> Dirge: right, that's by design
<8> nm.
<4> Not just the external NTFS HDD.
<9> IN breezy it ws easy to figure out how to get read access to toher hard drives. Not so Dapper so far.
<4> Ok, how do I give a user root access?
<10> Dirge, that's because the system owns /, you don't
<0> Dirge: you add him to the 'admin' group. then he can use 'sudo'
<11> I've recently migrated to dapper drake (clean install), and I don't like the Sessions management panel as much. I need to control the order in which startup items are run. Which file should I add the commands to that I would have put in the Sessions admin pane?
<2> oh jesus
<4> Ok, done... Why doesn't it work.
<2> the xml file is one big line
<2> and i can't scroll down in vim
<3> hrm, does anyone remember the ghost command for killing your old avatars off hand?
<9> You would want to use sudo not give yourself enough priveleges to hang yourself.
<1> steveO_: you can, with ghost, for future reference (/msg nickserv help ghost)
<0> Dirge: what did you do?
<2> ok, I'm going to download the Vista beta
<5> nope
<2> this ****s
<5> vlc doesnt work and neither does movie player
<5> it is an ASX file
<0> Bot_Builde1: use emacs21
<4> What video are you trying to watch AJ004?
<2> I have, when i opened the file nothing was there
<12> nickrud: /gshost nick p***wd? is that wat you want?
<1> Bot_Builde1: that's because its saved with different line endings
<2> Flannel - it was saved by openoffice
<2> I think its to save space
<5> dirge: An ASX format video
<2> but really it makes it un-human editable
<2> probably what screwed up gedit, its one big *** line
<3> DShepherd, yeah, steveO_ was looking for that, thanks
<4> System -> Users & Groups -> Select my name -> Properties -> Advanced -> Main Group -> Admin
<6> Is the wrong word i am looking for? Beceause i can't find any documentation on How i permanently change the rights of an folder?
<0> Dirge: that won't take effect until the user next logs in
<10> Bot_Builde1, there are editors that'll visually break a long line so it doesn't run off the screen - Bluefish, for example
<6> Is it Rights?
<4> That was done 3 days ago.
<4> And 25+ logins
<2> man, I'll make better progress submitting a bug report and waiting for the next version of OO
<1> dooglus: do you want to change the owner? or the permissions?
<0> Dirge: how did you run the 'Users & Groups' think if you can't sudo?
<3> Jaak_, permissions is the word
<1> erm, Jaak_
<0> Flannel: neither.
<6> =D
<2> madpilot - that is true, but internally a 65K line seems to screw many text editors
<1> dooglus: not you.
<1> Jaak_: changing owner or permissions?
<4> It asks for the SU p***word to enter the Administrator tools
<1> Dirge: no, it asks for YOUR sudo p***word
<10> Bot_Builde1, what was this 65k/single line file created in?
<6> permissions
<6> thanks
<0> Dirge: the SU p***word? not your own user p***word?
<1> Jaak_: alright, you want chmod, chown is for owner.
<2> It's an openoffice document, unzipped, the content.xml file
<4> I made both the same.
<2> I'm trying to fix it so openoffice doesn't crash when i open it
<0> Dirge: if you can run the users & groups thing, then you can use 'sudo'
<10> Bot_Builde1, ah... I'm not sure OOo files are really designed to be unpacked :|
<2> they aren't
<2> but i have no other option
<2> this is due tomorrow
<4> But that's not the issue, that's working properly. But giving permission to a user is the issue.
<2> and ive worked on it a few weeks
<12> nickrud: no prob
<0> Dirge: permission to do what?
<10> Bot_Builde1, ouch... do you know what's breaking?
<2> yes
<13> What's the shortcuts for switching workspaces??
<3> Bot_Builde1, really, I'd go ask on #openoffice or their mail lists, whatever distro it is, they would like to know about dragging & dropping failing
<1> Dirge: Dirge what's the issue? just add them to the admin group.
<2> I just need to remove references to some images
<4> Edit, transfer files, create files, etc.
<14> hi. I am about to set up a desktop with ubuntu, do I have to get plug-ins for mp3, CSS dvd, etc? what about wireless? is there any "good" pages about this?
<2> dragging and dropping images, as nickrud said are what broke it
<0> Dirge: everyone has permissions to do that
<1> !tell CRASH69 about restrictedformats
<4> I only have 1 user, Myself. But I can't do anything that you'd expect to be able to do.
<10> Bot_Builde1, search & replace will work even if it's one giant messy line
<1> oh, psh.
<0> Dirge: but only for files they have permission to do those things on
<2> bloody dual screenness... I wouldn't have even tried drag and drop if i didn't have two screens :)
<15> Anybody know of a way to check open up the modem and play it through the speakers without doing anything? We have dialup and I'd like a way to check whether anyone is online, but actually dialing sometimes will kick them off if they are, so I just want to be able to check whether there's a dial tone or internet nonsense.
<2> madpilot - how do i search in vim?
<0> Dirge: I would expect your user to be able to edit his own files, and not the system files.
<1> CRASH69: that page will get you info on all those
<16> I need help in figuring out this video problem. The screen never refreshes. This happens in all video players. Its been like this since I switched to dapper 4 months ago. Any suggestions?
<0> Dirge: what would you expect?
<2> its the least user friendly program in existance
<10> Bot_Builde1, not sure, I use nano when I can't use gedit, myself
<2> ah nano
<2> I'll try it
<0> Bot_Builde1: you type "/", then a regular expression, then hit return
<16> Bot_Builde1, try cream for vim
<10> Bot_Builde1, nano has basic commands listed along the bottom of the screen all the time - much more sensible :)
<13> tonyyarusso - if you have a normal telephone plugged into the same line, pick it up and you'll hear the bzz
<2> ooh yes
<0> Madpilot: can it search?
<2> svn ci uses nano
<4> I have a xorg.test file in X11, but after I transfer it there (even though I'm the creator) I'm locked out and have to tranfer again and overwrite it in su mode.
<10> dooglus, I'm sure it can
<1> dooglus: it can.
<10> Dirge, use sudo in Ubuntu plus your own user pw - there's no need for su by default...
<16> Bot_Builde1, download Cream for VIM. It turns VIM into a normal editor
<15> kholerabbi: I don't have one in this room. Not a huge deal, but an it would be nice if.
<1> it's an ncurses based text editor, using ncurses isntead of a GUI
<0> Dirge: you can make it writable with a "chmod +w"
<16> I use it everyday
<3> Dirge, and the problem with that is?
<14> Flannel, thx
<2> yes nano looks good
<2> concept10 - willdo when ive got the time
<13> tonyyarusso: hmmm.... dunno than
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