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<0> Amaranth, I thought gentnoo was a meta distro.
<1> there ARE some gentoo-based distros out there, but i dont think any of them caught on at all
<2> I downloaded 1 program source files. There was 2 makefile's makefile.am nad makefile.in <--- i must run one of them in console or something? :S
<3> If I could just get these gosh darned errors resolved
<1> he's right though... debian is the distro for distros
<4> janno: read the README or INSTALL file
<5> mkrufky: Those compiler flags will only get you a minuscule increase in speed and most of them will actually make things slower (by a minuscule amount).
<5> mkrufky: For the things that they do help with ubuntu has CPU-specific packages. :)
<1> Amaranth: machine dual boots from gentoo to ubuntu.... gentoo is much faster, ubuntu is much nicer
<6> breezy_dapper: i have trouble upgrding to kubuntu dapper
<3> Amaranth: That's true except for CPU intensive apps, then you'll get m***ive speed increases
<1> sorry... MY machine
<3> for but for regular apps, it's a waste of time (optimizations)
<5> naetrick: Sure, but I'm talking about your standard desktop.
<7> Didn't Gentoo come from Stampede?
<1> ah... i am NOT talking about a standard desktop
<8> Amaranth: it doesn't show hdb3 at all from typing cat /etc/mtab
<3> Amaranth: One benefit with using GCC is you can use "-Os", optimizing for size... that can greatly reduce the size of binaries
<3> by a lot, and I do mean a lot
<5> Most desktop apps spend all their time waiting for input or reading from the disk.
<9> does anybody know a program that's similar to dreamweaver?
<4> naetrick: stripping them reduces the size a good bit too
<10> hi, is there a way to view a list of the running programs?
<5> NoairKiller: what does it show? pastebin the output
<4> majd: top or ps aux
<5> mkane12: nvu?
<3> amphi: That's true
<9> where would i find nvu?
<11> Mkane12:Bluefish or OO.o if you dont want to deal with html
<3> amphi: I also found that, when writing my own apps in C, that tuning them for my specific processor makes them even slower
<1> majd: "ps aux" ... "top"
<3> "-mtune=pentium4" or "-march=pentium4"
<10> is there a way to close one of them?
<5> majd: kill -9 <pid>
<5> majd: you get the PID from top or ps
<4> naetrick: -ffastmath is good for floating point code speed, I found
<5> majd: actually, there is a UI for all of this
<3> I wish Ubuntu was a bit smarter configuring the kernel... it couldn't even detect if this CPU had HT or not, and it's default timer frequency is 250Hz!
<12> naetrick, can you paste the url for the mount errors please
<1> naetrick: NO kernel build menuconfig system detects that
<5> majd: it should be in Applications->System Tools
<3> amphi: Yup, and -funroll-loops, too. That can give a nice gain, but it'll increase binary size
<1> naetrick: also, Lunis decided that 250 Kz is the sane default
<1> s/Lunis/Linus
<3> mkrufky: Sure, they should be. I'm not talking about when I type "make menuconfig", but when it configured the kernel during install
<1> s/Kz/Hz
<3> Though I'd just do it myself again
<8> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8609
<3> mkrufky: 1MHz will give you much better responsiveness
<3> thingy: The one I posted earlier?
<12> naetrick, yes please
<5> NoairKiller: I don't see the problem, sorry.
<13> is anyone using a video card that has dvi and works out of the box, with 3d?
<1> naetrick: sure... but 250Hz is the sane default .... 1MHz sure... better for your desktop maybe, but not for a high-availability server
<4> mkrufky: heh, 'lunix' recalled this venerable troll: http://adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
<4> er, lunis
<3> mkrufky: That's true, and it can shorten the battery life for laptops by quite a bit
<5> cyphase: The only cards with 3D support that work out of the box are Radeon 7000-9200
<13> my mistake
<14> Hi guys! I have two Linux and Windows XP on my computer. I used Grub to load the operating systems. I needed to reinstall Windows, and it overwrote the Grub in Master Boot Record. How can I reinstall Grub to MBR without reinstalling any linux?
<5> cyphase: afaik only the mac versions of those have DRI
<11> Mkane12 NVU can be found at http://www.nvu.com/
<13> out of the box, and after installing drivers :)
<5> !windows
<15> it has been said that windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
<5> grr
<5> !grub
<15> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
<3> thingy: Well, now it mounts it fine, but I get those errors "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference..."
<5> ltibor65: ^
<3> And it dumps me to busybox, ash
<2> How i can run rpm files
<5> janno: alien
<5> !rpm
<15> I guess rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
<5> arg
<5> i give up
<2> !alien
<15> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
<4> naetrick: that's disappointing ;) what gives you that?
<3> amphi: When I boot
<3> This is ticking me off, big time. And when I don't use an initrd image, I get a call stack dump also (like I am now)
<3> I need this custom kernel, because the default configuration is slow, and takes forever to load
<16> Hi everyone
<16> I have a technical problem (I'm no newbie).
<17> Hey, I'm a little new to the Linux world, and I have a question... When I install a, say, Debian package, it keeps a log of changes so it's easy to backtrack and uninstall the application, right? But when I configure and make software by the command line, is there an easy way to uninstall the sofware again then?
<12> naetrick, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-395122-highlight-unable+handle+kernel+null+pointer+dereference.html is this your symptoms?
<16> I want to remove libmysqlclient12 since I use mysql-server-41 and libmysqlclient14. How can I remove this lib without having to remove ubuntudesktop package?
<0> francois222,
<3> thingy: Somewhat... I get the NULL pointer error, and the Call trace gives me some loaded modules
<0> apt does not remove any deps of package which are removed
<0> therefore, removing ubuntudesktop wont have any effect
<16> The following packages will be REMOVED:
<16> libmysqlclient12 python2.4-librdf ubuntu-desktop
<16> Yes it does
<12> naetrick, are you loading a kernel specific module such the nvidia/ati one?
<0> francois222, i'm right, you're wrong.
<3> thingy: No
<18> Any one can help me to mount and be able to write on a new reiserfs partition?
<19> i did a server install, how can i install X ?
<0> francois222, look. apt does not remove gnome. it is in ubuntu-desktop. nor does it remove gaim. it is in ubuntu-desktop.
<16> kbrooks, Well aptitude tell me that you are wrong :)
<16> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
<0> francois222, if it did, it would have to EXPLICITLY mention it
<0> read: explicit
<0> implicitly is a bug.
<0> a big bug.
<19> i installed xorg-common but "startx" doesn't work, says command not found
<4> francois222: use apt-get ;)
<16> I use apt-get
<4> vladuz976: apt-get install xserver-xorg
<16> apt-get remove libmysqlclient12
<20> vladuz976: startx is in the xinit package
<21> vladuz976: you need to install "x-server-common"
<19> amphi: thanks
<0> francois222, say y, and please report this bug if you ever find it, okay/?
<17> Noone who could help me with my question? :(
<16> Removing ubuntu-desktop ...
<16> Removing python2.4-librdf ...
<16> Removing libmysqlclient12 ...
<19> Spudly: which one common or xorg?
<4> vladuz976: and xbase-clients
<16> you were wrong kbrooks
<0> francois222, see? it didnt remove gnome
<0> i'm sorry
<21> vladuz976: i install all the xorg packages, but they don't come with xinit and the support tools that most ppl use.
<9> so i'm new to Linux, and i'm kinda tryin to set up a website. Anyone know any tools for web design throug Linux?
<4> mkane12: vim is good
<0> francois222, ubuntu-desktop was removed and ubuntu works
<16> I did not said I will remove gnome, only the ubutu desktop meta package, that I'd like to keep installed on my system
<22> Does btlaunchmany seed?
<4> mkane12: gimp for graphics
<9> is that with in Linux or do i have to get it from elsewhere?
<16> I know but I want this package
<3> Do you guys recommend I enable CONFIG_EMBEDDED in the kernel
<0> francois222, then reinstall it.
<4> mkane12: it's a text editor
<19> Spudly: so what should i install then besides the xserver-xorg?
<4> naetrick: not on a pc
<0> soundray, well, well, well.
<9> oh rite
<16> It will reinstall libmysql12 that I dont want because my prep statement does not work with PHP
<23> kbrooks, hi. irc-cl***es?
<3> Ok, well it was enabled by default in the kernel :)
<19> isn't there some kind of meta package?
<19> for S
<19> X
<4> naetrick: heh
<21> vladuz976: actually, it's x-windows-system
<21> vladuz976: my apologies - that will install xinit and startx
<4> Spudly: startx is provided by xbase-clients here
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