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<0> v3: /var/cache/apt/archives/
<1> o well stil will work for email. and showing off my new desktop
<2> Ng: hmmz the source files ? k tnx
<0> v3: source files?
<3> drummer: hold on a min
<0> oh sorry
<0> v3: I misread your question
<2> Ng: apt-get source ...
<1> well thanks
<1> for the help
<4> wow
<4> there's like 5 icons in my notification area
<3> grrrrr still getting vrap :(
<4> "Rebot" "New Updates" "Rhythmbox" "Gaim" "Running on AC Power" (on a desktop?!)
<0> v3: that will write them to the current directory
<5> v3: in the current working directory
<2> ah tnx
<0> bluefoxicy: and?
<4> plus the sound mixer applet (which I put next to the notification area for cosmetic purposes) and the network monitor
<6> gnomefreak: Will do. First discovered the problem when i logged in this morn & the system said it could not initialize sound /dev/dsp because permission denied. Then I discovered I couldn't get sudo access nor su acces to all kinds of things.
<4> Ng: there's lots of little icons in the system tray, like on windows :o
<7> bluefoxicy: if you reboot and then install your updates and stop using useless instant messaging its only one elft
<2> and is there a special way to build the files ? incase i decide to modify them and place them back in ?
<0> bluefoxicy: that sounds like dapper and things will probably change in the next couple of months
<5> v3: have a look at the debian reference on debian.org
<2> amphi: tnx i will have a look at it
<0> v3: it creates a directory, go into that and run "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot" and it'll build the .deb's. Do also look for the New Maintainer's Guide from debian as amphi suggests
<0> v3: (you may need to install the fakeroot pacakge)
<8> Sorry, but the howto didn't work. Still have resolutionproblems in xorg.
<8> However, after setting the h/v sync ranges I can now choose between 800x600 and 1280x102, but no higher.
<5> cavediver: try xrandr in a terminal
<9> hello
<10> what resolution is it that uou want cavediver ?
<8> 1680x1050
<11> Are there really people here sending people to #debian for help? Ubuntu is not debian. I'm sure we can find places for you guys to get help but it's hard to give help to somone when you're not in the right channel.
<10> cavediver: dell 2005FPW?
<8> amphi: will try that
<9> i am sick of fedora. yum screwed up my system
<0> GPLGeek: who said #debian?
<8> zAo^: yes..
<11> a LOT of people lately
<5> GPLGeek: ?
<10> cavediver: 2005FPW here; VGA?
<8> zAo^: vga?
<11> I'm just wondering, im not mad at anyone
<0> GPLGeek: I haven't seen anyone do it, but it does sound a little unhelpful
<10> cavediver: card brand? type?
<12> helo
<12> hello
<9> i am thinking of downloading ubuntu
<0> GPLGeek: part of the problem here is that you get people who think they can help, but actually can't ;)
<5> GPLGeek: no sense sending them off to be ubuntusmitten ;)
<8> zAo^: Changed from geforce 5200 to a 6200 today. The dell is also new for today :)
<0> Alexi5: a good move :)
<11> I respect Ubuntu and all, and want to help, but it's kinda strange how many people say that people been just pushing them off on other channels
<10> cavediver: nice, PM
<8> ok
<9> i hope the ubuntu package management is not like yum
<0> GPLGeek: everyone helping here is a volunteer. if the quality of their help is poor, correct them :)
<5> GPLGeek: where do you see this? only #debian?
<5> Alexi5: it isn't
<3> drummer: drummer whos is named in the /etc/sudoers file?
<11> I'm mostly in #debian and a few other channels.
<9> i feel really mad
<10> cavediver: dude? look at the PM :)
<13> GPLGeek: i've never seen someone here redirecting people to #debian
<11> It was not all just today, I just wanted to figure out how we can best help people without them getting wrong distro smites
<9> i stayed a whole day updating the syetm and now some of the updated apps don't work
<5> !comfort Alexi5
<14> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
<11> ok, well I was not accusing anyone. I was just trying to figure out if it was going on and trying to figure out a way we can help.
<0> GPLGeek: p***. I would hope that people are only suggesting it as a very last resort though
<9> i am a kde fan
<0> ubuntu forums/lists would be highly preferable
<0> Alexi5: you'll be wanting kUbuntu then :)
<9> ok
<11> The problem is most of the issues that come into the channel are not anything we can help
<15> GPLGeek, I've been hanging around here a long time (and all too often fall into the category that Ng mentioned). The really good helpers haven't been seen much the last couple of months
<9> do they have the same packages
<0> nickrud: it's a surprisingly hard thing to do consistently for a long time
<3> ubotu tell drummer about rootsudo
<0> nickrud: mostly people help really hard for a while and then burn out and get a bit annoyed and leave
<11> I think one of the problems is people trying to use apt-sources from ubuntu to debian and reverse
<15> Ng, yeah, I've seen that
<11> and then complaining when a package breaks
<15> GPLGeek, oh, you don't realize :)
<16> Hey... I've got a quick question
<0> GPLGeek: entirely possibly. Some of us do strenuously advise against using extra repositories, especially debian ones ;)
<0> but others are a lot less strict about that :/
<17> gah
<3> everyone thinks cause its debian based they can use debian sources :(
<6> gnomefreak: I'll take a quick look there.
<11> Custom repos are good for some apps, but distro repos are dangerous. you can break a system easy.
<3> drummer: i really think the su is conflicting with sudo and now neither work but im not 100% on that
<0> GPLGeek: I take a pretty hard line and say that even custom repos are a bad idea, and I'm usually right because they're usually just some dude who builds a package for himself and slaps it on the web with no commitment to keep it updated ;)
<18> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552860
<18> what is the name of the GTK+ package
<18> i did the apt-get search
<18> but it listed thousands of things
<10> cavediver: saw my PM?
<3> gtk2?
<16> Ubuntu thinks that my speakers are headphones... I have some rather expensive speakers and they work fine on Windows (I have a dual-boot system). However, the sound quality on Linux is horrible.
<5> gnomefreak: nah, 1.2 it seems
<15> mark_, libgtk2.0-0
<0> mark_: I think you want libgtk1.2-dev
<3> ah
<18> thanking you all very much :)
<15> androxxl, I really oughta not do this at work :)
<11> Ng, I have had many cases where custom distros have been awsome. I have had a few cases where they were not, but when dealing with newbies it is probably better to either stick with your distro's sources or compile your own stuff
<11> So yes I agree
<5> mark_: libgtk1.2-dev
<0> GPLGeek: yep
<16> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong?
<5> trev7389: look in /usr/share/doc/alsa* ISTR something about that (swapping speaker/headphones)
<6> gnomefreak: Ok I read the page. How does that impact my situation? I cannot run Synaptic nor several other packages - When I type in my sudo p***word - the package does not run. I have NO sound, on boot it says permission denied for /dev/dsp I can go on - but....
<5> drummer: are you a member of the audio group?
<1> !ipod
<14> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
<3> drummer: if enabling su screwed up your sudoers than i would suggest getting rid of su (people come in here all the time with su issues affecting sudo)
<6> amphi: I used to be! I've been using the PC for quite some time and running Breezy for several months - these problems JUST occurred.
<3> there is a reason why on that page says not recommended
<5> drummer: ok
<6> gnomefreak: I can disable su access easily enough - but will that ficx the problem - (and if so How?)
<6> gnomefreak: ficx = fix
<3> drummer: if the 2 are conflicting it might but from what ive seen people having to add themselves again
<16> @ amphi Nothing there...
<19> anyone here manage to install KFTPGrabber on normal Ubuntu?
<3> i read typo well :)
<18> how would I correct this error?
<18> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552876
<3> mark_: what are you compiling?
<5> trev7389: oh, well, you must google then
<1> is the multiuniversal repository down?
<18> xmms
<3> mark_: is there a problem with the one in synaptic?
<6> gnomefreak: Uh, if i do not have access to root and my current login sudo has screwed the pooch, how do I "add myself" again?
<9> which desktop do you guys find to be more responsive:kde or gnome
<11> drummer, I think you need to fix your sudoers file by adding your user: usernamehere ALL=(ALL) ALL
<18> a problem with xmms in synaptic? :\
<3> mark_: also have you run sudo apt-get build-dep xmms
<20> hi
<3> mark_: xmms is in synaptic
<3> !info xmms
<20> exist a way of make more verbose the logs of installer?
<14> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
<3> ^^^^
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