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<0> cafuego: I only realized I had done so after I was on the cushion of Gentoo.
<1> Draconicus: true about gentoo, but compiling from source was brainless, unlike on Ubuntu
<1> adriyel: I'm trying to find that out, because I'm considering getting an amd64
<2> my 1394 firewire module is not loading
<0> carpediem: Understood. :)
<3> carpediem: depends...can you live on gplflash?
<4> Me+Windows: "Eh, it's all broken, as usual. D*%&." Me+Windows+time: "Still broken? Screw it. What's this Linux thing all about?" Me+Google: I can get one that's free, and has good reviews, and has Live CDs so I don't have to commit? Whoa..." Me+UbuntuLive: "I have no idea what I'm doing, but this seems to do something...aw, heck, I'll install and play" Me+Ubuntu: "Hey, this is cool! Ohp, I broke it. I fixed it! I broke
<3> there isn't a propietary flash module for 64-bit
<1> adriyel: hmm, yeah, I suppose that's not a deal breaker.
<3> well, carpediem I can sum it for you like this
<1> adriyel: anything else that doesn't work?
<3> if it is propietary, unless it is made by nvidia, it ain't made for 64-bit
<3> if you can get the source, you
<3> are golden
<3> ubuntu and gentoo have the best 64-bit environments
<1> adriyel: yeah...I know, which is why I was thinking I might want to go back to gentoo if I get 64
<3> if all else fails, you usually have a 32-bit chroot to fall back on
<3> nononono, use ubuntu
<3> gentoo is horrid, I would know, I used it for over a year
<1> adriyel: If I'm compiling alot in Ubuntu, I would go back to gentoo.
<1> adriyel: I used it for two, very familiar, not so negative about it here.
<3> carpediem: you won't be mate
<5> will anyone help me install Thunderbird?
<3> it's all made for you in ubuntu's repo's
<6> you know i've used ubuntu since 4.10 and i've never seen much of a compelling reason to use the AMD64/EM64T version of it anyway.
<5> on Ubuntu
<3> carpediem: but if you run into an app or two that isn't in repo's...you can either 32-bit chroot, or compile it yourself
<4> pedrodamis: I can try, whatcha got?
<1> adriyel: I'm the kind of person that installs everything ever made, tries it for 10 minutes, then looks for something else new to try. So abundant repos is important to me.
<3> frankly, there isn't a really good reason to use 64-bit unless you're cracking p***word hashes or doing scientific calculations (cough...guess which I do?)
<2> anyone have any experience with 1394 and or firewire
<7> wastrel: doesn't work
<8> adriyel: Oh, it runs TWICE as fast!
<3> carpediem: Ubuntu's 64-bit repo's are fairly identical to 32-bit ones if I recall correctly.
<3> cafuego: fsck off. :P
<4> carpediem: What have you found that's really cool and/or useful?
<3> *Grins*
<8> adriyel: (Because half the functioanlity is missing)
<5> i extracted Thunderbird, went to the command and did the 'cd Thunderbird', but the /.configure wont work
<3> cafuego: LOL
<1> tonyyarusso: oh, gosh....do we have all night?
<6> the way i see it, if you're doing scientific calcuations, you have no business playing 3D games anyway. and if you need the 3D graphics for scientific work, then go buy a workstation-cl*** card.
<5> i dont wanna hold anyone up
<4> pedrodamis: First off, 1.5 I take it?
<5> yes
<8> eobanb: The 3D works fine as long as you were not silly enough to buy ATI.
<1> tonyyarusso: one of the most impressive peices of software on Linux, imo, is amarok.
<3> carpediem: I'll be honest with you mate, I have an AMD64, I gave up on 64-bit awhile ago...it's not that it is bad, its just there isn't any advantage
<9> bzbb: it's been some time since i used mysql but i belive the p***word is kept in a file in the mysql data directories
<5> i dont know how to install things without command
<3> 3D is fine if you use nvidia...ATI n00b. :P
<4> carpediem: Unfortunately no, since I'll be going to bed soon, but you can feel free to leave a list in #tonyyarusso if you'd like.
<5> is there an easier way? dont laugh now, haa
<1> adriyel: not any faster?
<9> bzbb: if you have root access to the filesystem you should be able to manually change the mysql p***word
<6> tonyyarusso, i think we're actually starting to make progress in explaining to huge numbers of new users that they shouldnt just be compiling every piece of software they want to install
<9> bzbb: but i don't remember any details...
<7> found it
<3> carpediem: meh. a little. nothing noticeable. doesn't affect 3d performance any to my knowledge
<3> only in intense calculation or big number situations is there a difference
<7> wait, no, thats not it
<3> p***word hash cracking...scientific stuff.
<3> thats the two most common usages for it
<3> oh yeah, that and pov-ray.
<1> adriyel: okay, then it's not worth it to me then. I was thinking dual-core perhaps.
<4> eobanb: Progress, yes. Not all the way there, but hey.
<3> carpediem: dual-core, if you have an SMP enabled kernel, will give you an appreciative difference
<5> forget the installation
<10> ok, i **** at linux and i cant mount a windows partition, or better yet cant get permission to access it
<3> dual-core is *nice* on Linux
<3> I wish I had dual-core
<5> i need to learn Ubuntu the right way
<6> well a year ago there were just gobs of people trying to install random rpms or getting the source for something like apache or gaim, and now i hardly notice any
<1> tonyyarusso: as for most useful software...I guess I'd need a category. Games, development, audio/video....etc.
<3> (get an AMD X2 3800 or better :) )
<6> maybe it's sensory adaptation.. :/
<11> smp kernels are for hyperthreading too, right? i'm too tired to recall
<4> pedrodamis: For 1.5, the easy way is to wait until Dapper in April. If you must have it now, the next best is to read the wiki page specifically for that at !thunderbird1.5
<10> so any help would be appreciated
<3> eobanb: nah...people got smarter
<1> adriyel: yeah, I think so. I run my own mail server and web server on this machine, so dual core will probably go a long way.
<5> oh ok
<5> sounds good
<5> thanks man
<3> carpediem: oh yeah.
<12> What's a known linux-friendly S939 motherboard with SATA?
<3> web server might appreciate an increase (minor) in 64-bit...won't be able to touch dual-core thugh
<4> carpediem: Not games, not into that. Very limited knowledge here, so devel isn't big either. Other stuff's good, if nothing else for curiosity. Do do some work with web sites, for one example of a specific area.
<3> quux, I use an A8N-SLI with success
<10> anyone know why i would get permission denied when i try to access my windows partition?
<3> thor: it belongs to root
<12> adriyel: interesting. I have the a8n-CM
<1> tonyyarusso: very impressed with phpmyadmin right now. Hmm, what else.
<3> become root, defeat your enemy
<13> Ummm... anyone here experienced in music and music theory, and if you are, would you come to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
<3> quux, user error?
<13> Sorry for the non-sequitun.
<12> oops, a8n-vm CSM
<13> *sequitur
<3> Razor-X: was about to correct your spelling :P
<10> and how would i give it access to all users?
<13> adriyel: Meh.
<12> No. Driver probs with this nvidia nforce chipset
<14> heya folks
<1> tonyyarusso: itching like crazy to try out Zimbra. The demo is fantastic.
<10> how do i give that partition mount access to all users then?
<12> the 'user error' was in getting stuck with this version of the a8n
<3> carpediem: what is Zimbra?
<1> adriyel: its basically a full blown Outlook-via-Ajax, under GPL
<1> adriyel: except it does many things Outlook can't do
<3> carpediem: I don't want Outlook :(
<3> evolution is evil enough, kthx.
<4> carpediem: What's it for?
<1> adriyel: like automatically shows a google-map when you hover over an address in an email.
<10> i would appreciate any help, i **** at this
<1> tonyyarusso: webmail/calendar/etc
<1> adriyel: should try the demo on the website.
<3> carpediem: I don't like ajxa.
<3> ajax.
<2> anyone know about firewire?
<3> I want a C/C++ app to download
<3> otherwise don't waste my time
<3> :P
<15> what is it again the command to copy a folder and its contents to a second location?
<4> carpediem: Ah.
<1> adriyel: the backend is standard opensource like sendmail, etc.
<10> adriyel: how do i un-belong it to root?
<1> tonyyarusso: hmm, what else. Beagle is fun (adriyel will yell at me now).
<3> thor, either make a change in fstab...or become root
<3> aka sudo
<9> what's ajax?
<3> carpediem: I don't need to say anything, do I/
<3> ?
<1> wastrel: have you used google maps?
<16> thor: try something like "users,umask=0002" in your mount options
<1> adriyel: lol
<9> carpediem: somewhat
<3> carpediem: I'm a C zealot...so much so, I don't like OOL'
<9> carpediem: i don't travel much
<3> I don't like C++, python, VB, .NET, C#, web2.0-fluffy-gayness, or any of that other crap
<10> alright i try that
<1> wastrel: well, try maps.google.com, notice you can drag the map, and it gets the new tiles without a screen refresh. That's Ajax
<3> if it even has the word object in the language anywhere, I'll go bezserk
<17> hi
<17> hi there
<17> got a few question regarding this ubuntu linux
<1> wastrel: it gets used for alot of stuff that interactively update elements of a web page without reloading the entire page. Google Suggest uses Ajax as well.
<17> can i test my php with this ubuntu?
<17> like windows?
<17> i can use wamp server
<18> how do i install from a live-cd ?
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