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Comments:
<0> aridese, is the firewire chip or card being detected? as in, does it work with other firewire devices
<1> Can Amarok download music FROM my iPod?
<2> it's useful info to me, just stating my method :]
<3> kethinov: nothing happens, nothing is listed
<0> aridese, or is it that firewire isnt working at all
<4> can some one help me install Apache
<5> aireson: my friends and family can't use windows because there systems get taken down by adware and spyware every month. Not sure they are better off there either.
<3> eobanb: it used to work a week ago, but i have no way of checking since ihave no other firewire devices
<0> aridese, i tried starting up once with my ipod plugged in, and it added it to fstab and from then on it just worked when i plugged it in.
<6> aridese, then the kernel may not even see the hardware that has the firewire port. are you sure the port works?
<7> carpediem, tell them to get macs
<8> hmmm. Anybody here use beagle?
<5> aireson: I do exactly that, so I can start doing something else with my weekends than helping them fix stuff.
<3> eobanb: yeah -- it's not listed as a /dev/ device
<7> carpediem, xD
<3> kethinov: nothing about firewire is said in dmesg
<9> hi everyone
<7> carpediem, if u ever charge, tell them to stick with windows ;)
<5> aireson: lol
<3> kethinov: and the device manager crashes :-/
<0> aridese, it sort of sounds like your firewire card could be the problem.
<6> aridese, reeks to me of a hardware problem
<9> what do I need to do to be able to run games fullscreen? (supertux)
<10> aireson: How is it illogical if I would be likely to buy my next computer from them if they did, but not if they stay the same? If the majority can barely use Windows, then there will be no real change for them. Lenovo is the company that took over the PC line from IBM; they manufacture the current ThinkPads.
<0> aridese, if it's a newer ipod, you can also use it through USB.
<11> Hm, that diskmounter script said 'No usable windows/mac partitions found'
<12> damn I updated my system and now when I reboot i get this error "Load Error! Press any key to reboot
<5> tonyyarusso: because we are a small part of the market.
<3> eobanb, heh, it does mount through USB. just doesnt charge, and i can't use it for longer than 5 minutes
<0> aridese, if you have more than one firewire port, you might try one of the other ports
<7> tonyyarusso, ok im in
<0> aridese, well you might have to end up charging it some other way then.
<3> kethinov, yeah, but it worked a week ago. is there a way to check what devices are detected?
<0> what do you mean no longer than five minutes?
<12> can someone help me fix this?
<6> aridese, type "lspci" see if it's in there
<10> carpediem: So? What loss is it to them to make one more sale? Unless Microsoft has them locked in a punitive exclusive contract.
<3> eobanb, i have an older ipod with a weak battery, it dies very quickly
<0> oh, i see.
<3> kethinov, 0000:02:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
<7> crimsun, hm i cant find it anywhere lol
<10> aireson: Maybe we can start something on the ThinkWiki...
<11> Grr, filesystem is apparently 'SFS'
<11> Any clue on that?
<5> tonyyarusso: because, Lenova must support it if they distribute it. Having the support for a small market isn't worth the expense.
<6> aridese, well if thats the only firewire card ya got then the kernel at least sees it
<13> crimsun: I have ubuntu installed on a partition but it wont let me boot up windows, can you help me? Windows isnt on hda1
<6> aridese, do you have any other firewire devices?
<3> kethinov, i also have a second one: 0000:02:0b.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04)
<14> cloudeh: what partition is Windows on?
<6> aridese, so you have two firewire ports?
<0> aridese, i dont think the audigy's firewire port is fully functional...
<0> i could be wrong..
<13> crimsun: hda05
<3> kethinov, i have 4 or 5
<14> cloudeh: /dev/hda5?
<6> aridese, but how many devices providing them?
<0> have you tried the ipod with the audigy's firewire port?
<3> eobanb, it's not, i can only charge it from there
<3> kethinov, two.
<6> aridese, try plugging your ipod into a different port, preferably on the other device
<3> eobanb, at least under windows it didnt work
<13> crimsun: yeah, i think
<5> tonyyarusso: they burn windows in as part of the manufacturing process. Having a separate manufacturing process for Linux isn't worth the small market for major players like Lenova.
<14> cloudeh: "I think" isn't very re***uring
<0> aridese, does the ipod work with that firewire chip on windows?
<15> hi everyone
<14> cloudeh: check with sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
<0> the via
<10> carpediem: Ah, but if all they are distributing is the hardware, there is actually *less* to support for those users. They can expressly declare that they make no offer of support for anything remotely software supported.
<3> eobanb, yes
<0> ......
<0> uh
<0> well then it's a software thing
<15> can someone help me install Apache, i keep getting this error
<0> jeez, man, you could have saved us a lot of time by just telling us that it worked under windows, eliminating the hardware possibility.
<13> crimsun: yes :)
<1> Is there anyway to check if Ubuntu is able to detect a certain USB device?
<14> cloudeh: "yes" what?
<3> kethinov, nope, doesnt work on any of the ports
<10> carpediem: Surely it can't be that difficult to simply put a fork in a conveyor belt and have it divert around that step for 15 minutes out of each day.
<13> crimsun: its /dev/hda5
<6> aridese, did dmesg say anything about any of those?
<16> eobanb: sometimes windows can run on failing systems...
<14> cloudeh: so edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst entry
<14> cloudeh: then sudo update-grub
<5> tonyyarusso: I'm just regurgitating what I've read, but I have read a fair share about it.
<13> crimsun: what do i change it to?
<3> kethinov, no, nothing
<17> Anyone know how to make a debian -> ubuntu switch without installing from scratch? (i.e. change the sources.list or something... )
<14> cloudeh: pastebin the file
<6> aridese, do other computers see the bloody thing?
<11> Anyone? SFS Filesystem? I was expecting NTFS..?
<0> rublind, that's not recommended.
<3> kethinov, sadly, yes :-/
<6> aridese, bizarre.
<5> rublind: I *think* its just a matter of changing your sources.list, run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
<17> eobanb: there's no other way, I can't use a cd
<10> carpediem: Okay, fair enough. What sort of sources were those readings from? (Manufacturers, market analysts, users, etc.)
<18> can anyone tell me how to switch my keyboard layout to UTF-8 in other languages, like japanese/russian?
<19> rublind, it will be difficult
<15> anyone?
<0> carpediem, if he does that, there's quite a good chance he'll badly break his system.
<3> kethinov, could it possibly be because of whatever is supposed to detect it not working properly?
<6> aridese, have you tried the cl***ic reboot / try again thing? (no, it's not just for windows users ;))
<19> rublind, things will break
<17> Okay, then is there a way to install ubuntu from a floppy?
<3> kethinov, hehe, tons of times -- it didnt work for half a month now
<5> tonyyarusso: I read alot of Linux trade rag. I've no compiled list of sources I can give you, though
<19> rublind, you mean create a boot disk?
<10> rublind: It's better if you have a significant time span between them. As in be using stable Debian and turn off updates for a month and then upgrade to current Ubuntu, so they have time to sync packages.
<0> rublind, no, the 2.6 kernel doesnt fit on a floppy.
<5> cobanb: okay...set him straight for me then.
<13> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8581 there :)
<0> rublind, why cant you use a CD drive?
<10> carpediem: Okay, just trying to get a sense of it.
<6> aridese, the only time i've ever had usb / firewire devices ignored by the kernel is in the case of a corrupt filesystem, and usually dmesg has something to say about that... so, i dunno man.
<18> can anyone tell me how to switch my keyboard layout into UTF-8 of some form?
<11> Gah, im going to cry. Im in the Gnome diskmanager thing and it shows up as NTFS :( Im so lost
<17> eobanb: the cd drive I have I can't boot to. I tried using sbm, but I can't get the correct i/o ports.
<10> carpediem: Will probably still try to do something though, because I don't feel like being discouraged just yet ;)
<0> adriyel, it's not really a matter of keyboard layout. i think you're thinking of character set.
<18> eobanb: either one will work
<5> tonyyarusso: I think I missed the beginning of your conversation. What is it you are trying to do?
<0> adriyel, well what are you trying to do?
<18> seriously though, I need to be able to type in other languages
<18> hebrew, japanese, greek, russian
<3> kethinov, heh, ok -- i do have a bit of a corrupt filesystem on my hands though, since i was trying to install linux onto my ipod and dd'ed to my desktop instead of the ipod... bam. i guess ill just use USB then, thx for the help
<0> ...all of those?
<2> adriyel: i belive there's a keyboard switcher applet for gnome
<3> adriyel: privet hui
<18> problem is, I'm using fonts that noone can see
<15> eoband: can you help me?
<18> wastrel, don't ***ume I'm using ubuntu :P I just need a "linux" solution
<0> quikstrike, i'm sorry, i didnt catch your question.
<13> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8581 i pastebinned it
<15> oh ok
<10> carpediem: Make it so the next time I buy a computer I don't have to pay for Windows, but still be able to have the confidence and re***urance of buying from a reputable source. And I really like my current machine.
<17> So, is there any way to install ubuntu without a cd-drive?
<2> adriyel: gnome isn't only ubuntu :]
<0> something about apache, quikstrike ? can you be more specific about the error
<18> wastrel: KDE, bish :P
<15> eobanb: yeah let em post it
<5> tonyyarusso: there's Walmart, they sell Linux PCs...pieces of crap, but still
<18> kanotix if you must know (thankfully still based on debian)
<14> cloudeh: first of all, remove the last XP stanza on lines 281-285
<5> tonyyarusso: there's also a section on pricewatch.com for PCs with no OS.
<2> adriyel: i'd imagine there's a similar applet for kde
<13> crimsun: okay
<18> wastrel: it switches the keyboard layouts, yes, but it isn't UTF
<18> noone else can see it
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