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<0> initard: the chroot'd partition will still use the networking and routing of the normal kernel, but i'm guessing it doesnt have resolving information set
<1> quick networking question guys. not really the right forum but i figured somebody here knew the answer. ok, i spoofed the MAC address on my windows box with the same MAC on my linux box. i did an ipconfig on the windows box and i got the identical IP addressed ***igned to it as i have on my linux box. much to my surprise, it actually WORKED! my question is, why did it work? i have to 2 physically different computers, on the same router, wi
<1> th an identical MAC address on both NICs being ***igned the same IP address from the same ISP.
<0> CNAP: what are you trying to do?
<2> .
<3> who wants to die?
<4> mmmiiikkkeee: does fglrxinfo say ati or mesa (don't paste it here)
<3> I thirst for blood!
<5> mesa
<5> and it said that when i tryed the ati driver previously....
<0> CNAP: my guess is the router gives out the IP's based on MAC. It doesnt check to see if it's already given out the address. Keep in mind nothing on the network will probably work with two identical devices.
<6> oneko no such file
<7> nevermind, i found out how, type mondobackup in terminal
<8> yipe if you are going to set it to boot to console mode you might remember that setting runlevel 2 to console mode (removing the symlink to gdm from /etc/rc2.d/ ) will leave runlevel 3 4 or 5 as X mode. i.e. sudo init 3 would start x via gdm
<1> oneko: well my ISP only allows 1 MAC address per port, and i needed to have my windows box and linux box on the internet. so since they blocked the windows box i spoofed the MAC and copied over just for sh*ts and giggles, and surprisingly it worked...



<0> CNAP: just use NAT on your linux box
<0> CNAP: ISP wont be able to see more than 1 MAC
<9> orbin, yes
<4> mmmiiikkkeee: that means it's not using the fglrx driver
<4> mmmiiikkkeee: is this a 32bit sys.?
<5> yea
<5> multiprocessor
<1> oneko: i tried it and it still didn't work.
<5> and ypertheriding...
<5> if tha matters
<3> I have no idea what you just said
<0> CNAP: you may have misconfigured it.. anyway, setting the same IP/MAC on both definitely won't work
<3> and nevermind, I'll stay with gnome
<4> arrick: just to eliminate one possible solution, have you tried reconfigging xserv-xorg?
<4> *xserver-xorg
<8> yipe k
<4> mmmiiikkkeee: but is' not a 64bit install?
<10> _jason, yeah!!!! compiled without any errors..
<5> i downloaded a different kernal that had smp support if tha matters?
<5> no not 64 bit...
<0> CNAP: it may be possible, and it may work for brief periods, but the router won't be able to figure out who is sending which packets
<11> arun: hrmmm, guess I need to check what I did :)
<10> _jason, what now.. sudo aptitude install checkinstall... right..
<12> how do i start fce4?
<11> arun: you do that once to install the checkinstall program. Then you just do 'sudo checkinstall' instead of 'sudo make install'
<13> _Dez: log out, log back into its session
<3> so, I want to uninstall xfce and fluxbox, 'cause I didn't like them
<4> mmmiiikkkeee: sudo apt-get remove whatever that fglrx package is called, then use the seveas' repos method described on the ati wiki to get a newer verrsion of fglrx
<10> _jason, oh ok..
<0> CNAP: i often just recommend people go down to wal-mart or fry's or whatever and just pick up a $40 all-in-one Linksys switch/router
<13> _Dez: alt. "startx"
<1> oneko: yeah i'm sure my ISP will catch on. apparently i lied, i'm not on a router (just looked at it, it's 2nd hand and i just plugged everything in) i'm on a plain old L2 hub
<3> I go to synaptic, and mark the packages I installed for complete removal
<3> but it doesn't include the big list of dependencies
<9> orbin, nope
<0> CNAP: your ISP wont be able to tell if you're using a properly setup NAT
<1> oneko: so it adds more to the mystery, since it should be p***ing on the packets based on MAC
<11> arun: did you compile with ./configure --enable-gui?
<3> whazzup wit' dat?
<12> dabaR when i do startx is comes into fluxbox
<1> yeah i should try that
<1> let me look up how to set it up
<10> _jason, no.. i dont want the gui.. i am actually buiding one for my project :)
<11> arun: oh, my error was gui related
<8> yipe if you want to finish switiching that thing to boot to console do this. " sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S??gdm -i " press y to remove the symlink when it asks....
<0> CNAP: or get a better ISP ;)
<8> <3> but it doesn't include the big list of dependencies <--- deps pulled in with a package are not removed with it.
<5> i did : udo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
<5> and it said: Reading database ... 85573 files and directories currently installed.)
<5> Removing xorg-driver-fglrx ...
<5> rmdir: `/usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx': Directory not empty
<3> are those supposed to be question marks or am I supposed to put something there?
<8> yipe i don't like it either. but that's how it is.
<13> _Dez: do you have a desktop manager installed, like a graphical login screen?
<8> question marks yes
<3> ehhhh
<3> okay
<0> anyway
<0> i have to do some homework
<0> later



<13> mmmiiikkkeee: we don't paste here, and please use enter sparingly, so we can all read each others text on the same page, and so we can read it easier.
<8> yipe they will be numbers but bash will put them there.
<10> _jason, got error during checkinstall http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12143
<3> okay
<3> did it
<4> arrick: something to try i guess, i'm not sure what the error means tbh
<11> arun: you need to change the version to contain some numbers (I just use the date of the cvs checkout)
<3> now, to get back into gnome, I just put in startx right?
<8> right
<13> yipe: do you have a desktop manager installed, like a graphical login screen?
<5> i am sorry i did not know... how do i say what my results are then i dont get it??
<3> yes, gdm
<13> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
<9> orbin, how do I start it?
<13> yipe: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
<8> dabarwe just rm'd the symlink in rc2.d
<4> !tell arrick about xorg
<13> oooh
<14> hey all, i just got my ubuntu system up and running, how can set up my printer?
<4> arrick: just press enter if you're not sure what an option is to choose default
<3> okay, I'm gonna try rebooting AGAIN (and I thought you never had to reboot linux:P)
<8> dabar he wants console mode by default
<13> jeeaar: did you look in system>admin>printing?
<13> intelikey: ok
<10> _jason, done installation.. lets test it out.. :)
<8> yipe you don't
<8> don't reboot
<3> but how will I know if it's going to do what I want?
<8> do this. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
<15> hello pippol!
<4> !tell mmmiiikkkeee about pastebin
<3> but then how will I know that that's the startup default?
<10> _jason, awesome.. its working.. thanks al ot
<8> yipe it will. you can test if you want
<11> arun: np
<3> I'm gonna test it
<13> yipe: once you reboot, you will know:) and don't reboot ever. I can not sudo, for 13 days now, probably.
<8> but you surely don't have to
<3> what's this?
<15> who has a problem needsto be solveD?
<13> and beside, trust your system.
<3> why can't you sudo?
<8> dabar another vote for a secure root p***wd :)
<1> ONEKO: trust me, if i could i would. they provide internet and tv to my apts. funny thing is that they use comcast, so once i figure out how to get HBO and DOCSIS to work i'll be happy
<3> what's this about not rebooting?
<3> will it damage something?
<13> yipe: my login just gives me a terminal in the top left. no window borders. both in gnome, and in openbox. You can't have two windows open at the same time, cause you can't move them, and they are all on top of each other. How can I fix this?
<8> yipe no.
<16> hey guys
<17> hey
<17> so
<17> whats the haps
<17> ?
<3> dabaR I'm a newb
<3> ask someone smart
<13> johnathan: what the sup?
<9> what is the dbe module orbin?
<16> i know this isnt the right place to ask but i need help with postfix and the postfix channel isnt helpful
<18> dabaR: Start a window manager.
<13> yipe: I can fix it, if I have to...
<9> and v41
<17> yea
<18> dabaR: In the terminal, run 'metacity &'
<16> and ubuntu people hace always helped me >.>
<15> state your problem NxNxMox
<17> d\
<13> cafuego: :P it _all_ works. sleep. wireless...
<8> dabar [alt]+right_mouse_button wont let you move the window ?
<3> dabaR you're confusing me
<4> arrick: dunno offhand. if it's already enabled, leave it and just press enter
<19> how to switch from KDE to Gnome?
<16> can i pm you ben32167
<13> johnathan: 6^
<18> dabaR: You can move the window by holding down alt whilst clicking anywhere on it.


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