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<0> hmm
<0> I already installed it
<0> lol
<1> Is there anyway to install an RPM in ubuntu?
<2> lol+1
<0> ill just try it real quick to see how it works
<3> e17 is buggy like hell.
<4> pvd e16 is a bit slow and missing heaps of stuff thats in e17
<5> valehru: you can convert the rpm to a deb with alien
<6> valehru, you can try using the alien command..
<7> valehru: you rather not use rpms in ubuntu
<0> now since I installed englightment
<2> is e17 out?
<0> I just open up a different session
<0> ?
<4> samuli: been running e17 in Vector Linux now for 6 months



<3> dot, nope :)
<7> valehru: what are you wanting to install?
<1> have a version of maya that only has rpms
<2> so bad
<4> samuli: its been very stable for the last 9 weeks
<3> linux_galore, I have tried it from time to time with daily cvs-builds, and most of it still doesn't work.-
<7> !alien
<8> my main machine's running gnome 2.14 on gentoo
<9> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
<7> ^^^ valehru
<10> how can u tell what u running dapper breezy unt so wiether ?
<1> thx
<7> hulk: lsb_release -a
<3> but if it's that much better by now I really want to try it out.
<10> thanx!
<7> hulk: yw
<11> Hi guys, How do i start SSH on linux
<0> How do you enable enlightment now that it is installed?
<8> Nullified: client or server?
<3> pvd, logout and log in.
<0> oh ok, thats what I thought
<11> server Tidus
<0> thanks, brb
<7> pvd: log out and on login screen click sessions than choose enlightenment
<4> pvd you select it in the login screen
<3> and remember to check session to enlightenment.
<12> could someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning
<10> and how u check what kernel u using ?
<8> Nullified: on ubuntu, 'sudo aptitude install openssh-server' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start'
<5> hulk: uname -a
<11> thanks tidus
<10> thanx :)
<13> Hmm, when I logged out and I saw the login screen I got a weird scrambled image up at the top of my screen?
<13> Ive had this problem before when I installed kde
<13> anyways, the point is, I can't select a different session since it pushes it out of the screen.
<14> hi
<2> lo
<12> could someone open that file http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/schule/RandomTable.java and tell me if he sees the special characters in the first comment in the code, right at the beginning
<14> have some problems with and kaffeine, dmesg says: b2c2-flexcop: B2C2 FlexcopII/II(b)/III digital TV receiver chip loaded successfully
<14> , but kaffeine: no DVB devices found, what do i wrong ?
<10> hum i need a bit of advice ... i am trying to make ivtv work (it doesnt) i was using 0.4.0 since that is recomendein in most howtos however i read on ivtvdriver.org that u prolly have to upgrade to 0.4.x if u get a newer card ... but i cant figure out quite wich one to use i am using breezy and (Linux Media 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
<10> ) please someone advice me ?
<4> bombero: kaffeine is a media player not a front end to a video card
<4> bombero: point kaffeine at a file and it will play it
<10> shuld i use 0.4.5 for kernels <= 2.5.15 ? is that safe ?
<14> linux_galore, and for what has kaffeine "Go!" menu and DVB-Item ?
<13> now, that was just weird. I logged out and started enlightment session and it was a blue screen with no options to use menus or anything.
<13> blue/grey screen
<8> pvd, enlightenment's menu system is bound to the mouse buttons
<8> left click on the desktop for the user menu
<13> the default theme, is horrible btw, lol
<13> thanks
<13> anyways, I am just trying to run gnome with the enlightment file manager
<13> Gnomefreak, are you still here?
<7> yep
<8> pvd2006: right click for the config menu, or mash the mouse wheel in to get to a menu that combines the two
<8> pvd2006: as for a light file manager, the rox-filer works quite well
<13> Tidus, how do setup rox-filer as default
<11> any command line based IRC clients?
<15> irssi
<7> Nullified: irssi,bitchx



<7> among alot of others
<8> pvd2006: that i don't know
<11> apt-get irssi ?
<7> Nullified: nope its already installed
<7> Nullified: commmand line type irssi
<11> awsome!
<13> brb
<11> when it says change channel with ^X is that ctrl x?
<8> yep
<7> Nullified: yep
<8> or you can hit ALT+<the number of the window>
<16> w00000
<7> Nullified: ctrl+n will change windows for you
<11> right, Thanks guys, now im off to work, to listen to people about their Internet problems and then...chat on IRC instead of talking to them...
<17> IRSSI^Nullified: or use ctrl + P ctrl + n
<11> thanks all
<15> irc as root users may get shot every now and then
<2> oh
<2> what's root?
<7> !root
<9> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
<17> dot618: the admin user ( "super user"
<4> bombero: try kdetv -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11602
<2> really?
<2> someone told me in the bsd, root is not so powerful
<14> linux_galore, ok, thanx
<17> dot618: they told you wrong :)
<2> o.o
<13> lol
<8> on unix period, applications are set up so that you should never need root access to run them
<13> what is more powerful than root?
<2> uid 0?
<8> you should only go root if osmething's broke and you gotta fix it
<17> dot618: yup
<8> and on linux, UID 0 = root
<2> hehe
<4> dot618: root is root
<13> so there is a even higher access on bsd than root?
<13> that doesnt make sense
<2> god?
<4> although you can get kernel patched to restrict root
<18> i need help installing a perl module
<17> pvd2006: nothing is higher than root on *nix
<4> patches*
<13> that what I thought, lol
<13> I was about to say
<2> god > root
<17> dot618: only just ;)
<2> hahaha
<2> or... NSA>
<4> there are a few tools that one can setup so if root access is gained very little can be done that will stuff up the system
<2> NSA/CIA something
<2> NSA > god > root
<8> linux_galore: like grsec2 or selinux
<13> god = root:)
<2> no, god ~= NSA
<17> dot618: nah, you can't have evil > god ;-)
<2> NSA is evil
<17> dot618: that was my point indeed
<13> BTW I wonder what OS NASA uses
<4> Tidus: yeah theres another one that does that, been around for a while too also has a built IDS, LIDS! bingo thats it
<13> im guessing some type of unix
<19> hey, all
<2> if you install their hardware crypto cpu
<2> "hacking in the cpu" hehehehe
<4> LIDS = Linux Intrussion Detection System even has a kernel patch to define when a remote root login will be banned ie they try shutdown the webserver the remote machine get banned
<13> too bad software for pcs isnt written as well as programs like NASA, with barely any bugs:)
<13> for NASA*
<19> i'm running 5.10 as a server, and yesterday for some reason, for about 3 or 4 minutes, mail, apache, dns, and ssh seemed to be "unavailable", but i could still ftp into the box from the commandline. I got the NOC to reboot the box, but couldn't find any traces in the logs of errant activity... could this have been a hardware glitch of some kind ?
<4> Linux Intrussion Detection System(LIDS)restricts the uncontrolled use of the root login on a system thus protecting mission critical services.
<2> linux_galore, except the NSA?
<4> dot618: nothing to do with the NSA
<17> pvd2006: http://flightlinux.gsfc.nasa.gov/


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