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<0> j-linux: also, keep in mind you have two problems going on here
<1> boot a kanotix cd
<2> ssh can tunnel through and map ports to machines
<0> j-linux: the second problem is that your jumpers on your drives are set wrong, you need the windows drive to be set as slave and the linux drive to be master
<3> the winetools program is unpacked but im not sure how to install it
<2> router is irrelevant
<2> other than letting 22 get to a target linux box
<4> Oh sure, as *soon* as I say something, it dies. :)
<0> j-linux or you need to install grub in the master boot record of the windows drive, and i'm not sure if that will work without a linux distro on that drive
<4> XDCMP is not secure really.
<5> Mosi: how appropriate
<6> Ramnath, no README or INSTALL file?
<2> nhaines, everything is secure over ssh
<5> (linux = master, windows = slave)
<3> install.sh
<2> look at -L option



<4> Very true, anto.
<7> Some days ago the kernel was updated to 2.6.15-18-686. I still have 2.6.15-17-686 and it seem that the kernel was not changed. What can I do about it?
<0> j-linux: i ***ume there's a reason you can't just put the linux drive back where it was, and put the windows drive in the CD tray slot?
<3> but nothing happens when i excute it
<8> trying to fix linux from windows is a little like whining to your big sister to stop picking on you, it may work but why go through all that trubble....
<4> It is okay to install GRUB on a Windows machine. It is not okay to delete your Linux partition after you do that, though. ;)
<4> Err, a Windows drive, I mean, not machine.
<5> Mosi: apparently Windows doesn't like being in the secondary hd slot. I'm trying to avoid hours of trying to get this to work :S
<0> j-linux: isn't it already too late for that? :P
<5> Mosi: I was avpiding that option becuase it involves some strange configurations...
<9> help!
<9> my computer just turned orange!
<10> if i have a yahoo account can i use gaim for instant messanger ?
<5> Mosi: yeah... I think it is...
<11> exit
<9> kosnick: yes you can
<12> bestadvocate, squeeze and and drink the juice ;)
<11> oops.
<4> bestadvocate: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
<13> quit
<0> j-linux: multi-booting usually requires strange configureations anyways ^_^;
<9> dapper
<12> nhaines, dapper - obviously ;)
<4> bestadvocate: the new Dapper theme is very orange in places. ;)
<10> bestadvocate : could you plz explain ? i have tried but no works
<9> I think i still like warty's theme the best
<14> !dapper
<15> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
<4> Actually, I do like it. :) But I'm sure they'll tone it down a little.
<16> I wonder about Dapper's official CD cover? more people?
<0> j-linux: i feel like a gimp for not saying this before, but the easiest thing to do would probably be just to switch your drives around wihtout ediitng the grub file, so linux boots normally. then just add a working windows boot label to the grub file so you can boot to windows from that menu.
<17> hello everyone,
<0> j-linux: unless you know windows won't boot that way
<4> Windows should boot that way--it registers the drive letters by serial number.
<17> someone knows how to open p***word encrypted pps files in ubuntu, if possible with ooops
<4> bestadvocate: nothing for it but to change to another theme than Human. :)
<5> Mosi: I think that Windows won't work that way without some strange configuring. I'll have to look into it. I need to check if this cafe is closing in 5 min or if it stays open late tonight :S
<9> KakiPukul: a diverse bunch of Suit warring people
<9> this is the buisness edition
<0> j-linux: i know for a fact it normally works fine that way, but when you're using a laptop and an external hard drive adapter, it might not work the normal way. you never know. :(
<9> does anyone know where you can find packages for the old versions of the Human themes?
<17> @linuxmonkey u were saing sometyhing yesterday buth i cant find it in my logs, pls repeat mesg pc went down due power failure
<5> Mosi: hmmm... Maybe I will just try that then...
<4> bestadvocate: packages.ubuntu.com
<0> j-linux: if you can't just do that, you have two other options. either install grub on the windows partition, which i don't remember how to do, but is not terribly hard, just a little arcane
<5> Mosi: I would rather have Linux be in my main hard drive slot anyway...
<3> To install WineTools extract the archive in a temporary directory and call
<3> "./install" as user "root". WineTools will get installed at
<3> /usr/local/winetools.
<14> milamber, regarding what?
<9> i think they may be the last versions of a brown system theme for a while,
<17> newsservers/readers
<0> j-linux: or you can just have it boot from the slave drive, and have a grub boot label that points to windows
<14> oh ya here let me pm ya
<17> k
<0> j-linux: er, boot form the secondary drive (which means making it the master)
<5> Mosi: so if I move Linux back to its normal spot, should I set it as slave or master?
<0> j-linux: if you move Linux back to it's normal spot, just about everything is already set up perfect, except you need a way to make grub jump the boot process to the other drive. which basically just means adding a label to point to windows.
<6> Ramnath, check that the install script has executable permission?
<18> I'm running ubuntu in a Microsoft Virtual PC enviorment, if I give the ubuntu instance more than 512MB of memory it locks upp while booting. Do I need to change some setting when hanging the amount of RAM the system has?
<9> i got to change my firefox theme, it does not jive with the new Human



<19> how can i create a team in the "ubuntu translatos group" in rosetta ?
<5> Mosi: ok... I'll do that after I get home (no tools here at the cafe)...
<4> Lani2, it should be automatically detected.
<0> j-linux: if you put the linux drive back in place, you don't need to mess with line 106 in the grub file, or the jumpers on the drive, but you need to edit the boot label in the grub file that starts at line 158 (the very last one, for XP) so it boots windows corectly
<0> j-linux: sorry for wasting several hours of your time trying to figure out just what was going on ^_^; i'm rather spacy today, i was up for 39 hours yesterday and the day before
<5> Mosi: so I don't have to change the jumpers on either hard drive?
<9> nhaines: i dont think just installing the old package will work.
<0> j-linux: you may have to change the jumpers on your windows hard drive to be a primary slave. can you tell me what the manufacturer and model on it is?
<4> Probably not, but that's where you find them.
<5> Mosi: you aren't wasting any of my time... Thanks for you ***istance... I'm learning a lot about hard drives :)
<18> nhaines_: ok, it could be some strange Virtual PC behavior, but I find it works when I set the memory to 512MB but not above. The memtest option in the boot menu works and gives no errors.
<0> j-linux: no problem :)
<5> Mosi: sounds like you need some sleep...
<0> j-linux: i got 11 hours last night, but you can't make up for a run like that in one night.
<4> What does memtest say if you use more than 512MB?
<5> Mosi: Are you in the US? It must be late there.
<0> j-linux: yeah. it's 1 here.
<5> Mosi... west coast?
<9> j-linux, its 4 in the morning here
<18> nhaines_: it reports the correct amount of ram and doesn't give any error
<4> Hm, how do I tell Ubuntu (dapper) to use eth0 (or anything) as the default gateway?
<0> j-linux: yep, Cali, south of San Francisco
<5> Honolulu here... still early...
<4> Lani2, I'm not sure what to say, then. It may be a Virtual PC problem. Better not to use more than 512MB.
<0> j-linux: it's what.. 10 PM there?
<5> 11
<0> j-linux: oh yeah, you guys don't use DST, do you?
<5> no...
<0> j-linux: that always confuses me :P
<4> It's not DST yet, is it?
<8> no
<0> j-linux: anyways, can you get inside your case to tell me what the model of your hard drives is? i'll check them both, just to be sure.
<18> nhaines_: Yeah, the only solution that I have so far, but Eclipse really eats memory ;)
<4> Oh, that's right, I was going to kill my ghost. :)
<0> nhaines_: lol. the fact that it exists means that half the year it's 2 horus difference from hawaii and the other half it's 3 hours. i don't remember which is which most of the ime.
<20> Ahhhh. :)
<17> nowbuddy nows howto open p***word encrypted files without ms-powerpoint ?
<0> milamber: XXD ;P
<0> It will become abundantly clear...!
<20> milamber, if you cannot open it in OOo, then you should save it witout a p***word in PowerPoint first.
<9> milamber: ask mr. powerpoint to open it
<0> j-linux: any luck?
<16> milamber: : there are a lot of MS Office document cracker out there... just Search for it...
<9> anyone else notice a Rhythmbox running much less efficiently since its dapper "upgrades"?
<12> few floods incoming, sorry for the inconvenience
<12> all done
<9> yay Seveas!
<21> hey. I have a simple question for you guys; I need to reinstall XP in C: but I think it will clean grub.
<16> "tsu"
<21> so I need ubuntu boot diskettes if I need to boot.
<12> kusmuk, it will indeed
<21> how can I create boot diskettes for ubuntu?
<12> !+grub
<15> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
<20> That's right, kusmuk, it will. :)
<12> kusmuk, check the above links
<22> sorry... windows crashed on me... :S
<12> j-linux, how surprising ;)
<8> there is also an app grub-disk iirc
<21> sveas, is there a quick utility to create boot diskettes?
<1> blame the admin
<21> without grub even.
<16> makeboot... kusmuk
<23> good morning all.. i also have a question ;) installing via aptitude is really nice, cuz files are automatically stored in the right directorys.. but how do i, when i compile a program which isnt available via aptitude ? in which dir(s) must it be stored ?
<21> grub-disk, hmm.
<1> grub-floppy
<21> grub-floppy, makeboot. too many choices (:
<9> i have multiple windows open right now, but I dont reccomend running on a window
<16> choose. kusmuk :)
<24> How stable flight 5 is? safe to dist-upgrade?
<0> j-linux: how poetic :P
<16> any of them works
<22> Mosi: You asked a question about my hard drives?


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