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<0> rhyddin: Dont we all?
<1> anyone have any suggestions?
<2> awesometaylor: is there anything you would like me to try? I could just through random information at you but you might be better at steering the conversation.
<3> sounds very weird actually that it will not start
<4> watson540, please behave..
<2> s/through/throw/
<5> watson540: its not as if Windows doesn't have any issues... if paid-for software was perfect...why does support.microsoft.com exist? ;-)
<5> and technet.microsoft.com
<5> and knowledgebase.microsoft.com....
<6> kieranDOA: yep, that was the problem .. lol .. thx!
<7> no way, windows is totally perfect, everyone who uses it can install it!
<5> and all the others ;)
<0> rhyddin: No probs
<8> nobody can afford perfect software
<9> Snellgrove, thats the weakest excuse ever
<10> we all know ms is buggy lol, but its not free either, two different worlds you're talkig about..



<11> cr3 go into Administration -> Network Settings
<10> most of these people are complainingbecause they too lazy tyoo google, butill shutup now
<5> lol Windows wont install on my PC without using a floppy disk with my SATA drivers on... a FLOPPY DISK it requires. my pc has no floppy drive... Windows has a lame installer.
<12> how do i get real player or the equiv of media player on ubuntu?
<13> !restrictedformats
<14> see !restricted
<4> please, no ms vs linux here
<7> floppies are totally elite
<13> !tell CanadianSnow about restricted
<2> awesometaylor: there is on "Network Settings", there is "Networking" and "Network tools"
<15> snell: can i just uninstall vmware-player then since i'm getting server? or do i need both?
<11> yeah yeah, Networking sorry
<8> so.. no sound.. but aparantly.. /dev/dsp isn't in use.. any ideas.. it has been working fine for ages now..
<6> dappers installer is the best thing i've ever used. if u cant install with that then take up another profession!
<16> sd
<2> awesometaylor: I'm there and my NIC is right there, activated already
<5> chrisjw: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308402 have a look at that
<17> Snellgrove: i have to do that for my ATA drivers b/c my board is a little too new and doesn't have a good ATA controller
<9> Snellgrove, fakse. roll your own cd and include SATA drivers. just because you're incapable of operating it, doesn't make it a bad os
<7> breezy installer > dapper for me
<4> rhyddin, it's still pretty buggy
<2> awesometaylor: the ESSID and WEP key are also configured properly
<5> JohnsonE: I think you can have both
<18> I am trying to install a module and it ask for my linux kernel tree. Where can i find that?
<13> Seveas: along with a good portion of dapper :P
<19> What is the best ACPI power management software available?
<5> JohnsonE: no actually i made that up :(
<15> my dapper install froze halfway through on my first try
<20> How do I enanble auto login?
<5> i tried player earlier, and it didnt allow me to...
<6> Seveas: Granted, but for those it works for it is the best method of 'try b4 u buy' that is out there.
<4> walkover, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
<8> walkover: /usr/src/linux-xxxx
<5> but that was on an XP machine @ work..
<15> snell: so i should just uninstall?
<21> huh
<18> thanks
<22> does anyone know where i can get support for my 7800gt nvidia card, this is the third time ive been on here, no one has helped - links/forum topics anything recent would do.
<23> Seveas: you control ubotu?
<5> give it a go, I spose.. you can always reinstall later :)
<21> how awkward
<11> cr3, hmm i'm not sure then. try double checking your keys
<4> rhyddin, absolutely, it's the best thing since sliced bread
<13> Hoxzer__: system>administration>login window
<4> Spec, not yer
<4> yet*
<15> snell: main qyestion i guess is do I NEED player to access a virtual system?
<18> i have the headers. Did'nt think it was the same thing.
<5> yes
<5> or the server
<24> Gah, what's the command to exctract a bz2 tar? I thought tar -xj filename
<23> Seveas: do you know where i can get his source?
<25> what version of kde is available for ubuntu?
<21> has anyone had any troubles with those Dell motherboard with an ati radeon?
<4> Spec, apt-get install blootbot
<13> Grommet: 3.5.2
<19> What is the best ACPI power management software available? :)
<2> awesometaylor: I did, then the network manager tries to reinitialize the connection and it still doesn't work.
<26> Is there like an all-purpose wireless networking utility? Like I plan on bringing my laptop to a buddies tonight, but I'm a rookie user and have limited experience with commandline and setting up the keys and authenticating by hand. Is there a tool I can use that will let me select a wireless network, enter the keys, authenticate, etc?
<25> thanks, spike, looking to switch distros and trying to see which ones are more current :)
<23> thanks



<13> duckdown: networkmanager
<27> drivers/scsi/built-in.o: In function `do_drive_get_GTF': multiple definition of `do_drive_get_GTF'
<27> drivers/ide/built-in.o: first defined here
<27> ld: Warning: size of symbol `do_drive_get_GTF' changed from 575 in drivers/ide/built-in.o to 1307 in drivers/scsi/built-in.o
<27> make[2]: *** [drivers/built-in.o] Error 1
<27> make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2
<27> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15'
<13> Grommet: cool, have fun
<27> make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
<20> spiked: it doesn't load any command to do it ?
<13> Grommet: i do that sometimes :)
<11> duckdown: try networkmanager
<6> Seveas: I've been installing nix since the late 90's (slack, crux, all kinds of cl installs) this is the first one where i could hand the cd to my mother n law and she was able to do the install herself. simply amazing.
<25> :)
<28> Hm, I have the problem that my computer will not shutdown. It just stays on "Will now halt". Thing is that it worked with the 386 kernel, but when I installed the 686 kernel package instead, it won't work anymore. Ideas?
<23> I hate it when people regurgitate crap onto my screen :-/
<5> impressive, rhyddin :D
<26> spikeb> thanks, does it come with ubuntu or do I need to apt-get it?
<29> rhyddin, it's because linux as a whole has progressed.
<30> pittsburge needs a qb
<13> duckdown: i think you have to install it
<5> its good news really, Ubuntu is really progressive the "linux for the desktop" thing at incredible speed, really... its acomplished much :)
<29> but ubuntu still puts together a heck of a package.
<17> couldn't rabidphage have been sent a ubotu message for spamming telling him to use a pastebin?
<22> 7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.
<31> I'm getting ready to try ubuntu (as in, not kubuntu) for the first time
<7> if i have a pentium III after i install ubuntu i should switch to 686 kernel right?
<11> cr3 does your router do DHCP? if not you'll have to put things like ip, and default gateway in
<7> it's a 386 now
<13> gavagai: it wont make much of a difference under normal use
<5> gavagai: you can do, as its more optimised :) but it doesnt make a huge difference
<7> well i like optimisation
<7> when it's easy. :)
<5> how long does the ban last in this channel if you accidentally paste a load of crap? or is it indefinate?
<13> gavagai: then go for it
<5> lol gentoo user?
<7> thanks
<5> :D
<13> Snellgrove: not very
<4> gavagai, apt-get install linux-686
<7> anti gentoo if what i've read is accurate. :
<7> lol
<24> Some help with compiling please?
<6> Hey, I've been trolling the forums for about half an hour but cant find a straight answer: will XGL work with an ATI 7500? Anyone? Bueller?
<7> i'm more into the easy than the optimised. heh
<4> rhyddin, it will most likely *not*
<5> i tried gentoo, but the installer confused me.... a lot.
<13> i would think it would, at least theoretically
<5> was a while ago though, i'll stick with Ubuntu :)
<6> thats all i needed to hear .. now i wont waste my time on it ;)
<32> Snellgrove: I switched from gentoo. Installing by hand works a LOT better than their automated stuff.
<15> the ubuntu installer isn't as flawless as i'd have liked though.. i accidentally deleted a hard drive in the process >_>
<5> I'm too n00b to do Gentoo installation though!
<2> awesometaylor: nevermind, this is not going anywhere. thanks anyhow.
<7> i'm sure portage is cool but i'm not going to spend 3 days compiling my desktop
<32> Snellgrove: I have two stage-1s in my house right now. Unfortunately, their bootstrap script is broken, so I can't do those anymore.
<23> Gentoo is fun, you learn a lot :)
<32> Spikeb: I did that once. Then I deleted it b/c I want a package manager.
<4> spikeb, UFS is quicker
<23> I haven't done LFS yet, is it harder than gentoo? I found gentoo easy to understand...
<33> Is it possible for the apps you install with wine to have the /home/usrname/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/usrname/Start Menu links added and working automatically to the gnome menu?
<4> but let's kill the offtopic talk a bit
<13> hehe
<4> #ubuntu-offtopic is for that
<24> Don't tell me I have to go to #gentoo to get help about compiling ;)
<5> 'learn a lot' with a linux distro, generally means a lot of IRC, forum and frustration ^_^ i quite like the "just works" about Ubuntu
<15> amen
<22> 7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.
<34> Is there anyway to find out how large a file hierarchy is ? ... in other words, to find out how big the game/ directory and all of it's children are ?
<4> GoLoGo, quit repeating please
<24> I don't know about that.. I've had and still have tons of problems with ubuntu
<13> _azrael: come to ubuntu-offtopic for a minute
<5> Yeah, babo


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