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<0> schalken, that's a question I haven't encountered yet
<1> do we all have voice in here,i have a question?
<2> ejvalles1980: lol try debian to know the real meaning of lagging behind ;)
<3> ejvalles1980, What are you missing?
<4> I saved the html from my windows firefox bookmarks. can I just copy this into the linux firefox directory and havee all my bookmarks back?
<5> harry no that is the command for starting the x server after you get it set up
<6> farous: have you tried it? what are the features?
<3> farous, I run debian stable on most of my systems, it's not too bad.
<7> intelikey: if you read /etc/init.d/gdm you'll see the other setup that is done and things like the pidfile creation, which are important for being able to stop the daemon
<8> intelikey: how do i get it setup first???
<9> JohnsonE: yep
<2> ejvalles1980: to make sure a package is stable it needs long time of testing
<6> arafangion: better Usb support? my wireless card working out of the box again??
<4> ok! now to find the firefox directory..
<9> JohnsonE: the profile is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/somerandomsstuff
<5> harry i sujest startx



<10> nickrud: woow there are a few gconf files
<2> ejvalles1980: so most of the time ubuntu is newer debian is stble as a rook
<11> dear dapper: orinoco support would be great, thanks
<5> sladen yeah ok.
<12> How can I install all monodoc packages? I can't find "Mono Debugger" or "C# Compiler Error Reference"
<6> arafangion: well if it is caleld Long Term Support.. why is there a new released scheduled
<6> ?
<3> ejvalles1980, I have neither of those problems. Try the live-cd, if it works better, then give it a go.
<13> Its telling to do e2fsck but I dont know why!
<14> would ya'll recommend easyubuntu or automatix?
<7> jbroome: The orinoco cards are very widely used; can you please file a bug if you have a particular variaty of card that isn't working out of the box (eg. there are some new copies from China which claim to to be Orinoco, but which aren't)
<6> arafangion: well my flight 5 worked ok... I had wireless suport from get go
<15> tux0010, easyubuntu
<2> Arafangion: i know it all depend on what you need it for :)
<0> schalken, gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /desktop/peripherals/mouse/
<10> nickrud: i think i found it! ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/%gconf.xml
<6> farous: what would you do?
<15> !tell tux0010 about automatix
<6> farous: no go on the install?
<0> schalken, yup
<3> farous, Heh, indeed. Heck, I'm planning on migrating back to Debian Sarge on my ubuntu machine.
<11> sladen: i'll doublecheck launchpad, but i think it's a known issue. the card i have is fairly old (still marked Lucent), and worked fine with breezy
<8> intelikey: startx? to start configuring???
<10> nickrud: does that command reset it?
<2> ejvalles1980: the devil i know is better than the saint i do not. this is my new point ;)
<16> automatix is pure evil
<6> farous: I wanna install a lot of new stuff... so I'll biuld a whole new pc then...
<5> harry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<3> farous, But only because ubuntu frustrates me sometimes - it's too dang integrated into gnome! If I use another manager, I loose all the keyboard bindings, etc.
<15> Dr_Geek, what's so bad about it anyway ?
<13> has anyone else seen the dapper install complain about an uncleanly mounted file system?
<6> farous: well to tell you the truth... I updated from Hoary jus about 3 month ago
<8> intelikey: why did i got the errors well in fact i just followed what the wiki said correctly?
<1> i am trying to do a dualboot but i have no floppy?
<16> try to remove automatix from your system
<3> farous, My main issue with ubuntu is the automatic kernel upgrades.
<6> arafangion: but I want to set up compiz and xgl
<0> schalken, you found the right file. but deleting it is not sufficent while gnome's gconfd is running
<15> Dr_Geek, :/ uh oh ...
<8> intelikey: is that gonna work even without me connecting to the internet??
<2> Arafangion: you can stop that
<17> Arafangion: what's automatic about it?
<2> Arafangion: i use aptitude in there is keep option
<3> Flannel, The fact that it's always trying to do so.
<18> I want to start learning how to use OpenGL, but I'm having troubles getting started. I can't find a good tutorial, or even figure out what I need to install to get OpenGL working. Does anyone have any suggestions
<6> farous: what about the new release...
<17> Arafangion: only when there are fixes, you're not forced to install them though
<7> jbroome: can you making sure you either add a comment to an existing bug report, or file a new one
<5> harry i don't know why you got 'the error' nor 'what error' and yes you can reconfigure any install package at any time.
<3> farous, imho, once a working kernel is in place, it should not be touched again.
<10> nickrud, i was thinking i would just shutdown X and replace the file with root's
<17> Arafangion: including whatever holes are in it?
<19> I have a PII 266 with 328MB ram 3.5Gig Maxtor HDD, The Dapper install Locks up when Mounting root file system.. any ideas?
<7> WhatTheDeuce: openGL will work out of the box
<3> farous, Also, ubuntu's lilo support is a joke.
<6> farous: edgy eft ...
<20> Arafangion: if you remove linux-image-386 (or whatever arch you use) you won't get them
<2> ejvalles1980: i miss breezy. i know dapper is great but needs lots of tweeking and i do not have time anymore
<7> WhatTheDeuce: you can get the development headers with sudo apt-get install libgl-dev libglu-dev
<21> how to dissable kernel modules from loadint at boot time on dapper?



<10> nickrud: or maybe i dont even need to shutdown X
<3> _jason, Perhaps, but if I have to do configuration just to get ubuntu to behave more like my debian, I might as well just run debian.
<7> WhatTheDeuce: but if you want to start off with Python/OpenGL (probably the easist way to learn), then everything you need is already installed
<5> Elektrochelovek blacklist
<0> gconftool -2 --recursive-unset /apps/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse should be sufficent, and show in gconf-editor
<9> oooh, new kernel patchset :-D
<0> schalken, ^^
<7> Arafangion: the hope is that you have to do less configuration. If something (eg. hardware) does not work out-of-the box, then that is a bug and needs to be filed in the bug tracker
<17> Arafangion: right, but what's wrong with voluntary bugfixes for the kernel?
<7> Arafangion: can you please file a bug report describing the problem that makes "Ubuntu's lilo support a joke". We'd love to get hat fixed
<3> Flannel, The fact that it messes up my custom modules, and never misses an opportunity to seriously mess up lilo?
<20> Arafangion: yes :)
<2> ejvalles1980: hmm one here told me you can backup the sys so if you do not like what you get you can always restore. do not know how this work with you but i do not have the space and never tried it
<18> sladen: Thanks. I love Python, but I really need to learn more C (or C++).
<0> Arafangion, why are you still using lilo?
<3> nickrud, Because, as nice as grub is, it's fundamentally limited.
<7> WhatTheDeuce: learn OpenGL with python and it'll be easier to try things out; but there's lots of examples in C
<6> farous: i'll go drapper when I set up my new pc... thanks for your insights...
<17> Arafangion: voluntary updates mess things up? Just don't update the kernel, remove your meta package, you won't be asked for updates.
<3> nickrud, If you want to use an entire system with LVM, you _have_ to use lilo.
<0> Arafangion, true, but only on old machines in my experience
<5> lilo support a joke ? hmmm i can't use grub, have to use lilo. <shrugs/>
<18> sladen: I guess that would be a good idea. Thanks for the help
<0> Arafangion, oh. I'll not claim an opinion there
<6> intelikey: why only lilo
<3> nickrud, grub also only supports EXT2, and perhaps a few other partition formats.
<5> ejvalles1980 grub wont work on this setup
<22> Anyone had sound trouble with Dapper? I need help. None of the wiki documents worked in my case. Thanx.
<0> I like lilo, just do
<0> n
<0> n't see most of the use cases
<3> Flannel, Perhaps the kernel updates should be scripted more carefully. An automatic update should _never_ leave the system in an unbootable state.
<23> Where can I find the C header files for my kernel?
<0> Arafangion, no, false. That seems to be fud
<7> Arafangion: /boot as a straight ext2 will allow you to use grub and LVM everywhere else
<5> Arafangion actually i'm not sure grub can't work, but it can't be installed.... so end result is 'if you can't install it you can't use it'
<3> Flannel, As it did on one of my two ubuntu systems, my other grub-based system works fine.
<7> Freq: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
<22> Freq: simply install the kernel source files.
<3> sladen, Indeed, but at the time I didn't do that.
<23> Slad: thanks
<13> Can some please please help me
<7> !tell NoWhereToTurn about justask
<5> Arafangion sorry that was at ejvalles1980
<6> intalikey cool then...
<3> intelikey, The issue with grub is that it has to be able to read the partition to find the kernel to mount. lilo just goes straight to a prepared kernel.
<24> I can't lock my screen using xscreensaver on dapper. ;_;
<24> Any workarounds?
<25> hey how can i amek a luancher that starts a terminal then cd then run's a pythons script in the terminal?
<5> Arafangion yes.
<17> Arafangion: youre blaming ubuntu for your lack of experience re: lilo and kernels then? Since, it didn't update them without your consent.
<13> well that did not help
<3> Flannel, Not lack of experience.
<13> looks like it screwed up my system real good
<3> Flannel, Just different expectations.
<0> Arafangion, no, lilo maps to the actual hard partition location. grub uses bios to locate the kernel
<26> anyone care to recommend an IDE for perl development. or you think just sticking to gvim is best? I like Komodo but I don't want to spend money when there is a very "useable" tool in gvim.
<3> nickrud, grub needs to read the partition.
<27> I installed drivers for my wlan adaptor, and ndiswrapper reports both drivers and hardware are found, and iwconfig shows eth2 is a wlan connection...but it says that the access point is invalid...any help?
<26> obviously somehthing that runs well in ubuntu ;)
<0> Arafangion, precisley. Lilo does not
<3> nickrud, Indeed.
<28> hi does anyone know how i change the permissions for the example content folder
<13> Does the partitioner check all of the partitions on a hard drive?
<29> What does laptop_mode do in acpi-support file?
<5> nickrud "maps to the actual hard partition location" ? can you clear that up a little for us newbees ?
<10> nickrud: it might be that i need to shutdown X for it to work. brb
<13> The partitioner in draper is poking around in partitions of other distros.. why?
<0> intelikey, heh, rflmao, all that. As I understand it, grub needs a working bios. lilo does not.
<5> nickrud k that i can see. :)
<14> ok i tried installing the ati fglrx drivers as per the wiki
<0> intelikey, interpret what I said before, thru that prism. Gimme slack :)


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