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<0> Managu: nope. Nothing with blacklist in it. Let me see if there is a file anywhere with that name...
<1> spiritz: 2.6.15-18 is newest kernel and please dapper needs to go to #ubuntu+1
<2> There does not seem to be any accessibility stuff on the live cd. :/
<0> Managu: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
<3> gnomefreak: Ok, but actually maybe you can translate the meaning of "taints a kernel"?
<4> cratel1, that definitely sounds like a place to try.
<1> spiritz: nope never seen it before
<5> spiritz: ati is a non-GPL'ed / non-opensource driver; that is why it 'taints' the kernel
<4> cratel1, just so you can cringe some more, you might (and... might not!) have better luck in #ubuntu+1
<3> HappyFool: ok, then this is not the error ;)
<0> Managu: is that a channel for Dapper?
<4> cratel1, that's right
<6> drake flight 5 is out?
<1> cratel1: #ubuntu+1 = channel for dapper
<7> orangey, yesh, flight 5 is out



<7> *yes
<5> spiritz: that's right. it should always happen if you load the ati driver
<8> tristanmike no, it's not out yet
<9> no, fligh 5 is not out yet
<1> its downloadable and installable
<9> no
<7> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/
<3> HappyFool: My ati won't work, but I can't find any error :D there's no error in xorg.0.log. This is crazy
<1> what do you mean no?
<6> can I upgrade to amd64 with apt-get upgrade?
<7> St_Iron, G0SUB, it is out
<6> tristanmike: coolio!
<10> In Synaptic, what's the difference between "Mark for Removal" and "Mark for Complete Removal"? o_O
<9> interesting
<11> St_Iron, It is
<8> tristanmike the wiki is wrong about it ... ask in ubuntu+1
<9> you have the truth
<12> NickGarvey should i try to install it all over again
<1> flight 5 has hit the servers
<8> tristanmike the CD ISOs are test isos ... a beta for alpha 5
<4> Makura, if you only "Mark for Removal", some setup and options for that package can be left behind. This can be a good thing, or a bad thing, depending
<1> orangey: no you need a 64 bit kernel
<13> not sure if that would help
<1> G0SUB: in a sense they are all test flights
<10> Managu: What if I wanted to remove Gnomebaker? What would be the best option?
<1> flight = test
<7> G0SUB, ok, think what you want
<14> Makura, sudo apt-get remove gnomebaker
<13> GCRaya: do you get past grub?
<10> CookyPuss: Okay.
<6> gnomefreak: I know.. but why not have an upgrade path?
<8> gnomefreak yes, but the flight 5 cds are not flight 5 cds ... they are pre-flight5
<4> Makura: On the whole, it probably doesn't matter. It might prevent trouble down the line to purge (remove completely) the package
<15> hi every1
<4> Question: Is there any way I can arrange to get sound out of VMWare player (which uses OSS sound) and Cedega (my choice, OSS or ALSA) at the same time?
<16> anyone know how oi can see what is wrong with my audio drivers? or how i can reinstall them?
<1> G0SUB: no they are flight 5
<12> Yes it says it is loading but nothing happens
<7> gnomefreak, it's pointless arguing
<10> Managu: Okay.
<4> mikebot what sound card?
<15> can i get some ***istance in 5.1 matters ?
<16> Managu, i don't know
<7> gnomefreak, he's obviously not going to listen to reason
<1> orangey: i dont understand upgrade path you can upgrade the 32 kernel or install the 64 bit and go from there
<8> gnomefreak bah! but people in #ubuntu+1 are saying otherwise
<16> Managu, actually, i don't even know if i have sound drivers
<17> how do I fix my resolution?
<7> G0SUB, then they are foolish
<6> tristanmike: is there flight 5 kubuntu?
<1> G0SUB: your listening to too many people
<1> orangey: yes
<8> gnomefreak possibly
<16> Managu, just they worked until someone told mne i should use easyubuntu, now they don't work, i.e. i can't hear anything
<4> mikebot: ok, sound card would be a first place to start. Are you running ubuntu atm?
<7> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
<16> Managu, yes
<1> G0SUB: your listening to Pygi too much
<17> !fixres
<18> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
<15> gnomefreak, how do i setup my 5.1 sound card ?



<4> mikebot: at a terminal, run "lspci"
<8> gnomefreak is he wrong?
<7> orangey, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/
<6> gnomefreak: I dig it. but that means downloading a whole CD and "starting over"
<19> Gnomefreak: What have I done???
<6> tristanmike: woohoo!
<16> !paste
<18> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
<1> G0SUB: they wont release a beta flight 5 since there is no such thing
<7> orangey, enjoy :)
<4> mikebot: look for "sound" or "multimedia" or "audio"
<19> GOSUB: what have I done this time?
<6> Trihttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/
<6> tristanmike: it doesn't find it.
<16> Managu, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
<6> Tristan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/
<19> gnomefreak: FLIGHT 5 is officialy released
<1> you can not have a beta of a prebeta
<1> no kidding Pygi
<8> Pygi gnomefreak says that the flight 5 has been released ... contrary to what you said a while earlier
<20> Thank God i gave my ***y ubutnu 30 GNB
<19> gnomefreak: lol ;)
<20> *Gb
<19> GOSUB: it is released ;)
<19> GOSUB: just wasn't announced ;)
<1> G0SUB: as i said you listen to too many people
<7> orangey, hmm, you can install the ubuntu one then install Kubuntu from there, don't know, maybe it hasn't been sync'd yet
<19> gnomefreak: so you'r insulting me now :-/
<4> mikebot: ok. Now lsmod. Look for "snd-(whatever)"
<8> Pygi heh
<19> gnomefreak: and actually you can...it's called alpha ;)
<8> gnomefreak you could have corrected him then
<1> no im telling him the truth you cant have a beta release of a flight since flight is not beta
<21> can any one give me the past bin address??
<7> !pastebin
<18> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
<19> freaky: what's this then: "G0SUB: your listening to Pygi too muc"
<22> Just set up, what unix or liux based can I use?
<19> :-P
<21> thnx
<1> Pygi: flight 1-5 are alpha no such thing as prerealse of an alpha since alpha is the pre realse
<19> gnomefreak: there is pre-alpha ;)
<1> Pygi: sorry a typo it should read you listen to Pygi too much
<1> :)
<16> Managu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10016
<1> take it to offtopic
<19> gnomefreaky: but anyway, it was wrong ;)
<4> mikebot: yup, yup, looks good
<14> Uhh
<16> Managu, so it should be working?
<4> mikebot: more or less. Next thing I'd check is to see if the sound card volumes are too low (or muted)
<23> walter, sorry what do you mean?
<16> Managu, that was the first thing i checked, and none seem to be muted
<4> mikebot: should be working then, yup. (at the risk of offending): speaker plugged in the right place?
<16> Managu, hehe no offense; i'm going to try headphone and see if those work--don't know why i didn't yesterday
<15> my via82xx is drive me crazy
<24> do someone know there isnt the localization breton package for openoffice in Ubuntu ?
<24> The breton language exist : ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/2.0.1-RC5/
<24> it works under gentoo but ubuntu doesn't have a package, why ?
<25> Anyone know how to install NTP *without* 80 lbs of cruft? I don't want perl and other garbage. I just want NTPD.
<15> any ntfs reader for ubuntu ?
<4> noeljb: as in network time daemon?
<16> Managu, uh huh--so it seems the problem was the speakers after all--they need to be replaced; thanks for the help
<4> mikebot: lol, np.
<23> bside, read message from bot please
<10> thegladiator: Where would I go about making an ISO from a CD?
<6> hmmm. what are your thoughts on 64 bit ubuntu? It sounds like most people are saying NOT to do it..
<25> Managu: yes
<11> Makura, installed k3b ?
<10> thegladiator: Yep. =]
<4> noeljb: well, I haven't any experience with that, but would ntpdate be enough for your needs? It's bound to be a lot lighter weight
<25> I ran aptitude search ntp, and looked at all of the packages. Even ntp-simple tries to install perl crap instead of just the ntp daemon.
<25> Managu: no, this is for a server, and yes I really want the daemon.,
<26> anyone here good with smbfs?


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