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<0> yes cherwin...but i dont think thats what detect was talking aboyt
<1> hobbsee: Under breezy my card wasnt even recognised at all
<1> hobbsee: but ndiswrapper worked perfectly
<2> vooharmy: which card? and what happens now? card is recognised, but it wont connect?
<1> hobbsee yes its a broadcome bcmwl5
<1> hobbsee recognised but wont connect
<2> vooharmy: ah, arent there native drivers for that?
<0> detectinspeckt: do a ln <file1> <file 2> to create a hard link bw two files
<1> hobbsee: really?
<0> its thats indeed what u want to do
<2> vooharmy: maybe, i thought so, check on ubuntuforums.org
<2> in the howto section
<0> confirm that its effective by ls -i to compare the inode no of both files.. they should be same
<1> hobbsee ok ill go look thx for the tip
<3> btw; if you drag-and-drop home from the places menu onto your desktop, you get an icon that looks like home and opens the home folder, but if you drag other stuff onto the icon rather than the opened window it doesn't behave like any other desktop folder. Counterintuative. Someone should fix that :(
<4> erhm



<5> DVD jumpy image, howto give more resources?
<4> how can i find out a device name?
<1> hobbsee yep good tip thx
<4> ive got a wireless usb stick, installed the driver, but i dont know the device name
<6> how do i upgrade my OS from bb to dd?
<7> imarvind: yes i know that too, but isn't it better to explain something to someone so that he (or she) knows what you mean. if you say there or no such things as shorcuts, with no further explanation what so ever, he will take that for the truth, and that clouds there experience with linux etc
<8> !tell xmadmin about upgrade
<9> hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu onto an LVM setup, however the installer doesn't appear to support LVM - am I missing something?
<10> thanks imarvind, that would work better
<11> The command 'grep -R 'hello' *.*' doesn't work. If someone can see what I'm trying to do, cn you tell me how to fix the command?
<12> hi, my dapper (alternate) CD installs fails badly not able to detect my IDE-disk on my new Asus K8N4-E board. any hints?
<3> ummm.. ln -s makes shortcuts doesn't it? It even shows the little shortcut icon very much like windows handles them...
<9> steveire: just put '*'
<0> well actually speaking.. a link isnt exactly a shortcut.. so
<11> cool cheers
<7> pooley: at startup you can define which kernel you want to use (at least with debian) try to choose one with support for LVM and if i'm correct, you'll see an option with LVM
<0> didnt want to get into the nitty gritties of ufs there
<3> right-click, make link.. behaves 110% like a windows 'shortcut' ..
<0> yup
<0> ln -s makes a link too
<9> cherwin: ah.. it's the detaulf kernel that doesn't support LVM on the install disk? how strange, LVM is hardly rare these days. having googled it looks like I might have to use the alternative install CD...
<0> but thats a symbolic link
<0> not a hard link
<0> ln -s can be used to link folders
<13> Hello. Just upgraded to dapper. Can't get apt-get to connect, but firefox can pick up the files without a problem. Tried to turn of IPv6, but no luck. Any clues?
<8> zcat[1]_: ln -s makes (s)ymbolic links. WindowsNT's implementation of "shortcuts" is somewhat similar to symbolic links and people coming from windows justifiably think of them this way. However, note that in a Windows shortcut, you have a preferences tab in which you can configure things like start directory and command line options. No such thing with symbolic links -- for that, you use scripts in Linux.
<3> Yes, 100% like a shortcut.. you can do things like mail it and the recipient will get the actual file rather than a useless .lnk (yes, I have seen this many times)
<14> can anyone tell me where the hotplug dir is for the firmware of my wifi usb stick ?
<7> imarvind: but windows users have a better time understanding what a link is if you compare it to shortcuts
<3> so it's even better than a windows shortcut.. it does everything a windows shortcut does plus more :)
<0> i guess cherwin
<0> my bad for being too technical there :)
<15> thermal, the obvious question: are your repositories good? Other thing might be that you should have proxy enabled.
<16> Hi
<16> all
<17> Hello people
<16> sup
<17> I havent done this in ages - chattig on mirc - I'm playing around with the Ubuntu internet applications
<9> can someone tell me what the 'alternative' install CD is for?
<13> Thanks smuli. Direct connection. Can ping and manually download from repos. Driving me nuts!
<18> hello, trying out dapper from a live cd. It recognized my ntfs partitions correctly, but mounted them under /tmp, accessible to root only. Is it how it is supposed to work?
<19> !winfstab
<20> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0 0
<0> make a mountpoint where u want to mount the ntfs slices
<15> thermal, that's really odd then.. what does sudo apt-get update say?
<3> pookey: machines than can't run the GUI installer (due to lack of memory, requirement of special modules, whatever)
<0> then use the mount command to mount them
<19> nickolay, that is how it is readable by the worlds you can't write to it though
<17> @pookey - for updating from previous versions
<0> edit /etc/fstab to automount on boot
<8> nickolay: no, /tmp is not a good place for ntfs partitions. There is a script to fix that. you want?
<9> zcat[1]_: ahh, I just found if I look at an http mirror ratehr then ftp, it shows reasons, thanks
<7> pookey: beats me.. i'm not an ubuntu user, just looking at the experiences that people have
<21> is it possible to install dapper out of knoppix? maybe with just some changes in the sourcelist?
<9> cherwin: I'm a gentoo users ;)
<18> ompaul: I can't navigate to it using GUI though, so it is a suboptimal default choice
<22> im trying to su -s -H but i get "No shell" ??? how do i solve that?
<18> I know how to configure this
<18> was just wondering if it worked how it was supposed to work
<7> pookey: running slackware 2.6.16.20
<8> nickolay: just run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt



<0> what exactly do u require nickolay
<3> I think you can still make the liveCD do some textmode stuff anyhow.. not sure if it can still do a full textmode install though.
<0> the answer depends on that
<23> I have installed Ubuntu 6.06. I am trying to play mp3s in Rhythmbox. I installed gstreamer0.8-misc on a whim, because I do not know what to do.... other than what 9,000 command line people say on Google. So, what's the answer? How does this work?
<8> nickolay: it will move your NTFS mount points to /media
<16> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a wireless network and having difficulty connecting to a WPA-PSK as it only lets me have the option of 'WEP', anyone?
<19> nickolay, if your not happy with it, not having _any_ ntfs in any of the 5 machines in the house I don't have a problem with it ;-
<7> DataCore: try wpa_supplicant
<3> !mp3
<20> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
<18> imarvind: does it work correctly (in that you can navigate the partitions using nautilus) for anybody
<15> NoMP3: dapper uses gstreamer-0.10
<16> cherwin, thanks, will try that
<23> samuli: so I should uninstall 0.8?
<15> !tell NoMP3 about restricted formats
<13> samuli, it comes with a list of connection errors and some "Ign".
<19> nickolay, with it :-) [woops enter was not the intention] so I suggest that you want it to offer to mount them readable straight off the bat request it in launchpad
<15> thermal :(
<11> If I select to install server at install time, will I get a very minimal installation of ubuntu?
<4> ive got a wireless usb stick, installed the driver, but i dont know the device name, how do i find out?
<0> mount /dev/hda<x> /<mountpoint> ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
<23> samuli: i see 10 fluendo. is that the same thing?
<24> j #ck
<7> tijn: try iwconfig
<15> NoMP3: what.. fluendo?
<25> sound doesn't work on my ubuntu-dapper and I don't even know how to diagnose it
<7> tijn: then you'll see what interfaces are wireless
<18> ompaul: since I'm not involved with ubuntu deeply, I wanted to know how this is supposed to work first :)
<4> none
<24> Does ubuntu use usplash?
<23> samuli: I am reading the wiki
<7> tijn, you can also take a look at dmesg
<26> hi
<4> cherwin did that
<13> samuli - That's my feeling too. I've rebooted into 5.10, using FC5 at work. Hoping to get it fixed.
<25> can anyone help me diagnose my sound little by little?
<23> samuli: gstreamer10... mine sayd gstreamer10 fluendo
<4> but only saw it was using address 19
<18> and another question, are ati radeon X1xxx cards supported by ubuntu?
<23> samuli: I dont know what fluendo is either =]
<4> no device name
<15> thermal, have you tried aptitude?
<4> cherwin: sit0 aint a device right?
<18> the whatever package I was told to install said it was for X800 and below
<19> nickolay it appears to be, and as is now obvious ;-) I don't have ntfs ... if you care to wait a moment I will get a url of how it should be done, if your not happy with that - then go for launchpad
<23> samuli: thank youi! fluendo works!
<13> That's a good idea samuli. Thanks. I'll reboot, and I'll be back.
<27> Where can I find XGL/Compiz help channel ?
<23> thank you to everyone!
<8> nickolay: just run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
<7> tijn: unload the module, then load it again, you'll will see someting in your dmesg, if that's not the case then something is wrong
<26> im using win xp 64bit version of mrv8k driver for my wireless card (asus WL-138G) with ndiswrapper, but i get lots of errors like this: "[ 1044.257527] mrv8k: Received a ieee802.11 MGMT Frame, subtype invalid type 15, duration=0000
<26> [ 1044.257530] mrv8k: You have received an error: Rx Stuck! Reset RX and BBU"
<7> tijn: sit0 is your serial interface if i'm not correct
<18> Ic56: again, I know how to configure this manually, and ubuntu almost did the job. I care about usability for people migrating from windows though
<18> ompaul: that would be great, thanks
<4> cherwin: a yes thought it was something like that :) usbcore: registered new driver zd1211
<16> Ok, is there anything easier then WPAsuppliment ? :P
<26> if someone could help me :)
<8> nickolay: oh, ok. The consensus seems to be that /media is the better place because people coming from windows expect to find their windows filesystems there -- from Places> Computer
<24> There is a fbsplash and a bootsplash -beyond patchset. Which do I use for Ubuntu Dapper Drake? I think it's bootsplash...
<4> but i dont see a device name...
<4> wierd
<28> !fglrx
<20> hmm... ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
<19> nickolay, read this, - as for the gnomishness I to think it should handle this sweeter http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/en_GB/partitions-booting.html
<8> nickolay: the official directions in the Ubuntu user guide instruct the user to place their FSs in /media
<16> Like an addon for the Tool in 'System->Administration->Networking'
<18> ic56: what surprised me was that the partitions were auto-mounted, but only for the root user. Makes no sense to me
<8> nickolay: how do you mean "for the root user"? a mount option of "uid=0"?
<7> DataCore: wpa_supplicant isn't that hard. just read the readme and the install file (of course go through the man page as well). you have to force yourself to read those files on a regular basis in linux or else you'll wind up at irc channels for every small thing
<15> I had my windows partitions mounted for read-access ntfs and +rw for fat32. Dapper even displayed nice shortcuts on the desktop
<19> nickolay, it is the function of the prime user to allow others new hardware playgrounds - little johnny aged 3.4 with gcompris should maybe not be able to navigate to the windows partition, after all you really don't want to expose a kid the the horrors of NTFS ;-)


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