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Comments:
<0> is it possible to use multiple monitors with xgl?
<1> DaveyJ, yes
<2> ok. So I'll try to reproduce with X41, if it can helps you
<0> because i have a geforce 5500
<0> with two monitors hooked up
<0> but i have no idea how to enable the second one
<3> nct: please do. One person reports it reproducible on an X41. My X41 refuses to freeze.
<2> teh strange thing is that with a bare rosegarden, it works for the first time, but the second time or when I reload some work, freeze happens
<3> nct: aha, that confirms my suspicion about the locking. I'll note that.
<2> crimsum_ have you been trying to run timidity -iA in the same time ?
<3> nct: I've tried both with and without. My patches for it are in the kernel.
<2> ok, so I'll try again and report my findings in the bug report. If I got some saved file that make it crashes, I'll add them too
<3> nct: excellent, thanks.
<4> MadPilot, found it! . . althought, it seems to just be an opinion and not any facts. . .still searching. .
<5> Hypoglybetic, which, a list of Windows->Ubuntu equiv. apps?
<4> MadPilot Running Windows Programs on Mac, w/o Wine, nor WIn installed
<2> crimsun_ : trying the X41 right now. I don't know if it can help you, but on one of the computer with emu10k1 I've tested rosegarden with ubuntu breezy (with no freeze), sometimes some notes were never released and new note didn't got pressed. So it looks like there was already some problem in the MIDI layer
<6> are there any good application for connecting to/working with a nokia mobile in ubuntu?
<3> nct: yes, it's a locking issue, I've gotten that much with kprof
<2> crimsun_ : I've some X41 report. timidity not running. Starting rosegarden, ok ; loading file, ok ; pressing start : freeze
<4> MadPilot is Wine or WineX a virtualization?
<2> rebooting right now
<2> would you like me to try something special ?
<3> nct: and if snd-seq is loaded before you invoke timidity -iA?
<7> Hypoglybetic: no. Wine re-routes API calls to corresponding ones. essentially.
<2> do you want me to attach the rosegarden file to the bugreport ?
<3> nct: that would be most helpful
<5> Hypoglybetic, to be honest, I've no idea. I've never messed with any of the emulator/virtualization stuff
<8> how do I get rid of the screen greying when I'm asked for the root p***word?
<2> crimsun_ : this time, timidity was niot running
<9> can anybody help me with my dual-head and fglrx xorg.conf , i've got the problem that dri won't work, the config can be found here -> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/84aNd075.html and the error message from fglrxinfo and glxinfo is -> "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
<2> do you want me to try with it running ?
<3> nct: ok, that's pretty standard. What if snd-seq is loaded and timidity -iA is invoked prior to starting rosegarden?
<4> So what exactly is a "virtualization?" These blogs? or opinions or what ever these sites are suggest using "virtualization" to allow Mac to run Windows programs. . .
<4> I read it and think is it that simple, or is my small vocabulary over looking something? :-p
<7> Hypoglybetic: you mind taking this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
<10> Hypoglybetic: in another word "emulation"
<4> Flannel: yeh, i do mind . . watch, you'll send me to an "off topic" room and no one will be in there but us newbies with lots of questions. . .just spamming questions. . .
<4> Anyways, its 4 am. . I'm going to go to bed. . .maybe when I wake up my ubun2 DVD's will be done downloading.
<7> Hypoglybetic: no, seriously. #ubuntu is a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is for non support chatter.
<7> I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic, as are a lot of people here.
<5> Hypoglybetic, most of us who help here also hang out in -offtopic - it's hardly a ghetto of some sort :)
<4> OR, i could go to bed. . .:-p
<2> crimsun_ : ok, well, now it is working on the X41
<4> I'll keep that in mind for when i load IRC back up. G'night and thanks for the info.
<11> guys, why is it that i'm getting this error 'A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.' during VMware installation? i've already completely removed the vmware-player from synaptic.
<11> please help.
<11> i can't sleep... it's giving me nightmares.
<4> haha
<4> good luck gharz. its 4AM here. mucho bedo! ..
<2> although I got no sound but that is probably another problem
<3> nct: I'm more concerned about the crash than the inaudible sound at this point
<11> Flannel, i still can't install vmware... i've reinstalled vmware-player from synaptic and completely remove it...
<11> Flannel, it's still doesn't work.
<2> crimsun_ : yes, I think that was timidity's default output that somehow piointed to void. Forcing alsa make it works
<12> Hello?
<12> Wow, my nick is registered!
<3> nct: timidity only triggers the issue; the real problem is in the error handling
<10> heh
<2> crimsun_ : I remember that when the X41 crashed, I may at some point do something like killing timidity while rosegarden was running
<12> gharz: I am currently cleaning up an Ubuntu Wiki page on VMWare
<11> Warbo, thanks! i'll be waiting for that.
<3> nct: I don't have time atm to debug it, but it's high on my list of stuff for Edgy
<12> Does anyone know the licence terms of RHEL? (for my Wiki page)
<10> Warbo: it is still GPL'd
<2> crimsun_ : right now, on X41, if I launch/close rosegarden4 on X41, start/stop playing, it does not crash
<12> gharz: I've been talking about virtualisation in here for a while, but noticed that my messages weren't being sent so off to Google for how to register my nick :)
<10> but they charge you for professional support
<3> nct: you already have snd-seq and timidity -iA running.
<12> Healot: So installing it in VMWare has no restrictions or seperate licence issues?
<3> nct: at that point it /shouldn't/ crash
<2> crimsun_ : ok, that's coherent, it does not crash :-)
<11> Warbo, :) ok.
<13> Um, guys, I've got universe and multiverse enabled, but can't seem to download libdvdcss.
<11> i didn't expect/realize that installing vmware-player has an effect if i install vmware server.
<14> !copiz
<15> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, miguelsr
<11> it shouldn't be that way.
<7> alth: you update your cache?
<13> Flannel: How would I go about that? *noob*
<7> alth: using apt? or synaptic? or what?
<13> Apt.
<7> sudo apt-get update
<13> Oh, right. Yeah, done that fairly recently.
<7> alth: do a apt-cache search [], where [] is something like libdvd, find out the exact package name
<16> alth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats install the libdvdread one, which does lvldvdcss
<2> crimsun_ : do you think there will be some patrched backported for dapper ? Do you have any idea wether it is a matter of weeks or mounths ? Sorry to ask those questions but I've some dapper installed to do music and right now that's pretty compromised
<2> I've updated the bug report
<2> I think that issue should be noticed on ubuntu related music sites such as http://ubuntustudio.com/
<13> Thanks Morrowyn, Flannel.
<3> nct: there is no fix for it yet
<2> anyway, thanks a lot for your help and work crimsum_ :-) I there is anything I can do
<3> nct: if you're subbed to the bug report, you'll be notified
<2> Yes. Thanks.
<17> Does anyone else get EasyUbuntu failing to completely preconfigure a package (Macromedia Flash), causing the installer to wait indefinitely for user input?
<18> Hi everyone. I've just installed ubuntu for the first time off CD and I'm trying to figure out how I can set up a copy of the install CD on my local disk to act as the main repository (so I don't have to carry the CD around).
<18> Can anyone tell me how to do this?
<19> you can start a movie, delete the file, and it'll keep playing because the data is still on the drive
<19> or whatever file, not just a video
<20> Does anybody know about running gnome with the xfce window manager? Is that even possible? I know you can make gnome use fluxbox/blackbox/other things for the window manager part.
<1> Ohzie, try runnung xfwm4 --replace
<21> Is there anyway I can downgrade my Xorg from 7.0 to 6.9 ?
<22> ls
<1> LoneShadow, sure just install breezy
<21> hmm
<21> I have dapper right now
<19> LoneShadow a lot of stuff in dapper needs 7.0
<21> use debootstrap to install it, can I use debootstrap again on the same folder to overwrite ? or should I start from first
<1> yeah there's no way you can really get 6.9, you could do it but it would break a lot of stuff
<21> ok
<21> but is there a command to downgrade from dapper to breezy ?
<19> so you'd have to downgrade a lot of other stuff, and it would cause a sort of ripple effect
<21> or do a fresh install of breezy ?
<19> you should probably do a fresh breezy install
<1> LoneShadow, why do you need 6.9
<19> why do you want 6.9 though?
<21> we are trying out this hack on msntv :D
<21> changed firmware on this lil box, using it do a nfs boot onto ubuntu
<21> though the video driver from Intel for this is meant for older X
<21> other folks got it to work with FC3, Slackware,.. and all of them have older Xfree or xorg
<20> chavo: Thanks. :D
<20> Where is the config file for gnome where you specify the window manager?
<1> Ohzie, did xfwm4 --replace not work
<1> ?
<20> Nope, said there's already a windowmanager in place.
<12> Just finished the formatting changes on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare which was linked to earlier
<17> What do I do if apt-get returns "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"?
<20> But I know there's a place where you can specify the windowmanager that gnome uses.
<12> kwtm: Close any applications which are using apt-get (such as Synaptic)
<1> Ohzie, alright you can do it from Preferences - Session then
<23> i vaguely remember a time when GNOME had window manager selection prominently displayed in its gui preferences
<23> of course, this was long before Ubuntu existed ;-)
<17> Warbo: I have none open. I was using EasyUbuntu, which crashed in the middle. Is there some lock file I should delete? I can't find any.
<1> jonathaN, that was back in the day
<12> Ohzie: I once used E16 as GNOME's WM, but found it a bitch to set up (there are options all over the place). I found it easiest to make /usr/bin/metacity a link to /usr/bin/enlightenment
<1> when you could pick between sawfish and enlightenment :)
<12> kwtm: I don't know. Easy Ubuntu worked for me so I have no knowledge of this problem :(
<20> Yeah, when you install enlightenment it lets you use it with gnome
<20> But I don't want that! =P
<24> Hi
<12> Hi
<17> Warbo: Did you install Macromedia Flash Player? The configure script wanted a user reply, and EasyUbuntu didn't know to reply, so it kept waiting indefinitely for user input.
<24> Forgot to identify :)
<24> I had this question: I set up Postfix/Procmail so local users can send mail and it gets delivered correctly. But now I would like a program (fetchmail?) to fetch mail from my external catch-all POP-account and have it delivered to postfix to sort it out to the local users. Any idea how to do this?
<12> kwtm: Well I only tried it recently, so I used it to make sure I had ALL of the codecs possible
<17> Warbo: Okay. Will keep debugging. So you don't know where the lock file is?
<12> kwtm: No (other than the obvious /var/lock)
<20> CompuCh|p: Check the man for postfix and procmail and see if you can define files to send or whatever, and then see if you can tell it to use the stuff that fetchmail fetches?
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