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<0> can gnome run on cygwin?
<1> vb_coder: http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ (never tried it though)
<2> vb_coder, sure but it won't run very well.
<2> vb_coder, it will be slow that is.
<1> vb_coder: that page also has some links to some other projects
<3> why would you wnat to run gnome on cygwin though... jsut run a live cd with a persistent homedir
<2> yeah that would be faster.
<3> and if you have ram, use the toram option
<2> but still not as fast as hd.
<1> jetscreamer: how much ram would be good for that option?
<4> I was wondering how to make a shortcut to I program
<3> you usually need at least a gig for toram though
<2> ubuntunewbie, make a shortcut where?
<4> on the desktop
<2> ubuntulog, right click
<4> ok
<2> create launcher
<2> then fill in the fields
<4> ok I did that before and got stck
<2> ubuntunewbie, well what program are you trying to create a shortcut to?
<4> I don't know where the file is (I open it using alt f2)
<1> ubuntunewbie: if you can find the app on the menu, right click the app, and andd to panel, then drag to desktop (dapper has direct todesktop)
<4> Opera
<1> ubuntunewbie: never mind
<2> ubuntulog, okay well open a terminal. and type "which opera"
<4> cool
<2> nickrud, how'd you type that character?
<4> Oh and that's the path, got it!
<2> ubuntunewbie, yeap
<4> cool
<4> thanx
<2> np
<1> chuckyp: I have the normal smilie auto replaced in xchat (advanced preferences)
<2> gotcha
<2> brb have to restart
<5> ok
<5> more newbie questions
<5> lol
<1> chuckyp: you should almost never have to restart
<5> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36839&highlight=wu830g
<6> !list
<7> [list] you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
<5> this is my problem
<5> how do i fix this
<2> nickrud, I installed some packages via apt that need restart. new gdm etc...
<5> or get that fix to get the wireless adapter to work
<1> chuckyp: ah, restart, not reboot ok
<8> what tools are for recovering files? I want to test if I can see files already deleted
<6> isnt reboot and restart the same friggin thing?
<9> is there any simple way to install the "engage" launcher from enlightenment? it's not available in the standard repositories, but enlightenment is...i've tried installing from other repositories, but I keep getting dependency errors
<1> nubs123456: not in this case, he's just restarting X
<9> i already have enlightenment installed from the ubuntu universe repository I believe
<10> Not to sound frantic, but I accidently did apt-get dbus and it tried to "upgrade" like 40 packages
<10> now if I do apt-get upgrade it's trying to downgrade packages?
<10> how can I undo this package issue :(!
<1> javiolo: either recover or e2undel , but it's a losing proposition unless you unmount the affected partition almost immediately
<5> heh
<1> kristopher: could you paste the changes apt wants to make?
<8> nickrud its just for testing I heard about shred a tool to delete files securely
<8> and want to try to recover random files
<10> nickrud, IRC won't let me paste that much
<1> kristopher: on a pastebin of course
<2> !tell kristopher about paste
<10> oh, sorry, ok
<11> any way to kill a process that doesn't want to be killed ?
<12> zezu: killall ?
<11> mplayer is stuck .. a few instances of it
<13> javiolo: kGPG (or PGP) comes with a Shredder Utility.
<14> zezu: sudo killall -9 <procid>
<10> Okay, I'm pasting
<15> anyone know if there's any compatibility issues with ubuntu and this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1696315 ?
<14> zezu: oops, sudo kill -9 <procid>
<1> zezu: killall <process> and if that doesn't work killall -9 <process> and if that doesn't work
<12> bimberi: you don't have to do pid, you can just do killall <name of process>
<8> steven_ didnt find shred available on apt-get
<10> here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9885
<13> Not on Apt Get, but in the Add Applications, it's there.
<13> the KPGP
<14> hatake_kakashi: which always worries me, there might be others you want to keep (eg. nautilus)
<13> You have to enable the repository though.
<12> bimberi: well I doubt killall <name of pid> would recursively kill any other process in that tree
<2> kristopher, what are you trying to do?
<8> steven ok but why pgp comes with shred ?
<14> hatake_kakashi: no, you misunderstand, but nvm
<10> chuckyp: nothing, I want to keep all these packages AS THEY ARE
<16> I can't figure out what to google to get instructions for mounting a file as a filesystem
<1> kristopher: that's not saying it wants to remove anything, just not update some things: 31 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 390 not upgraded
<5> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94370&highlight=wu830g <---------is there a way to fix this or use this adapter
<10> chuckyp: I did $sudo apt-get install dbus and it freaked out
<5> ?
<2> kristopher, did you change your sources.list or something?
<11> kill -9 worked thanks
<12> khafra: mounting exactly what?
<10> *631 upgraded*
<17> command
<1> kristopher: yeah, a lousy cut & paste
<10> nickrud: sorry
<2> khafra, you trying to mount an iso?
<16> hatake_kakashi: Like, say I wanna make a file, var; and mount it as /var
<17> mount -t filesiste, /dev/xx /xxxx
<10> what's bad about my paste?
<1> kristopher: but chuckyp's question is a good one
<16> chuckyp: Iike that, but from scratch
<16> crarsflow: filesiste?
<10> chuckyp: no, I just did apt-get install dbus
<2> khafra, wellyou could make an iso out of a file the mount it.
<10> (oh, i've added sources.list in the past)
<18> can anyone point me in the direction on some information as to what programs are available (and how similar they are), and all such related things i desire to know in order to decide if i can make the switch from a windows based pc to ubuntu?
<17> sistem
<16> chuckyp: But I wanna do my own choice of fs on it
<12> khafra: huh, I know you can mount from directory a to directory b and there are files that are like loop files which uses iso9660 along with cloop (if need be) for mounting
<19> anyone know a gtk based music player that can work with gnome-vfs (samba) files?
<1> kristopher: I'd trust apt. I've had screens that look like that, and nothing's getting downgraded.
<5> lol
<5> this is so nuts
<2> khafra, yeah then you mkisofs to whatever you want I would ***ume. Why are you doing this exactly?
<16> chuckyp: So I can have an encrypted filesystem of variable size, without sacrificing the performance I get from reiserfs on my main drives
<10> hmm
<20> bur[n]er: banshee? quod libet? muine?
<12> khafra: ahh you are trying to make an encrypted loop?
<10> i removed a line from my sources.list, and now no packages need updating
<1> kristopher: you could do apt-get --simulate
<16> hatake_kakashi: Guess so
<10> can apt-get break existing installs ?
<2> nickrud, he already knows what it will do.
<2> kristopher, what version of ubuntu are you running.
<10> 5.10 (Breezy?)
<1> chuckyp: that would tell what version of packages he'd be getting
<2> that is just goofy though I wonder why it is doing that?
<12> khafra: well, what I said could be a starting point for you to look for in order to make encrypted 'containers' for storage. However if you want to turn your whole OS into encrypted 'containers' and all, that would not be easy imo.
<2> khafra, did you do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install dbus?
<16> chuckyp: Nope, never heard of dbus
<10> <-- im the clueless dbus guy
<2> khafra, woops not ment foryou.
<16> hatake_kakashi: I don't want to put the whole os in, just a few programs and their data directories
<2> kristopher, ^^^^
<1> kristopher: not so clueless, you found your issue
<16> chuckyp: Good, that woulda been really confusing
<2> khafra, oh yea.
<5> anyone know about use networking
<10> chuckyp, I'm not sure which I did first
<5> err
<5> wireless usb networking rather
<10> but removing a line in my sources.list took the "new version of dbus" away
<1> kristopher: what was the line?
<2> khafra, I don't know that you could make and encrypted iso then mount it that would be tricky there probably is a better way of doing it. That way doesn't seem to make sense
<10> There are two lines I commented out:
<10> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
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